What are the main reasons that lawyers lose cases of clients
Guest
(Querist) 30 July 2017
This query is : Resolved
At most of the times, clients have genuine grounds of injustice having been made towards them by the authorities, but still they lose their cases.
What can be the major causes of the lawyers of the clients lose their cases in spite of genuine grievances of the clients but are not able to get justice?
Hope lawyers/experts would like to render their views sincerely and honestly.
Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
" Consent of Court" is one of the major factor .No one could predict the Judgement irrespective of the merits of the case. No one to be blamed for it and Appeal would be the only Remedy..Stop accusing the advocates for it and better go for the next option like appeal to seek the remedy
Hemant Agarwal
(Expert) 30 July 2017
1. FIRSTLY, & PRIMARILY, it is the "penny-pinching" and "over-smart" and the "non-sincere and non-honest" attitude of the Clients, that "some" cases are lost.
2. SECONDLY, personally I hardly lose any case that I accept. OBVIOUSLY, one side will lose and the other side will win.
3. THIRDLY, "IF" lawyers are not "sincere & honest", "THEN" do not use their services and the Client can appear in-Person and win his case with complete "sincerity and honesty". Why blame all lawyers.
4. FOURTHLY, the "queriest" here may ask questions to their specific legal problems and not initiate Philosophy and worthless topics.
INCIDENTALLY: JIGYASU and Querist, mean the same in Hindi verses English.
Keep Smiling .... Hemant Agarwal
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Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
. Instead of simply accusing all the advocates in general he should particularly pinpoint the particular advocate and his misdeeds if any.In mumbai there are so many big hospitals equivalent to seven star hotels and ordinary inexpensive hospitals also.As far as the medical treatment it would be the same but only the other facilities would be more.No hospital or No doctor would assure the success in treatment and similarly no advocate could assure the result of the case.It always lies only with the Consent of Court. Like how a doctor can not be blamed for the result of the Treatment an advocate can not be blamed for the result.Either you could have food in 5 star hotel or any ordinary hotel it is up to you .Do not simply disgrace and degrade the lawyers to spend your useless time.It is my responsibility to advise or even to legally warn you not to defame the advocates or the advocates profession as Senior State Vice President of All India Dr.Ambedkar Advocates Association -Madras High Court Tamilnadu 99674 76751/944440 36927
Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
Adv.Mr.Yogen Kakade could be kind enough to explain how a PIL could be filed here by whom with what justifiable reason/grounds and against whom/ the other side please
Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
Any Normal Complaint against Advocates with justifiable grounds to be made only with concerned State Bar Council only.
Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
Not succeeding in a Case doesn't amount to any Complaint
Guest
(Expert) 30 July 2017
For eg If one Crore cases were completed/closed there would be atleast 99 lakhs of advocates who had not succeeded
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 July 2017
Mr. Hemant Agarwal is concise and precise.
Fully agreed.
Guest
(Querist) 30 July 2017
@ Hemant Agarwal
I am in total disagreement with you. While in the first point you have accused only the layman litigant by labeling him with "penny-pinching" and "over-smart" and the "non-sincere and non-honest" attitude of the Clients. If a lawyer finds his client "penny-pinching," "over-smart" and the "non-sincere and non-honest" attitude, that does not give license to the lawyer to lose his case on any such ground. The lawyer can well refuse to take his case at the very initial stage, if he finds the client as such as per your description.
In 2nd sentence you have just talked about your own cases, not any reason. In third sentence you have also not mentioned any reason for losing. About your plea, ""IF" lawyers are not "sincere & honest", "THEN" do not use their services," I don't think there is any yardstick for the client to judge about the sincerity and honesty of the lawyer on his one or two initial meetings, when he signs attorney with the lawyer. He can only know about the sincerity and honesty of the lawyer on presentation of his case during trial proceedings.
Fourthly, If you did not like my asking such a vital question, I don't think I have put any compulsion for any one of the experts to respond to my query. Any person, who got annoyed by my question would was quite free not to respond to my query.
Guest
(Querist) 30 July 2017
Narasimha ji,
I have not made allegation, but have asked the reasons for losing the cases of the clients, when the lawyers fail. Your example of doctors does not seem to be justified. I am of the view, lawyer's and doctor's profession cannot be compared with each other.
Guest
(Querist) 30 July 2017
Kakde ji,
Are you sure that judgment on filing a PIL would spell out the major causes of the lawyers of the clients about losing their cases in spite of genuine grievances?
Guest
(Expert) 31 July 2017
In your profile you had humbly pronounced you are more intelligent and extra ordinary than any other Lawyers.Then why to waste your precious time here
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Narasimha ji,
Twisting of facts may not bring any credit to you, rather can be harmful to your own dignity and status. Your post, "In your profile you had humbly pronounced you are more intelligent and extra ordinary than any other Lawyers," clearly reveals that you have tried to twist the facts of my own profile. NOWHERE I have claimed to be "more intelligent and extra ordinary than any other Lawyers." You may better try to recheck to re-interpret the wording used by me, which says, "I MAY BE knowing." That does not mean "I AM." Judgment rests on the readers of my views, whether I know something more or less than some well qualified and experienced lawyers.
However, if you believe yourself to be one out of those lawyers from whom I may be more knowledgeable, that can bestow a credit on me only, not on you in any way. In other words, you have owned discredit by yourself!
Further, if I have wasted my time, answers of experts to my query can become helpful to many sufferers and genuine and trustworthy lawyers to plug such loopholes on account of which they may be losing cases in spite of their being the genuinely aggrieved persons.
Hemant Agarwal
(Expert) 31 July 2017
JIGYASU (querist):
1. FIRSTLY, whether you "agree" .OR. "disagree" with me, is of no consequences to me. I am least bothered for ANY person to "agree" .OR. "disagree" with me.
2. SECONDLY, it seems that you have a chronic habit of being "argumentative". This probably could happen when ignorant mothers get hyper-excited when their children non-stop carry on the chit-chattering nuisance, the entire day. Unconsciously this becomes a chronic habit at mature age and causes blah....blah....blah....blah and sometimes leads to Alzheimer.
3. THIRDLY, you seem to hallucinate and have extra-ordinarily high expectations from Lawyers or other people around you. Grossly immature and childish. Cravings and A.D.D. Try to stop eating spicy and factory processed foods, which in turn helps in overcoming such problems.
4. FOURTHLY, when you put up a "query" (philosophical) THEN a prudent expert here, feels dutifully responsible to answer the same. You probably hallucinate as a "Jack of all trades, master of none" and probably looking for "justifications & reasoning's" for your own failures. A clinical psychologist could help overcome the hallucination.
Note: IF you do not like to read my answer, THEN you can simply and safely flush it down the sewage drain.
Keep Smiling .... Hemant Agarwal
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Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Hemant ji,
Although you have stated that you are " least bothered for ANY person to "agree" .OR. "disagree", but your post becomes an open secret that you get bothered and disturbed too much by my disagreement with your earlier plea.
Your reply further reveals as if I have touched some of your sensitive nerve, which you mind. I don't mind, if the reasons are your own secrets and you don't want to reveal.
Being argumentative is the profession of lawyers that you cannot deny. You can't deny that arguments are the life line of lawyer in his profession. If you don't resort to that, I can further disagree on your earlier claim that you hardly lose any case.
Hemant Agarwal
(Expert) 31 July 2017
1. Kindly prefer to urgently see a Clinical Psychologist and "THEN" come back here.
2. You are once again under "deep hallucination" that Lawyers are "argumentative". Lawyers, who argu do not win cases and they stand outside the court gates.
3. Lawyers should have reasoning and justification capability and NOT argumentative capability.
4. I had suggested to you to "Try to stop eating spicy and factory processed foods, which in turn helps in overcoming such problems". TRY and see if it works in your case. Also try fasting, for a few days. It might improve the Capacity & Capability and the chronic hallucinations.
Keep Smiling .... Hemant Agarwal
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Guest
(Expert) 31 July 2017
Very much agree with the Last post by Senior Shri Hemant Agarwal..From my side I prefer to advise meeting the psychiatrist earlier would be better
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Hemant Agarwal ji,
You have advised me to keep smiling. I have really smiled on your angry mood and unwarranted presumptions that has been depicted from your reply to my last post.
Your latest post really makes me feel, as if I have really touched some of your sensitive nerve that pinched you very much.
A person needing to see clinical psychologist, do not ask such type of deep questions that others, like you feel as if their secrets are going to be out if replied such questions.
Further, your assumption, as if eating spicy and factory processed food is my routine, is really a sort of your own hallucination, whereas you have alleged me to be hallucinated. Of course that filled me with smile at your thinking. For your information, I am quite a simple person eating very simple NON-spicy food each day. Even much less salt is used in my food. Even a smallest part of a normal chilly powder is not used in my food. I do not bring any factory processed food at home, I do not also go out for meals in restaurants.
You can make presumptions in your clients' cases, but not about me and my life styles.
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Narasimha ji,
I wish both Shri Agrawal and you accompany me to the clinic of a psychiatrist and see by yourself, who is declared what by the psychiatrist.
Guest
(Expert) 31 July 2017
Hope your family members who knows the facts would obviously take care
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Narasimha ji,
In that case, how both of you would get satisfied as to who need help from some psychiatrist? You need not worry about my family, they are taking my care pretty well.
Of course one thing I could observe well is that both of you lack sportsman spirit, as you do not like to share your experience on the issue.
Guest
(Expert) 31 July 2017
Then All the Best.Continue with the medicines perfectly.
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Your advice is misdirected. colleague deserves that advice, when he lost his temper while replying my questions.
Guest
(Expert) 31 July 2017
No further replies while your treatment is going on.Take care bye bye
Guest
(Querist) 31 July 2017
Best of luck for both of you, if you can take care to maintain your health by taking some specialist's treatment.
Rajendra K Goyal
(Expert) 01 August 2017
Academic query.
State material facts of the problem if any.
How are you concerned / related with the query?
Looks like examination question.
May post your academic query in forum section.
Guest
(Querist) 01 August 2017
Mr. Rajendra K Goyal,
If unable to throw any light on the reasons of your failure in the cases of your clients, rest assured, I do not have any intention to compel you to reply, even if that be related to any problem of mine.
Even if that would have any relation with any of my problem, I was fully comfortable and capable to judge about the reasons of failure of my own lawyer. No case to case basis material facts are required to know the reasons of failure of different lawyers in their cases. Only they can tell their own woes, not even you. Only you can tell about your cases, if you know or like to tell.
By the way, what offense I have committed if I have posted my query in the Experts section and why you feel offended for that? If you are sure, you have won 100% cases and have not lost even a single case, the question was not at all meant for you to reply. But be sure that you have won 100% court cases so far.
