This discussion concerns permanent lease agreements ('Patta Dawami' or 'hamesha hamesha') in Uttar Pradesh, where a grandfather granted properties with extensive tenant rights, including transferability. The grandson is questioning his ownership and the tenants' claims of absolute ownership, especially after years of not collecting rent. The advice suggests investigating the grandfather's land status under the UP Zamindari Abolition and Land Reforms Act and consulting a local lawyer, as the grandfather's title might have been extinguished.