Member (Account Deleted)
09 October 2011 at 15:06
Dear Sir
This is direct from http://www.csdindia.gov.in/Customer/Objective.aspx. The noble objectives of the Canteen Stores Department of India a holy Cow for being milched for welfare of armed forces personnel is as follows:-
OBJECTIVES---
To Provide consumer goods of high quality to the troops wherever they are, at a price cheaper than the prevailing market rates, as far as possible.
To Ensure that the level of consumer demand satisfaction is maintained at the maximum.
To Generate reasonable profitability to sustain the organisation, permit growth and provide additional facilities for troops and their families.
To Formulate and execute development programmes to improve and maintain organizational effectiveness.
To Periodically analyse and assess the diverse long term needs and aspirations of defence service forces and undertake timely measures to meet them.
Aren't NOBLE?
But somewhere down the line the meaning of troops has been given a TWIST to expand its clientele. Take a look who are our troops in respect to Canteen Stores Departments to boost sales and earn profits and transfer most of the profits earned by a solely owned central govt enterprise to wholly disowned NON-PUBLIC funds held hostaged by again wholly mortgaged armed forces personnel, Defence ministry personnel and almost any body who is otherwise nobody. I paste the page 8 para 12 of recently public Army order, an order which is considered a non-entity by the audit officials in the govt of India.
Page 8 Para 12 Army Order 02/2006--
Para12-Following categories of civilian employees paid out of Defence Services Estimates and also those employed in the under mentioned Ministries/ Departments are permitted to make purchases from service Canteens subject to payment of sales tax and other taxes as per directions of the state where they are entitled to such facilities:
Ministry of Defence incl those working in their respective attached offices and those working in lower military formations.
Defence Audit Department.
Executive officer Cantonment Board.
Hindustan Aero nautics Ltd.
Indian Defence Accounts Services.
Secretariat Border Roads Development Board and HQ Director General Border Roads.
Civilian employees of Unit/Formation Run Canteens.
Serving AND RETIRED EMPLOYEES of Canteen Stores Department those are getting pension from CSD Funds .
And then another Army order is published to take this LOOT AND PLUNDER to another high level. Look at the content of Army Order 19/2006 which says :-
PROCEDURE FOR OBTAINING SANCTION TO OPERATE A UNIT CANTEEN-
Para 1 - As per policy URC is given an independent registration number which facilitate it to draw the stores from the dependent depot directly. An extension counter can not be given a registration number and therefore can not draw stores from the depot but has to draw from dependent URCs.
Para 2.- As Direction COAS( Pl note this very carefully), it is proposed to est a chain of URCs and extention counters all over India ( could not extend it to other foreign countries , bad luck) to provide CSD facilities to ex-servicemen( pl note these words very carefully).There are certain remote areas where ex-servicemen concentration is large but no defence establishment exist to run a URC/EXTENTION counter.Extention counters for ex=servicemen opened in such areas were not found economically viable. Mobile canteens do not solve the problem as only grocery stores can be sold through them ( what a lie????). Par-force a need has been established to open a URC for exservicemen in such remote areas to make them economically viable.
Para 3-- In view of the avove it is felt( It was proposed in the earlier para)that a new Army Order may be issued to permit the opening of URCs where no active unit is located but have a large concentration of ex-service men present within close proximity.
AIM---
1. THE AIM of this Army Order is to lay down procedure for obtaining sanction ( by allotting new registration number) to operate a UNIT run Canteen .
LAY OUT----
1. Sanction to operate a unit canteen is accorded by the BDE/SUB AREA OR HIGHER FORMATION COMMANDER.XXXXX
2. sANCTION to run canteen will be subject to the following conditions:-
Unit( pl note the word UNIT) has on its posted strength the number of personnel not below hundred ( including attached personnel)9 These attached personel are floating mass and can be added elsewhere as well to justify the number 100) or where dependency of exservicemen( including their families) How is that)))are not below 5000.
xxxxxxx etc etc
3. After according necessary sanction the sub area/ Bde etc etc will forward the application to CSD with a copy to the unit certifying that the strength indicated comprises those eligible for CSD facilities .xxxxxxxxxxx( The govt of India is now on the loop giving the URCs a legality).
4. xxxxxxx
5. Units requiring financial assistance to run their own canteen or for expansion of their existing canteens can apply for grant of a loan to CSD( Look at this who is deciding that govt money be given on loan to NON-PUBLIC entities)as procedure laid down in AO 161/73( There is also an Army Order for that at the cost of govt exchequers for the privately funded URCs and hence not under RTI Act 2005.
6. (This is the para I WISH YOU TO GIVE A VERY SERIOUS LOOK) Other than from regular units of Army, Navy and Air Force the following are ( not units any more)eligible for running of their own canteens under the existing policy:-( Look at those words under the present policy????!!!!) By Army order 02/2006 it enabled the civilians from almost all categories to avail CSD facility from the SERVICES CANTEENS after paying sales tax etc etc. And then in the same year with the help of another Army order in the garb of establishing URCs for the ex-servicemen where there are large concentration of ex-servicemen in remote areas as per desires of COAS ( CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF- Must note this for future references)para 6 was clandestinely inserted as if authorising non-military units ( beyond the domain and control of COAS)to run their own URCs. Look at the names of the establishments as given below:
Para -Military force under operational / administrative control( If that be so where is the question of allowing them run their own canteens witha separate registration number?)
GREF Units.
NCC Units at Group Hq level
Army Staff and entiltled personnel
TA Units .
CDA's Staff/ Est ( Look who are being appeased and why)
Sainik Schools.
Ordnance Factories.
Embarkation Hq.
Est under the control of DGI , Min of Defeence .
Rastriya Indian Military College.
7.xxxxx8.xxxxx
96001/Q/DDGCS
sIGNED by Lt Gen A Natarajan
Adjutant General.
And what was the auth to extend CSD facilities to defence civilians ?
Take a look at the reply recd by me against my RTI query on 04 Nov 2008 from QMG Br IHQ of Min of Defence( Dy Dir GEN cANTEEN sERVICE )-
1.XXXXX
2.XXXXX
3. The canteen facility( less liquor and AFD items ) were extended to to serving Defence civilians employees paid out of Defence Estimates as a good will gesture for their support to the Defence Services consequest to a decision during 53rd Metting of the BOCCS( BOARD OF CONTROL CANTEEN SERVICES wherein the Defence Minister is the Chairman). Relevant extracts of the same is enclosed.
There are approximately 38 URCs being run by the CGDA /CDA ( List encl).
What the extract of the 53rd ( later changed to 56th Meeting held on 18 Mar 1986 states :
""" Para 22. xxxxxxxx. After a discusion it was brought out that all civilians employees paid from Defence Service Estimates and those employed in the undermentioned Ministries/Departments are permitted to make purchases from service Canteens-
Min of Defebce Min of Finance.
Defence Audit Deaprtments.
Indian Defence Acounts services.
GREF
Civilian employees of unit / formation canteens .
Civilian Gazetted officers etc etc
No there is mentioned of the reason(s) for their inclusion as had been highlighted by Dy Dir gEN of Canteen Services at the service HQ.
And no there was no sanction by any competent auth for COAS to desire est of URCs at remote locations for the ex-servicemen and authorising non-military govt deprtments to run their own canteens.
My question is where do I get the original govt notification the union of India mandating Canteen Stores Department to provide canteen facility to the troops.
And what was the order when Armed forces took over the CSD Retail outlets from the Private Contractors , who gave that order/ issued such notification. How do I get that notification?
Who should be the auth to include or exclude any central govt( CDA Staff/Est, CSD Staff/Est, Home Ministry officals ( Para-Military personnel / Est, Sainik Schools, Even Army Schools are availing the facilities)? Is it the cabinet decision , the parliament mandate or both?)
Pl advice .
Anonymous
09 October 2011 at 13:03
meri query yah hai ki agar koi goverment job me selection rules me general category ke liye candidates ki age under 25 year honi chahiye and obc candidates ke liye age me 28 year and sc, st ke liye under 30 year age honi chahiye .and after competitive exam .general category ki cut of merit 65% and obc category ki cut of merit 63% declare hoti hai .and mene obc category me apply kiya ho and mere mark 68% ho but age 26 year ho to sir me general catgory ki seat par selecte hota hu ya obc ki seat par ....sir general category ki seat par jo age limit hoti hai vah obc,sc,st category ke candidates agar general merit me select hote hai to kya unke liye bhi vahi age limit consider ki jati hai ya unhe age me 3 or 5 year ka benifit milega...
Anonymous
09 October 2011 at 07:59
Introducing Cctv in the colleges , will it amount to violation of Right to Privacy of the Student ?........... If yes how?...
Can any student association file writ petition in High Court seeking a Writ of Mandamus?.........
Anonymous
08 October 2011 at 20:05
Dear Sir,(s)
There was case decided in recent past (2006 to 2010)about infringement of privacy by a Paying Guest owner at Pune.He had installed CCTV cameras in rooms of his PG house & illegal use of the same..
He was made liable.
Can you please inform,if you know about citation.?
It could be of help at the earliest.
Rgrds
KRISHNA KUMAR P
08 October 2011 at 18:40
Sir,
I P Krishna Kumar applied RTI application on 27 Aug 2011 to GVMC for sanction, expenditure details and facilities provided/given by GVMC to our locality. Reply received on 20 Aug 11 from PIO of GVMC saying that your application has been forwarded to Chief City Planning officer and he will give reply to you (letter date is 05 Aug 11) till to date there is no any reply.
My question is as per RTI act:
(a) How many days I well wait for reply form Chief City Planning officer?
(b) In case reply not received form authority what I will do?
Anonymous
08 October 2011 at 14:40
sir,,, meri query yah hai ki agar koi goverment job me selection rules me general category ke liye candidates ki age under 25 year honi chahiye and obc candidates ke liye age me 28 year and sc, st ke liye under 30 year age honi chahiye .and after competitive exam .general category ki cut of merit 65% and obc category ki cut of merit 63% declare hoti hai .and mene obc category me apply kiya ho and mere mark 68% ho but age 26 year ho to sir me general catgory ki seat par selecte hota hu ya obc ki seat par ..please rplyyy me sirrrrr
MG N RAO
08 October 2011 at 13:00
my wife has been denied child care leave by her employer even though on genuine grounds and she is the lone employee so far to be turned down it is vested interest only. now she is transferred to another place and orders has been issued by the highest authority ie. head quareters at delhi still relieving is not done and also no child care leave and he has virtually caused office arrest of a female employee what is the quick legal remedy for us
Member (Account Deleted)
07 October 2011 at 21:45
I made an appeal to the RTI Cell IHQ of MoD(Army), Sena Bhavan , New Delhi on 04 Aug 2011 as follows:-
a) Information of all the specific Rules which allows canteen facilities to be extended to the civilians.
b) Specific dates since which the facilities are extended.
c) Copy of the relevant circulars , name and rank of authority who issued the circular.
d) In addition if there is any vigilance mechanism where complaint may be given to them.
I have just recd the reply as follows vide their letter No A/810027/RTI/7642 dated 29 Sep 2011 recd today by ordinary post. It says :
a) Info on query No (a) - An extract copy of AO 2/2006/QMG is encl herewith . The photostat page of the extract of the Army Order is almost inlegible but let me try to decipher.
Para 12 . Defence Civilians ;- Following categories of civilians paid from Defence Services Estimates and also those employed in the under mentioned ministries / departments are permitted to make purchases from service canteens subject to payment of sales tax and other levies as per directions of the respective state where they are entitled to such facilities:-
- min of defence.
- defence audit deptt.
- executive officer cantonment board.
-hindustan aeronautics ltd
-indian defence accounts services who are serving on deputation to posts other than those in the min of defence9fin).
-secretarat border security roads development board and hq director gen border roads.
- civilian employees of unit/formation run canteens.
serving and retired employees of canteen stores departments who are getting pension from CSD funds.
2. Info on query No (b)- The canten facilities are extended to the civilians wef 27 Jun 1966.
3. Information on query No (c)- Copy of the circular mentioned in para 2(b) above is encl herewith. The circular att is a letter from Army Headquarters QMG DHO PO NEW DELHI dated 27 Jun 1966 addsd to HQ southern /western/Eastern and central command.
Subjects :- Canteen Facilities to civilian employees paid out of defence Estimates and also those employed in the min of defence , ministry of finance(defence) and their respective attached offices..
It goes on to say : - All civilians paid out of defence services estimates and also employed in the under mentioned ministries / departments will be permitted to make purchases from the services canteens on production of their authenticated photo bearing security passes ;-
It includes all the categories I have just listed which have now been included in the Army Order published in 2006.
I am in possession of a reply from the same office i.e QMG IHQ of MoD( Army) dated 04 Nov 2008 in reply to my RTI query earlier which states as follows :
Para 2 - The Army order under ref pertains to QMG bR . QMG is the nodal agency of the BOARD OF CONTROL CANTEEN SERVICES( wherein Hon'ble Rakha Mantri is the Chairman) to issue all policy instructions / directions / guidelines on behalf of the MOD. Accordingly the Army Order under ref was issued on the issue of URCs.
Para 3 - The Canteen facility less liquor and AFD items were extended to the serving civilian employees paid out of Defence Estimates as a goodwill gesture for their support to the Defence Services consequent a decision during the 53 Meeting of the BOCCS. Relevant Extracts of the same are encl.
As per the extract the meeting was held only on 18 Mar 1986.
One need not much brain to see through the game QMG is playing . I had asked for the Rules under which definition of Troops ( That is the pre condition to avail CSD facility) was diluted . Naturally that had to a cabinet/ Parliament decision as it immediately increase the clientele multifold and caused the govt crores of rupees on infrastructures as well as manpower to handle that extraordinary burdain to the exchequers .
For the military bosses and the Defence Audit Personnel and of course the IAS.COM more the merrier. GOvt of India bleeds , there are more expansion of the CSD,,More procurement more profit , more QD to the URCs and more income to that so called NON-PUBLIC funds held by the military bosses in collusion with the audit authorities as well as the IAS .com at the min of Deence as well as Offence sorry Finance.
And there is more. The Military bosses became bolder. They published Army Order kind Coutesy Gen J J Singh allowing Audit Staff/Est to run their own canteens ( the QMG letter talks about availing serfacility from services canteens). And the profit in those URCs are being paid as dividend to the civilian employees - what a wonder ful Idea Sirjiii?
Now the CSD depot are also running their own URCs( Could not covered by any of the Army Orders ) but they are there. The URC staff are just temporarily employed casual employees . The unit commanders / head of the est recruit them as per their whims and fancies ( following no govt of India policies) but they are also included to avail the CSD facility. Look at the level where the Min of Defence , the military bosses have stooped down to appease the Defence Auding officials , the casual employees of the URC so that CSD facility can be abused to its maximum potential converting consolidated funds of India to Non-public funds for the thre sewrvices , almost all departments of Defence and Offence.
I think we need that damn LOKPAL bILL URGENTLY. tHIS LOOT AND SCOOT AND PLUNDER OF NATIONAL WEALTH MUST CEASE TO EXIST.
Pl do help me making my next step.
Anonymous
06 October 2011 at 22:02
Dear Experts,
This query is related to this judgement available at http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/SRB/judgement/23-05-2011/SRB20052011CW24912000.pdf
It is about the Delhi High Court nullifying the validity of July 13, 1962 notification exempting air guns, air rifles, air pistols from the requirement of license under the Arms Act 1959. I do understand that Hon'ble Delhi High Court did not apply its mind to the provision of Section 41(a) of the Arms Act 1959.
The query is: Does High Court have power to nullify a Central legislation under judicial review beyond its territorial jurisdiction or its effect has to be within its jurisdiction?
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