Ajay Pal Jangra
27 May 2011 at 22:53
Subject: Promotion Quota and Direct Quota not decided/ defined.
Sirs.
We are members of Haryana Forest Rangers Welfare Association and we have a query regarding number of posts against Promotion Quota and Direct Quota in cadre of HFS officers. There is a sanctioned post of 54 posts of HFS officers in Haryana Forest Dept.
The cadre was fixed as below by the Financial Commissioner & Principal Sect. to Govt. of Haryana from existing 37 to 54 vide his order dated 11.6.2009. These 54 posts are categorized / classified as –
1. Total No.of Posts for various functions/posts in Haryana Forest Deptt. =44 no.
2. Total No.of Posts for Deputation Reserve (for Haryana Forest Development Corporation and other departments) =7 no.
3. Leave Reserve =3 no.
Total =54 no.
The Ratio in HFS cadre for Promotion Quota & Direct Quota as prescribed in the rule is 67:33 i.e. 67% by promotion and 33% by direct recruitment.
Our queries are as follows:-
1. If department can recruit HFS officers in Direct Quota, against the post of Deputation. (i.e. 7 no. in this case as per order of F.C.& P.S. ).
2. If department can recruit HFS officers in Direct Quota, against the post of Leave reserve(i.e. 3 no. in this case as per order of F.C.& P.S. ).
3. In case posts of Deputation i.e. 7, are abolished due to merger of corporation or otherwise, the directly recruited HFS officers can be removed from service.
4. If these directly recruited officers will not affect the cadre strength in future due to abolition of deputation posts.
5. As number of posts to be filled by Promotion Quota and Direct Quota are not defined in the said order of FC & PS, whether it should be calculated as
(i) 67:33 of 54 i.e. 36 by promotion and 18 by direct recruitment or it should be
(ii) 67:33 of {54- (7 of deputation +3 of leave reserve)} =44 i.e. 29+10=39 by promotion and 15 by direct recruitment.
6. If there is any service rule, guideline or court ruling to decide the cadre strength of promotion quota and direct quota where deputation posts and leave reserve posts are involved. (Quote rules or example if any)
7. The promotion quota and direct recruitment quota should be decided by logic or by the arbitrary or discretionary power of authority where no service rule or court direction is available.
With regards.
ravi juneja
27 May 2011 at 22:05
My department had given the advertisement for recruitment of 90 Engineers in the stream (Electronics-30, Mechanical-30, Electrical-30).
The department had followed the following recruitment procedure:
1. Electronics (30Nos) - Interview in month of june,2007 and joined in service on August,2007.
2. Mechanical (30Nos)- Interview in September,2007 and joined in October,2007.
3. Electrical (30Nos)- Interview in November-2007 and joined in service on December-2007/ January,2008.
Now the department is making seniority on the marks awarded in selection process and make inter see seniority.
My Query:
Can the department make the inter see seniority on the basis of awards of marks in selection process ? by ignoring the length of service and can we prove the selection of mechanical and electrical selection is a subsequent selection.
My Submission :
1. when the electronics engineers had joined the service the fate of Mechanical & Electrical was not there.
2. When Mechanical Engineers joined Electronics Engineers already served in department for two months and even when electrical engineers joined electronics engineers had served six months in job.
Sir,
I need the good judgement on seniority issue where length of service cant be ignored of supreme court of India. My case is going for argument in September and i need the help of esteemed professionals and served the real purpose of the website to get me justice. I am the sufferer of electronics batch whose seniority is affected badly.
Ajay Pal Jangra
27 May 2011 at 20:41
Subject : Not getting promotion from the post of Range Officer to HFS officer due to due to pending litigations among senior HFS officers.
Sir
We the members of Haryana Forest Rangers Welfare Association are not getting our promotion to next post of HFS due to various & several litigations pending in Hon’ble High Court of Punjab and Haryana. 7 HFS officers are to be promoted to IFS cadre and these vacancies are due for promotion since 1.1.2008 (4 no.) and 1.1.2010 (3no.). These litigations are regarding seniority and confirmation among HFS officer. These litigations are result of over cleverness, selfishness and over ambitions of some of HFS officers. Until and unless these litigations are decided by court, there can be no vacancy for promotion of Range officer to HFS. Court may take another 2-3 years to decide these litigation. The department is not promoting Range Officers to HFS saying that there is no vacancy due to above mentioned reasons. As a result of this the Range Officers are badly affected and service carrier of members of this category is also badly affected. It is causing us harassment, blocking our future prospects and pecuniary losses as well without any fault of ours.
Please guide us-
1.Whom to approach and how we should proceed to get our right of promotion which was due to be provided to us immediately after 1.1.2008 and 1.1.2010.
2. Some posts (may be 6 no.) of HFS officers of Direct Quota are vacant but we are not getting promotion against these posts also. It will take about 3-4 years of time to the department to fill these vacancies due to procedure of recruitment and training. Can we get promotion against these posts as after court decision these vacancies can be adjusted again.
3.Should we suffer without any fault of ours.
4. How we can get justice and our right of promotion.
With regards.
abhay paralikar
27 May 2011 at 16:44
Is gratuity needs to be paid on the Special Allowance given to employees.
abhay paralikar
27 May 2011 at 16:41
I am working in a hotel as a Manager Personnel. I understand Rebate is provided in Minimum Wages Act on Food provided to employees. Can i know the full details please
Anonymous
27 May 2011 at 15:24
Hi
We have an employee who caused us much damage and before we could terminate him, he sent in his resignation. Is it legal to not accept his resignation and terminate him?
Anonymous
27 May 2011 at 15:21
Dear Experts, The EPS Nomination provides for children pension, widows pension and for widows pension - two columns. One for nominating a member's wife's name and another, in case the member's wife is pre-deceased, to provide for any other family member. Query: Can this nominee be any person including his mother/father. Query 2: Can an unmarried person also nominate a family member for this widow pension! Query 3: Now a days, Company's have pay cycle, usually by 20th of a month and if a person joins on 20th or thereafter, his pay is paid as part of the next month's pay roll - is it sufficient compliance for PF Act. Also if the new employee in such cases dies before the 1st EPS contribution is remitted, would his widow be entitled for the pension benefit. Thanks.
Sarita Kamal
26 May 2011 at 23:52
i joined an MNC in the month of Aug 2010.
I had to sign a service agreement which said if i leave the company within one year I will have to pay an amount of 20000/- to the company. When the agreement was signed the HR refused to give me a copy of the service agreement.
After 8 months, I resigned in mid May 2011 after serving a notice period of 1.5 months (out of 2 months).
In my Full and final settlement the amount deducted for breaking the Service agreement was shown as50000/-.
I found this absolutely shocking and requested the Service agreement for legal verification, and yet again the company refuse to give me the copy but the HR did give me the document for reading purpose.
There were certain things that i realised:
1) my signature was there only on the last page of the document while the rest of the pages that mentioned the service agreement clauses did not bear my signature.
2)till the end the HR refused to give me the copy of the doc.
Am I not suppose to get a copy of the document.
Can the initial pages of the document be tampered.
What should I do to acquire the copy of the service agreement.
SN
26 May 2011 at 14:31
Respected Sir/Madam,
With respect to a sole proprietership firm for example a dealership firm, what are the labour laws that need to be followed?
Can you please tell me the policies and laws that are mandatory for employer and employees to comply to?
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