laywer harrasing and threatening me and my wife...trying to extract money un nessary.
francis
(Querist) 16 July 2011
This query is : Resolved
my brother had sent me a notice regarding the flat,so i had gone to one of the lawyer on friday for suggestion through someones contact,that laywer didnt have time to talk,so he told me to leave the notice papers and he will read it and i will phone you on the coming 5 tuesdayjuly 2011, because on monday4 july 2011, he will be going to bombay,i had informed him that we only came for suggestion he told that he will read the matter and then let me know....on tuesday evening he phone me telling that i have alredy drafted the reply letter so you pay me five thousand (5000), i told him that i have not told you draft the letter for reply, he told me that he will send the letter to the concern person, i told him that i have not given you any authority to that neither i gave you any thing in writing you cannot do that,that lawlwer then started phoning my wife on her mobile, and thgreatening her she informed me about it, i phoned him and told him us not to bother us again, yesterday i went to work in the afternoon he came with another person to my house, my wife told him that my husband is not their, he will phone you, they started to threatening my wife that if you dont give five thousand i will send you'll a notice and hand over the papers to the front party, my wife told me when i came home back from work,i phoned that layer and told him not to bother us but still he is troubling us what can be done, he is just harrasing us and threatening us.i have not appointed him as a lawyer at all...
Guest
(Expert) 16 July 2011
You may approach the Bar council, if the lawyer is really using such unfair practices and blackmailing tactics, as it can be a case of professional misconduct on the part of the advocate.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 16 July 2011
I AGREE WITH Expert PS Dhingra, CEO, Dhingra Group.
IN ADDITION REPORT THE MATTER TO POLICE ALSO
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 16 July 2011
You have taken advice and now avoiding to pay him fees it is unfair on your part. You had gone to the advocate, he did not come to you.
The advice for complaint against the advocate can boomrang on you.
francis
(Querist) 17 July 2011
one of the lawyer has sent a reply stating your lawyer and what he sent is............. You have taken advice and now avoiding to pay him fees it is unfair on your part. You had gone to the advocate, he did not come to you.
The advice for complaint against the advocate can boomrang on you.
As you can see he is still trying to threaten by sending this reply to me, so you can see with your own eyes, he didnt tell me that he will charge for 5000 for advice, do you think that i would talk to him then, i have spoke to 15-20 layer but no one has even told me that they will charge for speaking and they are top laywers in the city, i have informed them about this guy behaviour, they have told me to report to the Bar council,or give a written complain and show the voice recording to the seniour magistrate and even launch a complain and inform the media about it, which i will do very soon, just waiting for another step of his.........thank you
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 17 July 2011
You had gone to him and now creating unnecessary rocus , there will very well be a criminal complaint against you for spoiling the reputation of a member of bar.
Adv. Sunil
(Expert) 18 July 2011
Francis ji,
Instead of narrating the story here you shoulkd have visited any Police station and have complained aboutr the incident. The matter is greivious, NO person howsoever great lawyer or magistrate has the authority to call and visit anyones home to harass torture and threaten for paying unecesary fees for the work that was never done or intended to be done.
You should forthwith go to police station and get the FIR registered for Harassment, Threatening, Unlawful restratin to your wife at your home, assault and damaging modesty of a woman etc... once the FIR is registered Police will ARREST that Lawyer and teach him the approproiate law and its consequences.....
Follow the law as no one is above it...
Simultaneously contact Bar council of the state and get the media's attraction and publish the story in news papers.....
Further pls. let me know the place of Incident, Name of Lawyer and Police station.
Guest
(Expert) 18 July 2011
Dear Francis,
It seems, the unnamed "your advocate" has not read your question properly. It seems he considers mere visit by you to the advocate without getting any advice, even when he did not have any time to attend to you and simply proposed you to leave the papers for his study. Probably, he considers the proposal of the advocate as an advice to you without providing any solution and preparing draft voluntarily even without your asking. He does not see the blackmailing tactics and unethical behaviour of that advocate, who is causing a bad name for the advocates community.
If you really feel that he is claiming fee without any real service to you, you have every right to expose such like unethical practitioners.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 18 July 2011
Because of such forcaus I am unnamed.And so called CEO support such braggards.Service of the advocate can not be measured.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 18 July 2011
and so called CEO SELF declared non legal person has no business to blame and critisise advocates.
Guest
(Expert) 22 July 2011
Dear "Your Advocate"
Had you been transparent in your dealings you would not have hidden your identity, while not only I give my complete name, but also has placed my photo. Only people who are unfare in their practices can be expected to hide their identity. If you are co clean, why don't you show your identity, so that we may also be able to see, who is providing such type of advices to the people? By hiding your identity, it gives clear impression that you are afraid of getting exposed amongst not only the experts, but also amongst the public, who try to pose their trust on the advocates community.
About measurement of services of an advocate, the services are measured by fair and ethical practices, not by the unethical and cheating acts, which can clearly be termed as disservice and malpractices.
Better try to be true and fair to your profession, rather than giving such wrong advice to the public.
francis
(Querist) 22 July 2011
A salute to Mrs. PS DHINGRA, and Mrs. SUNIL from my heart, MAY GOD BLESS YOU'LL, thank for your support i have got a relief and now i am not in depression any more after i got your reply, you'll will get my family Blessing...Thank you
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 22 July 2011
Mr Dhingra you are putting such a big name and what you are doing on such small place.
And before criticising advocates and ;legal profession please also declare your authority in law.
And how you believe this story without hearing the advocate concerned. Is it not possible that this person is harassing him to avoid liabilities.
Guest
(Expert) 23 July 2011
Dear Anonymous "Your Advocate"
Better reread my posts, which clearly states, "if the lawyer is really using such unfair practices" AND "If you really feel that he is claiming fee without any real service to you."
Where the question arises in my believing the story? RATHER, in your reply to his question, you have jumped to the conclusion that the service was provided to the author of the question. it clearly denotes that you are very poor even in your interpretations of the questions and replies by others.
So, NOW I pose a vital question on you. Before presuming that the advocate would have provided service to the author of the question and the author was liable to pay him fee, did you investigate from both the sides, who is right and who is wrong?
Another question for you, did you go through my contributions on the LCI and could you find any of my replies against law?
Guest
(Expert) 24 July 2011
SO, SKJ, you are also very poor in making interpretation of even the simple terms and what I have written. It is only your friend, the anonymous 'your advocate' has jumped to the conclusion, without any verificcation, that service would have been rendered to Mr. Francis.
Here you have also exposed yourself about your incapability to interpret my simple replies, while I have never stated for police action. I have made a mention of only the "PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT" and that too with clear mention about if that existed. Even you have not tried to read my previous reply to your friend where I have clearly repeated my words, like, "if the lawyer is really using such unfair practices" AND "If you really feel that he is claiming fee without any real service to you." Are these sentences difiicult to be understood by you and your friend?
JUST INDICATE WHERE I HAVE SAID ABOUT POLICE ACTION OR WOULD HAVE ADDED THE WORDS "COMPANIES" AFTER THE WORDS "GROUP OF"?
Mind it, if an advocate adopts unethical and unlawful practices, his client has the right to expose him for his professional misconduct and seek remedial action by the authorities concerned. Better you and your friend could have understood that.
From your latest post, it has clearly indicated that YOU ALSO PREFER TO PRESUME ANYTHING LIKE YOUR FRIEND THE ANONYMOUS 'YOUR ADVOCATE.'
Mind it, both of you are exposing yourself more and more about your poor understanding and misinterpretations, inspite of your being a qualified advocates. What type of professionalism and expertise is this on your part? I wonder, if you are unable to interpret even the simple sentences of English, what type of interpretation can be expected from you for legal terms/jargons?
Mind it, I am not liable to report to anonymous persons, like you and your friend. Both of you have miserably failed to give your complete identity, including your name. About me, maximum of my indormation, including name and even photograph is avilable at the LCI/'About Me'. If you are unable to understand anything from that information, it is not my fault, rather you are showing your own lack of understanding. On the other hand, both of you have been avoiding to reveal your realself, even on repeated requests. This clearly gives rise to some doubt, as if both of you may be the supporters of unethical practices and seem to be afraid of not being identified by the people, whome you might have rendered disservice.
I once again request you to come forward with your complete information, including your name and photograph, if you consider yourself so clean and fair.
Guest
(Expert) 24 July 2011
SKJ, Really surprising, I wonder to find that you CANNOT EVEN DISTINGUISH between the simple terms "CONSULTANTS" and "COMPANIES". Besides, all these shortcomings (including those pointed out in my previosu message), still you claim to be a professional and expert! I have already asked you to indicate where I have used the word of "companies" in my profile?
Anybody can guess you have just wasted your academic years just to get an LLB Degree and even thereafter the whole of the period of your practice not to gain any professionalism or expertise.
Alas, you try to pose yourself as a champion, but get yourself exposed time and again through your own posts as to where do you stand.
By not coming forward with your true and complete identity, you clearly seem to be terribly afraid that every member of this community may know ground reality about you. IF NOT, come out openly to let us know what is your name and other particulars along with your photograph, and where you are located.
Guest
(Expert) 25 July 2011
SKJ, you forget that I askerd you to give your interpretation about CEO, as it was only you, who raised the controversy about CEO. Am I supposed to give you clarifications, when you have your own defect in reading like "consultants", as "companies", and "professional misconduct", as "police action?"
Now it is incumbent upon you to first give your complete identity along with your picture. Anonymous persons, who work with pseudonemous names and prefer to hide their identity, have no right to ask for any information from others. I don't understand, why you are shy of revealing your identity? You are hiding your identity, as if you are the same person, about whom Mr. Francis, the author of the thread, has complained through these columns?
You have also not given reply to several of my questions and have always been avoiding to reply in the other link page, as at:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/DIRECTORY-OF-EXPERTS-PRACTITIONERS-212686.asp
Guest
(Expert) 09 August 2011
Dear Friends
I thank all the participants who made me to clear my position and expose the fake identities of two gentlemen, who claim to be experts, but are afraid of revealing their true identity.
NOW you may like to see another development where the ex-YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN is now JSDN, having switched over to his 3rd fake identity within just a week's time. He changed his lable just two days back and is now posting his answers with his newly acquired fake identity of JSDN.
YOU CAN NOW WELL UNDERSTAND, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ACT AS IMPOSTERS AND FRAUDS, AS THEY ARE UNABLE TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN POSITION OF BEING GENUINE EXPERTS.
Further, you may also like to review the position, if such fake identity holders would have tried to falsely jeopardise your own positions, I am sure you would also have definitely liked to defend your positions.
Similary, I have justifiedly tried to defend my position also. Any one, whosoever, like "YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN alias JSDN" or SKJ alias SKJADV-SARDAESENA," cannot digest my opinions or advice, they are quite free not to act upon any of my opinion/advice or even should desist to take my opinion/advice in future also. I am contented with the site administration and my friends (including some advocates/lawyers), who consider me as expert in some important matters.
Anyway, again my thanks to all the participants who tried to bear with me.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 09 August 2011
So do you want to still suggest a non legal person that any complaint against an advocate on a public platform should be refered to police without knowing what is the real fact from the concerned advocate.
And you are back on your job of dishing out opinion blaming people on a fake designation of CEO AND some non existant group.
Guest
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
I knew you would not be able to resist yourself and would appear some day to expose more of yourself. So, you have now come with a real blackmailing threat to refer the matter to police. In that case you would also need to lodge a police compaint against the administration of the LCI, which has registered me as an expert.
Of course, you would first need to know the meaning of definitions of expert and group. I know some one, may be you or some one else, has already posted a query in this forum, as an anonymous person, to know the definition of expert, as appearing at the following link:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Definition-of-expert-218741.asp
The question arises, what was the need to hide the identity in posting that question when that question was just to enhance the academic knowledge of the poster of the question and when the query did not represent any personal problem of confidential nature?
BUT, you must understand, when you fail to reply even a single query from me, you are unable to give legal definition of CEO, you interpret the terms wrongly, you do not know the meaning of simple terms like "anonymous," you declare not only me but also Mr. Ramachandran, as anonymous when both of us come with our real names with every post, while you yourself do not come forward with your real name, you are not ready to reveal your real identity and continue to change even your fake identity very frequesntly, how some one can know the "real fact from the concerned advocate" like you? I can understand that you may be just a disgruntled and irritated person, when you are not able to find solution to the problem created by yourself by getting yourself exposed every time by yourself only.
Guest
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
What about you? Do you not feel bold enough to reveal your real identity, and trying to hide your identity which you even have been switching over from one fake ID to another very frequently?
Don't you have courage enough to reply to my queries, as none of which has been answered so far?
Interestingly, you are asking me to show my boldness where I am appearing with my real identity. On the other hand, YOU ARE NOT showing any boldness to show your real identity and to answer any of my questions.
However, by posting your fresh query "tell us what is your group," you have yourself proved beyond doubt your another shortcoming that even as an expert you are not able to read even a very small text properly. Your problem is that You try to read just between the lines, which is quite harmful at least for the career of a practising lawyer, if you really are. The name of my group is clearly indicated along side my name, which you failed to read. If you are not able to read any text properly that is not my fault.
