Facts
abhimanyu
(Querist) 14 August 2013
This query is : Resolved
The Plaintiff wants to inform some new facts to the court with a prayer to order defendant to produce documents before the court. What is the procedure for that.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 14 August 2013
The plaintiff will have to first pray for amendment of plaint.
R.K Nanda
(Expert) 14 August 2013
join senior lawyer as every one wants to know the procedure of all legal steps.then what lawyers will do .
abhimanyu
(Querist) 14 August 2013
Barman Sir, the fact to be informed to the court has existed just now. Plaint was filed in 2011.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 14 August 2013
Nanda Sir, Kindly oblige by telling at least relevant Section of cpc.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 14 August 2013
abhimanyu is a name boycotted by Mr.Shroff
and also that you always put academic professional queries.Change of AVATAR can not work unless you seek and Mr. Shroff pardons you.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 14 August 2013
is it???..then I would avoid replying academic query which I regularly do.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 14 August 2013
Respected Prabhakar Sir,
I am sure Respected Shroff Sir cannot bycott
me. I would also need your kind recommendation to Respected Shroff to pardon me, if I have committed any mistake. The present AVATOR needs blessings of all experts please.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 14 August 2013
Respected Barman Sir,
My query is not academic please. Moreover, please appreciate what I will get by raising above query from academic point of view.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 15 August 2013
May be but we here on principle does not reply academic query.
It is really surprising that you being law student does not know the very basis provision for amendment of pleading.
Concentrate more in your studies.
Guest
(Expert) 15 August 2013
A plea of a law student, "the present AVATOR needs blessings of all experts please, wonders me if change of avatar can change his habits also.
I feel, after he completes his law course, he would prefer to start and continue with practice only by asking others to help even in general matters instead of devoting in his studies in law. If that is there, I wonder to guess, what will be the fate of his clients?
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
At the outset, I wish to clarify that I am not an LL.B. student and have no intentions of starting practice.
Shri P.S. DHingra has commented as below about me:
" A plea of a law student, "the present AVATOR needs blessings of all experts please, wonders me if change of avatar can change his habits also.
I feel, after he completes his law course, he would prefer to start and continue with practice only by asking others to help even in general matters instead of devoting in his studies in law. If that is there, I wonder to guess, what will be the fate of his clients?"
I AM WAITING FOR RESPONSE OF OTHER EXPERTS TO ABOVE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST ME OF SHRI DHINGRA, who is in the habbit of posting provoking comments against me without any reason.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 15 August 2013
After reading your statement that reads in your own words"At the outset, I wish to clarify that I am not an LL.B. student and have no intentions of starting practice."
THEN WHY YOU PUT SEVERAL QUERIES HERE?
THIS ASPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ANY OTHER ASPECT.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Respected Shri Prabhakar Ji,
Your query is "THEN WHY YOU PUT SEVERAL QUERIES HERE?" if I am not an LL.B. student.
Further you say "THIS ASPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ANY OTHER ASPECT"
It means several queries can be asked by LL.B. people only.
PLEASE LET THIS MATTER BE SEEN BY EXPERTS OBJECTIVELY.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 15 August 2013
Dear Author
I hope you could understand that your academic queries are not welcome here.
Please appreciate this aspect and close further discussion here.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 15 August 2013
I would not welcome a query from an author who is not posed with a problem.
i have been answering you under a mistake of fact that you are a practitioner which you are not then you can not be expected to face those very several problems of law in ordinary life,that too on daily basis.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 15 August 2013
There was a typo- ' not' was left missing.
Guest
(Expert) 15 August 2013
Mr. Abhimanyu is welcome to quote, if he has posted any query, except academic queries so far after his registration with the LCI.
He is in the habit of posting only academic queries but prefers either to issue directives to experts or blame them. He does not admit that his queries are of academic nature but also does not prefer intimate what concern he has with the problem.
So, it can be anyone's guess, if his changed avatar can change his habits of posting academic queries?
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Interestingly,I WAS WAITING FOR RESPONSE OF OTHER EXPERTS TO ABOVE DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST ME OF SHRI DHINGRA, who is in the habbit of posting provoking comments against me without any reason.
HOWEVER, result is as above.
In the past also, generally, experts have sided with their counterparts and labelled genuine queries as Academic queries. My side has not been taken in any case whenever SHRI DHINGRA and any other expert has attacked me. Yes, I forgot that Indian Public otherwise cannot respond to my call on this forum without being expert. Further, I should have understood why other experts will take my side against their counterpart.
It is reiterated that the queries put on this forum have not been academic queries but problems being faced some by me, some by my relatives and some in my friends' circle.
I NOW STRONGLY FEEL THAT LET THE TERM 'ACADEMIC QUERY' BE DEFINED BY THIS SITE SO THAT THIS WEAPON CAN BE USED BY EXPERTS APPROPRIATELY.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 15 August 2013
It is very simple to understand experts can not restrain you from dumping queries of any kind.had it been in their power you could have not succeeded after their first remark to post the other one too of a similar nature .
Likewise it is even more simple to understand querists can not put a desired answer into mouths of experts nor querists can compel experts to attend their queries as of necessity,it is so simple the very mechanism of the site or it's server.
Unless you get free from stigma of Mr. VR Shroff,do anything you would not be answered otherwise you were enjoying my favor.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 15 August 2013
I do not know why the author is still making post here which is of no good for him.
By this way you can not get your reply here.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Respected Prabhakar Sir,
I do not know how many times I will have to reiterate that my queries have not been academic, These have been problems practically being faced and in several of cases, I will not hesitate in sharing documents with any body. I cannot say more than this.
I know that I am enjoying favour of one of the top most experts like you and would not like to lose the same in future also. I am highly grateful to you for the same.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 15 August 2013
To stay with command on me you do need a pardon certificate of Mr.VR SHROFF ,i said.
Send him PM.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Respected Barman Sir,
Responses from experts like you only against my posts is injustice to me as my clarifications are in response to following unprovoked comments of Shri Dhingra against me:
" A plea of a law student, ......
I feel, after he completes his law course, he would prefer to start and continue with practice only by asking others to help even in general matters instead of devoting in his studies in law. If that is there, I wonder to guess, what will be the fate of his clients?"
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 15 August 2013
I asked you to stop the discussion right now. I hope you understand what we all are meaning to say.
But you still feign ignorance and keep making posts one after another.
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Respected Prabhakar and other Sirs,
The following was my query:
A society in Haryana was formed in 1999. Thereafter THE HARYANA REGISTRATION AND REGULATION OF SOCIETIES ACT, 2012 was passed Section 23 of which provides as follows
"A partnership firm, whether registered or not, or a body corporate of whatever description, shall not be eligible to be a member of a Society:
Provided that there shall not be any bar for a partner as defined in section 4 of the Indian Partnership Act, 1932 (Central Act 9 of 1932) or a member or share holder of a body corporate to become a member in his individual capacity."
The Society had three companies as its members.
Now what will happen to the Society."
WHILE REPLIES WERE GIVEN BY OTHER EXPERTS TO THE ABOVE, A RELATED QUERY GOT FOLLOWING RESPONSE FROM RESPECTED SHROFF
'Academic Query. Not your personal problem..
Lawyers do not make Laws. only interpret it.
We here cannot Law maker WHY why "what was the need of including "Proviso" in this Section by Haryana Government?
THIS SITE IS NOT FOR DISCUSSION.
PL GO TO FORUM FOR IT."
There were reactions of experts including Shri Dhingra and Shri Prabhakar after which I posted the following
"Respected experts,
I am extremely sorry and request that I may be excused. I have highest regard for all of you, Sirs."
HERE ALSO, MY QUERY WAS GENUINE AND IF REQUIRED, I CAN PROVIDE DOCUMENTS OF THE CONCERNED SOCIETY.
I, however, apologise and unconditionally seek pardon from Respected Shroff, Sir.
Guest
(Expert) 15 August 2013
Mr. Abhimanyu,
Your problem is that you can be caught with the help of your own contradictory posts. On one hand you reiterate that your queries "have not been academic queries", on the other you desire "LET THE TERM 'ACADEMIC QUERY' BE DEFINED."
The question arises, when you don't know the definition of academic query, on what ground you reiterate that your queries are not academic queries, as you want to know the definition of academic query. Otherwise, if you reiterate that your queries are not academic queries, being a learned person why don't you explain what according to you can be academic query and what not?
Further, the experts here intend to solve personal problems of individuals, not to hold tutorial classes for the persons like you to explain what is academic and what is non-academic query.
You may better see some standard dictionary to know the definition of the term academic.
Further, you state, "I will not hesitate in sharing documents with any body" but contrarily you are not ready even to state how you are concerned with the problems?
Still further, you have a complaint that "generally, experts have sided with their counterparts and labelled genuine queries as Academic queries. My side has not been taken in any case." The question arises when you are in the habit of issuing directives to the members not to reply your queries, , as if they are your paid servants to abide by your directions, but still want your query not only be replied but also they should compulsorily take your side when you are in the habit of posting baseless queries.
For example, even in your query about cooperative societies under the caption, "Members" your strong directive, may be addressed to Shri Shroff, was for all other members also, which clearly states as, "this is an interactive platform for Indian public and LAWYERS AND THOSE who do not wish to interact can VERY WELL AVOID IT instead of forcing their view point on others and marking the query as Academic."
IN FACT, YOU TRY TO IMPOSE YOUR WISHES ON ALL THE MEMBERS. CAN YOU STATE WITH WHAT RIGHT, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL ON YOUR LANGUAGE AND DON'TEVEN HESITATE TO INSULT THEM?
ajay sethi
(Expert) 15 August 2013
dhingraji is a senior expert. please do make any frivolous allegations against our senior experts .
we dont reply to academic queries . this is unanimous decision taken by experts
abhimanyu
(Querist) 15 August 2013
Dhingra Ji, you have said that
"Your problem is that you can be caught with the help of your own contradictory posts. On one hand you reiterate that your queries "have not been academic queries", on the other you desire "LET THE TERM 'ACADEMIC QUERY' BE DEFINED."
Shri Dhingra has not quoted complete line from my post in order to make my post contradictory. My post was LET THE TERM 'ACADEMIC QUERY' BE DEFINED BY THIS SITE SO THAT THIS WEAPON CAN BE USED BY EXPERTS APPROPRIATELY. Here SITE means LAWYERSCLUBINDIA and not EXPERTS.
Please appreciate there is no contradiction in my statements, as alleged by Shri Dhingra. Many Experts on this site have united and are labeling my queries as ACADEMIC notwithstanding my reiterating that queries are GENUINE, which are personal problems and documents can be produced. In view of difference of opinion on the issue, I had suggested LET THE TERM 'ACADEMIC QUERY' BE DEFINED BY THIS SITE...
Further, I am at a loss to understand when Shri Dhingra is taking so much trouble of quoting various portions of my posts suiting his convenience, why he is avoiding quoting his uninvited/unprovoked derogatory comments made against me for no fault of mine as well as my respect giving apologies to all experts including him. I request him to please quote those also so that readers may appreciate the position and allegaetions against me get dropped.
I again say that I have full respect for all experts including Shri Dhingra.
THIS IS MY LAST POST ON THIS ISSUE PLEASE.
Guest
(Expert) 15 August 2013
Mr. Abhimanyu,
This site is not obliged to give definitions for the querists, who are the free beneficiaries. The site is not obliged to define anything even for its Pro members who pay its membership fee, but still provide free service to even the thankless querists.
About your statement, "why he is avoiding quoting his uninvited/unprovoked derogatory comments made against me for no fault of mine," while posting your query you have not invited any specific member to give response to your query and not forbidden anyone to respond.
When you post a query that, in itself, is an open invitation to one and all to post their comments. Why do you expect that derogatory remarks on your part against any of the members should remain unresponded by the members whom you try to insult through your humiliating remarks, which you call a respect to the members?
Taunting remarks, like yours, do not constitute respect.
Please bear in mind, we do not conduct tutorials for queries of academic nature. You are free to post your queries of general nature in the forum section in which even the experts participate.
R.K Nanda
(Expert) 15 August 2013
I fully agree with views of experts Dhingra Sir and Ajay Sethi. do not take experts for granted.Moreover, how much free legal advice u want from experts.
Raj Kumar Makkad
(Expert) 16 August 2013
I also do agree with Dhingra sir and Ajay.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 22 September 2016
Experts may go thru the other threads initiated by Author @ abhimanyu at:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Comments-142356.asp
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/details.asp?mod_id=616256
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 22 September 2016
Despite the fact that author has been rejected by experts.
