Nominee

VINOD (Querist) 15 November 2016 This query is : Resolved
I and my wife purchased a flat in navi mumbai and nominated our only son for our respective shares in the society. In 2012 my wife died and my son was taken in as a member after applying as per appendix 15 and also furnishing documents like affidavit and indemnity bond. my son's name was put on the share certificate as a nominee member. I was told my son can become a joint owner only when we get a heirship certificate from the court. I applied for a heirhip certificate and got it from the court in both our names. during this period the commitee had changed. the new secretary says that name of the nominee should not appear on the share certificate hence this share certificate will have to be torn and a fresh one will be issued. going by bye law no 34 the society is bound to transfer the shares to nominee. i would like to know how the society can transfer the shares to the nominee unless they put the nominee's name on the share certificate. If the previous committee was right in its implementation what should be done now ?. A detailed procedure would be very helpful.

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Kumar Doab (Expert) 15 November 2016
"the new secretary says"

Has he said or written?

"my son was taken in as a member...................society is bound to transfer the shares to nominee. "

He is a member now and not a nominee.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 15 November 2016
You have posted many threads.

LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal resolved your queries with his precise advise.

You were to get in touch with him as per:

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Legal-heir-621341.asp

Have you discussed with Mr. Hemant Agarwal?

He is at your location.

If yes, your query would have been resolved.

You can benefit from his advise.

VINOD (Querist) 15 November 2016
yes sir i have posted many threads and i may post a few more till my problems do not become manageable. please do not take this as an offence. i still do not get my answers. i had asked will my son's name appear on the share certificate after the society takes him as a member while he is a nominee.second when i obtain heirship certificate from the court what will be the procedure thereon.you are right mr hemant agarwal gave his advice in my last thread which helped me in getting my heirship certificate and am expecting a reply from him as its quite detailed and helpful. his site is not working. nevertheless thank you so much for your kind reply.

Guest (Expert) 16 November 2016
Repeated query with conflicting facts with following links:

Repeated query:

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Heirship-certificate-617681.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Heirship-certificate-578991.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Heirship-certificate-577981.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Legal-heirship-certificate-581541.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Heirship-certificate-582521.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Heirship-certificate-617421.asp

http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Legal-heir-621341.asp

13DAYS EARLIER, YOU STATED AS FOLLOWS:

"my son is a nominee in my chs in navi mumbai. I APPLIED FOR HEIRSHIP CERTIFICATE from the court WHICH WAS GRANTED. my son will now be taken as a joint owner in place of my wife who was a joint owner with me and died in 2012. my society is demanding 25000/- to take my son as a joint owner. my question is, this is not a case of transfer but is a case of transmission. do i still have to pay 25k as demanded ? is there a rule in mcs act? pls advise."

YOUR TODAY'S QUERY STATES AS FOLLOWS:

"I and my wife purchased a flat in navi mumbai and nominated our only son for our respective shares in the society. In 2012 my wife died and my son was taken in as a member after applying as per appendix 15 and also furnishing documents like affidavit and indemnity bond. my son's name was put on the share certificate as a nominee member. I was told my son can become a joint owner only when we get a heirship certificate from the court. I APPLIED for a heirhip certificate and GOT IT from the court IN BOTH OUR NAMES. during this period the commitee had changed. the new secretary says that name of the nominee should not appear on the share certificate hence this share certificate will have to be torn and a fresh one will be issued. going by bye law no 34 the society is bound to transfer the shares to nominee. i would like to know how the society can transfer the shares to the nominee unless they put the nominee's name on the share certificate. If the previous committee was right in its implementation what should be done now ?. A detailed procedure would be very helpful."

YOU MAY BETTER COME FORWARD WITH THE EXACT FACTS IN A CONSOLIDATED STATEMENT, IF YOU DESIRE SOME PURPOSEFUL OPINION OF THE MEMBERS, OR YOU MAY GET ADVICE OF SOME LOCAL LAWYERS BY DISCUSSING THE REAL FACTS ON SHOWING YOUR DOCUMENTS INCLUDING SHARE CERTIFICATES.

THERE IS NO USE FOR CREATING MULTIPLE THREADS WITH CONFLICTING FACTS.

P. Venu (Expert) 16 November 2016
Perhaps, highlighting the precise issue you are facing would lead to a meaningful and helpful suggestion.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 16 November 2016
You saved many thousand rupees with precise advise of LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal in thread mentioned in previous post.

All of your issues can be addressed by the expert specializing in such issues.

You need to share full facts.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 16 November 2016
If not satisfied with the replies in this section, should contact local lawyer for detailed discussion / guidance.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 16 November 2016
YOu could have sent PM to LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal and/or established contact by contact details in his profile.

By now you would have known what exactly is the issue and what exactly is to be done.

Spend quality time to get your issues addressed.

Guest (Expert) 16 November 2016
I endorse advice of Shri Rajendra K Goyal.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 16 November 2016
You saved many thousand rupees with precise advise of LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal in thread mentioned in previous post.

All of your issues can be addressed by the expert specializing in such issues.

LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal is at your location.He specializes in such issues.

Ms.Usha Kapoor (Expert) 17 November 2016
I CONCUR WITH RAJENDRA GOYAL.

VINOD (Querist) 18 November 2016
sir
i have given all facts but my query still lies unanswered.i will appreciate if someone can help with an answer that actually helps me instead of referring to threads posted earlier.my posts are not binding on anyone for a reply. pls reply only if you wish to help. no offence to anyone

Guest (Expert) 18 November 2016
Mr. Vinod,

Your conflicting descriptions do not corroborate your statement, "i have given all facts but my query still lies unanswered"

I have already suggested you, "YOU MAY BETTER COME FORWARD WITH THE EXACT FACTS IN A CONSOLIDATED STATEMENT, IF YOU DESIRE SOME PURPOSEFUL OPINION OF THE MEMBERS, OR YOU MAY GET ADVICE OF SOME LOCAL LAWYERS BY DISCUSSING THE REAL FACTS ON SHOWING YOUR DOCUMENTS INCLUDING SHARE CERTIFICATES."

Kumar Doab (Expert) 18 November 2016
All of your issues can be addressed by the expert specializing in such issues.

LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal is at your location.He specializes in such issues.

He has already addressed your issues.

By now you could have discussed with him.

VINOD (Querist) 18 November 2016
sir,

i guess you do not have the answers i seek. could you please let me know how to contact mr Hemant Agarwal ? pls do not refer to earlier posts as i have tried his site.

Guest (Expert) 19 November 2016
Mr. Vinod,

Your guess seems to be correct, as you said, "i guess you do not have the answers i seek. could you please let me know how to contact mr Hemant Agarwal?" As has already been observed also, seemingly, the recommending fellow, instead of rendering legal advice, mostly does the job of directing the querists either to some other experts or ask them to contact some ablest counsel to get the problem solved.

You may however find contact particulars of Shri Hemant Agrawal from his profile, which are as follows:

Phone : 9820174108, 9869510304
Email : ha21@rediffmail.com

Kumar Doab (Expert) 19 November 2016
Mr. Vinod,

Your guesses apart, it was expected that you can yourself log onto and find contact details and send PM.

You will always be asked to contact local experts and if available names shall be shared.

Your all threads have been responded with proper advise.

Mr. Hemant Agarwal has indeed contributed with his advise and helped you to save lot of money.

Had you contacted you would have resolved your queries without wasting much time and efforts.

In future also yuo can benefit from his advise.

Rest the commenting fellow is in the bad habit of posting unwarranted comments despite he has been cautioned endless number of times to post his comment and leave.He has been posting erroneous and erratic advise for the querist/authors and readers.

You are at liberty to log onot his profile and check all threads in Forum/experts section.

He has been asking authors and querist to write to him to seek appointment and pay consultation.

He is not at your location.

Guest (Expert) 19 November 2016
Dear Vinod,

In addition, I may point out that if the said name-sake expert has told you that "You saved many thousand rupees with precise advise of LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal in thread mentioned in previous post," you would be justified to ask him how he made you save thousands of rupees.

It is only you who can know whether you saved some amount or not. How any body else can know?

From that very statement of the said expert, you can very well judge, to which extent he can make exaggerated statements.

Although he is in the habit of making multiple posts in reply to a single query, but you can find in almost about 95% posts you can find nothing except vagaries of his statements, which are least concerned with the problems posted by the querist members.

Anyway, best of luck, if you can gain anything or save any amount out of his posts.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 19 November 2016
Author@ Vinod and all readers,

The intolerable and abusive person above, has littered and is littering nuisance in threads despite having been asked,prohibited,cautioned.

All readers may go thru his post in threads that can be accessed in his profile, under Forum/Experts sections.

He is frustrated to that extent that his wits are addled.

He has made NO contribution in the threads of the author and for sure Mr. Hemant Agarwal has provided precise advise.

All threads of author have been addressed.

He is NOONE and NOBODY to ask who posted what and why!

He is NOONE and NOBODY to comment on anyone.

He has been posting FALTOO Posts.

He is cautioned again to shut up.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 19 November 2016
Author@ Vinod,

I am not sure why you have been posting about website not functioning.

However if only if you are looking for Free Legal Aid then an expert of LCI provided it:

Samarpan (M)9599874404
F-29, Shankar Market, Connaught Place, New Delhi.

The expert is at new Delhi and if anyone want to visit in person then the person in Delhi/New Delhi /Noida/Gurgaon/NCR etc etc can try by approaching the expert.

The expert also provides consultation by phone and contact details have been posted.

It is reiterated that in matters where state laws are involved in particular local counsel specializing in that particular field can provide the best advise.

Online discussions have its won limitations and your own able counsel specializing in that particular field can provide the best advise.

Guest (Expert) 20 November 2016
Seems to be merely a businessman doing merely agency functions, instead of a professional to provide legal advice, when not made clear, HOW THE AUTHOR SAVED THOUSANDS OF RUPEES, AS PER HIS STATEMENT, "You saved many thousand rupees with precise advise of LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal in thread mentioned in previous post."

Kumar Doab (Expert) 20 November 2016
Left with NO other option this person @ P.S.Dhingra is hellbent on posting his FALTOO posts and continue to liter nuisance at a public forum, as it is die hard habit, as per his own admission.

He has not posted a single meaningful in any of the threads of the author.

He has miserably failed to attract the author to him and his agency or so called consultancy.

No payment hence big frustration, hence new unfounded and unwarranted allegations of business on others.

Guest (Expert) 20 November 2016
Mr. Doab,

It is good to continue with demonstrating with your heart burning and frustration, as that may help to some extent to avoid blood pressure, if not fully.

You are welcome to continue.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 20 November 2016
Mr. Dhingra,

On the contrary it is foul smell of your own rotten heart and brain that is littering the threads and forum.

You can live with the stench and that is only thing you want to prove.

However we are convinced and need NO further evidence SO you will at once stop making any more personal comments and leave.

Take care of your own health and visit your own physician and a psychiatrist in a reputed institute at your location and take your medicines.

My health has been and is perfectly alright and I am fit.

I have been enjoying my life and association with LCI.

You are the only disturbance and distractions for everyone.

I get lots and lost of appreciations for posting highly illustrated threads and for providing clear views on rules,conditions,enactments,citations, judgments..............

You have been asked to leave in all threads.

Now Leave.

Guest (Expert) 20 November 2016
Mr. Doab,

You are again welcome to continue with your evasive and foul language posts.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 20 November 2016
You are fully wrong in your last post as well.

You are lone and alone that does not understand that you are no more welcome.

The sole and sufficient reasons have been explained to you.

Your sickening comments and approach and conduct has been objected upon, time and again still you have not shed any of your habit of abuse.

You have not spared anyone.

You are sole person whose conduct, language is beyond any definition of anything leave apart foul.

Had it anyone else::: he/she would reformed.

You are sole and alone at LCI that claim like a adamant and recalcitrant person that ;;;Old habits Die hard.

Stay away from us.

Don't come near us.

Don't address us.

Don't interfere with us.

Your itch and ache is your problem.

You are NOONE and NOBODY to ask any justification from anyone...............that is precisely what you need to store in your head and...............hammer and nail.................so that it remains there and doesn't leave you, again.

Scratch yourself in some other forum or in your private fiefdom e.g; where you reside........................

Guest (Expert) 20 November 2016
Mr. Doab,

You are welcome again to express your irritation, frustration, jealousy and vague plea, which is quite evident from your requests, like --

"Stay away from us."
"Don't come near us."
"Don't address us."
"Don't interfere with us."

Frustration is also evident, when you found unable to justify, how the author saved thousands of rupees, first recommending the name of Shri Hemant Agarwal, then recommending other firm, "Samarpan," as if he lost confidence in the capability of Shri Hemant Agarwal.

By the way, now how much the author can save by consulting M/s "Samarpan"?

Kumar Doab (Expert) 20 November 2016
The author has been provided with precise,just,proper advise.........................by everyone other than you.

If you want to travel to location of author and advise him FREE or charge him, you may do so and stay away from us.

You are NONONE and NOBODY to certify or object...................to anything or anyone.

He can save himself all the trouble and all the money by avoiding you..................and staying away from you.................or ask anything.

YOU:::::"Stay away from us." "Don't come near us." "Don't address us." "Don't interfere with us."

If he approaches experts Mr. Hemant Agarwal, Mr. Samparan.................they shall do the needful.

You need not bother.

If he approaches anyone else, he shall do the needful.

You need not bother.

Your jealousy, frustrations, itch and ache is your problem.

You are NOONE and NOBODY to ask any justification from anyone...............that is precisely what you need to store in your head and...............hammer and nail.................so that it remains there and doesn't leave you, again.

Scratch yourself in some other forum or in your private fiefdom e.g; where you reside........................

NOW LEAVE!

Guest (Expert) 21 November 2016
Mr. Doab,

You are welcome again with your expression of utter frustration and irritation.

I am happy to note that unwittingly you expose yourself by expressing your frustration, irritation and false claims

You have stated, "The author has been provided with precise,just,proper advise.........................by everyone other than you, " BUT NOT BY YOU, EXCEPT YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT "YOUR QUERY WOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED' IF DISCUSSED WITH ....."

Your assumption and false statement was confirmed from the statement of the author, "i guess you do not have the answers i seek." SO, HOW DO YOU CLAIM THAT YOU PROVIDED HIM WITH ANY ADVICE, WHEN THE AUTHOR HIMSELF IS DISSATISFIED WITH YOUR ADVICE TO CONTACT SOMEONE ELSE?

Even after two days of your assumption, the author distrusted you by stating, "i have given all facts but my query still lies unanswered.i will appreciate if someone can help with an answer that actually helps me instead of referring to threads posted earlier.my posts are not binding on anyone for a reply. pls reply only if you wish to help. no offence to anyone."

YOUR UTTER FRUSTRATION AND IRRITATION IS VINDICATED VERY MUCH, WHEN YOU REPEATED YOUR WORDS AGAIN, "YOU:::::"Stay away from us." "Don't come near us." "Don't address us." "Don't interfere with us." NOT ONLY THAT YOUR HIDDEN ABUSE FOR ME WITH YOUR EXPRESSION, "YOU:::::" CLEARLY STATE ABOUT THE STATE OF YOUR SICK MIND, otherwise, where was the need to show "::::" if not abused me.

The question arises, when you don't understand anything about the law of nomination, why did you intentionally misled and misguided the querist?

Anyway, you are quite free to continue to vindicate your utter frustration and irritation.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 21 November 2016
Mr. Dhingra,

Your acute and chronic and 'Die Hard' habit as in your own words shall not go and your last post is a testimony to it.

You have badly failed hence your on hallucinations are being typed your fingers.

The many threads posted by author have been addressed.

YOU have not been able to understand the issue at all and have been asking the author to write again.

The your mind is clogged by your own problems with your own persona and your vision is clouded with your own terminology like academic query......

You have ignored although you have understood that author is looking for FREE advise at the forum that is why he is writing again and again that Blog/site of Mr. Hemant Agarwal is not working.

The author must have read your advertisements in threads at LCI asking the authors/querist::: to call you for appointment or send email for appointment and pay consultation FEE.

If you have asked the author anything by PM's then you are liberty to share.

If you have conveyed to author that you are coming to his location at your expenses then you are liberty to share.

It is you that has not been able to understand and post with understanding in any Forum.

I have been posting detailed post in threads on Nomination.

Your hollow mind and blank knowledge cloud by your hatred, jealously that too at very old age has not allowed you to mellow down with time.

You are misleading others and more so yourself.

You have decided to be of your age.

YOU have been asked to LEAVE.

NO More posts by you and shut up.

NOW LEAVE.

Guest (Expert) 22 November 2016
Mr. Doab,

You are welcome again with expression of your irritation, frustration, long statement full of bluffs and presumptions nothing more.

You stated, "author is looking for FREE advise," but in the name of free advice you must not fill up his thread with mere junk ideas of yours, like consult some other expert, then another expert, then search from other threads, etc.

I have observed that you presume too much, like "If you have asked the author anything by PM's then you are liberty to share." AND "If you have conveyed to author that you are coming to his location at your expenses then you are liberty to share."

The question arises, WHY NOT ASK THE AUTHOR HIMSELF, IF I MADE ANY PM TO HIM OR TO REACH HIS LOCATION. BEST OF LUCK, IF HE CONFIRMS AND POSTS THE EXTRACTS OF MY PMs TO FULFILL YOUR CHERISHED DESIRE TO VAINLY PROVE YOU CORRECT.

About your statement, "The author must have read your advertisements in threads at LCI asking the authors/querist::: to call you for appointment or send email for appointment and pay consultation FEE," the author need not read any ad about me. He can read your posts that make advertise about me. And thanks about your ads for me.

Now, in this thread also, besides your extreme irritation, you have again screamed and harped on the same tune, "No More posts by you and SHUT UP (an abuse with your extreme irritation and heart pain)," ...... "NOW LEAVE."

But where you have left the way to leave, when you continue with your extremely false and highly evasive statements? You can expect me leave, when you shun bluffing the readers with no more venominous posts on your part.

I know, as of habit, you would definitely continue to pour more venom on this post, instead of making room to leave, as per your repeated screams in other threads also.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 22 November 2016
It has already been made known to you that you are exhausted with your limited words in your vocabulary, hence your trademark repetitions and show and TAMASHA of arrogance.

You have been asked and prohibited to post any personal comments about anyone time and again.

It is your die hard habit that you have advertised in your posts and readers/members/querist/authors/experts all are aware of it.

You do nothing but argue, endlessly, more so when you fail and even more so when you misbehave and abuse...............than repenting and apologizing.

You are a risk.

Future readers shall also be aware of it.

You are grossly wrong to presume that you

You are grossly failed, although you have screaming:::::since you know that you are spiteful::::and and it has been made known to you:::::by refreshing your memory.

It is you who posted jumped to post your venomous comments about me, and you wrote my name and your comments with yur own hands and your own eyes:::after the very first post by querist......................in endless number of threads.

You have been reminded again and again that :::None was born yesterday.

You have not apologized/regretted/felt sorry even once.

Your posts are not at all anything original but imitations and Nakal............nothing else and you have made known it to all readers that you don't have even basic knowledge.

You are a pretender.

Your pretensions shall not convince anyone.

You do not possess even basic knowledge and have been making erratic and erroneous advises.

YOU have been evading to feel SORRY and admit.

There are many sensible, learned experts that shall take care of the query of authors/querists/members/readers.....................and this forum shall be rid of your nuisance and abuse.

You have been shamelessly doing YOUR trademark TAMASHA in threads...................and if you note you have started stuttering.

Your observation full of malice, and sickening comments are written by you and noone else.

Stalking and abusing in all threads is old die hard habit..

Had it been anyone other than you would have stopped and left by now.

Scratch yourself in some other forum or in your private fiefdom e.g; where you reside........................

NOW LEAVE.

Guest (Expert) 23 November 2016
Your heart burning with irritation and frustration, as revealed from your repeated posts, may be giving pleasure to the readers.

About your statement, "Your pretensions shall not convince anyone," I am not pretending, rather, pretension is clearly revealed from your own reply, when you stated, "You saved many thousand rupees with precise advise of LCI expert Mr. Hemant Agarwal in thread mentioned in previous post, but not proved even on specific request, how the author saved thousands of rupees.

Your pretension is further proved, when the author himself has declared, "i guess you do not have the answers i seek. could you please let me know how to contact mr Hemant Agarwal ? pls do not refer to earlier posts as i have tried his site."

SO, WHY DO YOU MAKE UNWARRANTED AND VAGUE PRETENSIONS?

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