Romance scam
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
This query is : Resolved
I have a question.
E.g: Nisha met someone on a matrimonial website- he is a Belgian citizen. Says he is a businessman etc...
They start chatting and make future plans, but over the course of a year and a half, she realizes,
1. He is jobless,
2. He has just a registered name for a business, there is actually no business at all.
3. He's been working on an ecommerce store for months (he is a network engineer), but keeps making excuses to start.
He had employed the girl to get in touch with vendors and has paid her for the work, for which she has some invoices. These invoices are created by the Belgian man, so there are many spelling mistakes etc.
Well the girl didn't suspect that things are going to go sour later. Over time, the girl has been trying to get papers done- passport etc... but it is taking longer than expected, due to some mismatch in eligibility criteria.
When the Belgian saw that it is taking long, he started emotionally abusing the girl, calling her a cheater and a liar and a thief.
Now the girl does not want to go to him. She is afraid. Also, to leave everything familiar and to live in another country on social security payments isn't what she had thought about.
Now he is saying that he will contact Indian police and file a complain against the girl citing ROMANCE SCAMMING as the reason. She came to me- extremely scared.
She didn't scam him at all... in fact, she was cheated because he said he was employed and he is not. Also, his behaviour changed, drastically. Can he trouble her this way? Can he get her arrested?
ajay sethi
(Expert) 09 October 2014
hypothetical query
Nadeem Qureshi
(Expert) 09 October 2014
No need to worry, he can not do anything against her.
contact a lawyer with all the communication, it will be better for best advise
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
It isn't a hypothetical query. I just don't want to give too much away about her... people are quick to judge and label
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
I'd appreciate all help
V R SHROFF
(Expert) 09 October 2014
after all; not ur personal problem: Let people enjoy few romantic moments and share a product named "pain" Let drama goes on.. It's Life...
Do girl romance with heart, feelings , boy or job & income only?? is ugly black dirty is preferred if has job???, or a handsome good hearted guy with moderate income??
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
Not looking for lectures on philosophy. And it is a legal query. So would appreciate if no life-lessons are doled out here.
Please stay away from this query if you are going to judge and question character. This is not a hindi film. And this man does not work, he plans on starting a family, have children by depending on government handout. No girl in her right mind would leave her home and country and settle with someone who cannot provide for her and her children's future. Stop judging if you cannot help.
V R SHROFF
(Expert) 09 October 2014
how did she disclose you her romance Mr. Manimish???
what business you have to deal with ???
don't waste valuable time on your dirty imaginary stories..
if dare ,, declare name and address of Nisha & Belgium boy , You ????cals. ..
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
Mr. V R Shroff:
you clearly don't get it - do you? I don't know how you became an expert, but you clearly have no expertise and I would appreciate if you stop harassing.
My business is none of your business. Your assumption and then your harassment of me is childish.
I am not foolish to accept dares and neither am I a ten year old gullible person to indulge a woman's details on a public forum.
You are a clear idiot for even asking for it. I do not need your help.
Any other sane person is welcome to suggest. Thank you.
Guest
(Expert) 09 October 2014
Mr.Manimish This is a Site to help deserving people especially to the affected persons directly.You had already seeked help for your Trade which had been advised properly.Remember you are dealing with Advocates and the Concerned Expert is a Very Senior Person.The words used by you could be repeated to you very easily but we do not wish to do it.Better Mind your Language.You had also not updated your profile which makes you Obviously an Anonymous Person.The Persons who had not updated their Personal Profile should be treated Anonymous and to be Ignored.Remember Still I could Trace You thro Cyber Cell.
Guest
(Expert) 09 October 2014
I Prefer that Persons Who had Not Up Dated Their Personal Profiles to Be Treated Anonymous Only and To Be Ignored.
Rajendra K Goyal
(Expert) 09 October 2014
Author,
please maintain decorum. Experts are advising by investing their time and at least have right to know the actual position and clarify the situation when the query seems imaginary or lacks some information.
Expert VR SHROFF is very senior, need no certificate for his knowledge, wisdom and helping nature.
Guest
(Querist) 09 October 2014
Well, he may be an expert and a very senior person in his domain and so can all of you. Mr. N.J.S.Rajkumar: You need a valid reason to contact cyber cell. Not everyone here is unaware of the law. Of course you can trace me through cyber cell- that would still constitute harassment. Also you would be using a government agency to do so. We all know our basic rights.
Also, whether I queried about my trade or not, again, is none of your business.
The fact that you choose to threaten me with the cyber cell and that too so easily can be taken as intimidation. I am a woman. And you are harassing me right now.
As for ignoring not-updated profiles, it is your choice. In fact people choose to be anonymous sometimes because of the kind of judgement that is meted out to them. Just the way Mr. Shroff did. Also the rest of you are doing the same.
People come here for valid answers and legal advice, not moralising. And that is what Mr. Shroff is doing. As for his age and experience, it should have showed in his reply. He isn't my father or my grandfather.
I came here to get some answers for someone in trouble, she came to me for help. While I am grateful for the help, I do not really care for the moralising. That isn't what lawyers do or are supposed to do. If I wanted that, I wouldn't have approached 'legal experts, here'.
Just because someone is senior , does not give them the right to get away saying anything they want. How will his advice help my friend? He is wasting his time as well as mine. And so are all of you.
This is more bullying than helping. If you cannot take what you dole out, don't choose to be a part of a forum which offers legal advice. Because except for one person, no one has really given any advice.
If it is an ego boost you are looking for, you aren't going to get it from me.
Once again, for someone who's been fighting for basic human rights for herself and others, do not threaten me with cyber cell. I know enough law to know that intimidating me is the wrong way to go. I'm out. This forum has changed and ha become more about wasting time and about bloated egos than helping out.
You take out time to give legal advice, for that we are thankful. But if you start moralising someone who is already going through enough trauma in her life, and judging them and using words like 'dare..', how does this behaviour justify all those years of experience?
So please stop bullying. The forum is full of such moralising and bullying behaviour. I'm deactivating the account only because this place is not what it used to be. Shame.
