It should be with all MSP
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Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 20 October 2011
It should be with all MSP
Regards,
Shonee Kapoor
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Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..) 20 October 2011
Sh. P Suresh (For To By Green Kindness Perpetuity Selfsustainability Always) 20 October 2011
Well, your MSP (Mobile Service Provider) is Airtel.
I think all MSPs are required to store all data permanently. The policy is to have them in tiers. i.e. last year, last 3 years, last 5 years, last 7 years and permanent storage.
Court order/request will be binding on MSP to clarify the true position. It seems Sec 91 Cr.P.C has worked.
This being the case, the same method should be adopted in this case as well.
Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..) 20 October 2011
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 20 October 2011
I don't know about tiers.
I know that they take backup on tapes which they should maintain for minimum seven years.
Airtel would be no exception.
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Shonee Kapoor
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Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..) 20 October 2011
Sh. P Suresh (For To By Green Kindness Perpetuity Selfsustainability Always) 21 October 2011
As of tiers, there are no tiers for MSPs. It applies only for backups.
Airtel is amongst the first MSP in India and as far as I see, it has kept itself uptodate with contemporary technologies. Backup is not even a technological requirement, but is a fundamental, rather mandatory requirement. MSPs also need such MSPs for various inhouse, business and legal purposes. Even the legal framework of the nation i.e. government orders also makes it binding on the part of MSPs to have a sound backup strategy. Thus, the chances of Airtel being able to provide you the required data is fairly high.
However, the only doubt is whether it is accessible to common man? That is why you should try accessing this information through the section under CrPc that has yielded desired results.
All in all, it will be like this: You move the court/authority under your signature. The court/authority gives the order/request. Airtel gives you/that authority the result.
Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..) 21 October 2011
Laws Of Attraction (ADVOCATE) 10 January 2012
Any service provider maintains the phone and sms data only for 3months what ever may be the circumstance. Subject to the importance of the data in the phone it is admissible in court by court's order and direction.
Laws Of Attraction (ADVOCATE) 10 January 2012
Any service provider maintains the phone and sms data only for 3months what ever may be the circumstance. Subject to the importance of the data in the phone it is admissible in court by court's order and direction. Hope you got your required reply.......
Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..) 10 January 2012
As I mentioned, it is possible to SPOOF SMS messages. The carrier will transport the SMS message from Phone X to Phone Y but make the message on Phone Y appear as if it came from Phone Z.
An example
Estranged wife, technically can prove that the SMS message that the husband received from his cell phone is from his mistress.
If anyone wants a demo of the above, send me ( via PM ) a cell phone # and what text you want to be sent and from which phone number you want that SMS sourced and I can demonstrate that this is possible.The demo should only be used for educational purposes and not to harm or harass anyone.
The validity in court requires other technical methods to prove that those messages are not spoofed.
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 19 January 2012
There is no such rule of 3 months.
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Shonee Kapoor
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Sh. P Suresh (For To By Green Kindness Perpetuity Selfsustainability Always) 29 January 2012
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The carrier will transport the SMS message from Phone X to Phone Y but make the message on Phone Y appear as if it came from Phone Z. ----------- The validity in court requires other technical methods to prove that those messages are not spoofed. |
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Oh My God! if messages can be spoofed as is suggested, then it is hell!
This is the reason why 'Evidence act' does not accept electronic records at face value.
Having come this far, it is pertinent to reveal what are the technical methods that will be acceptable in court. Else, the whole exercise will become futile.
ranjeeth (manager) 29 January 2012
HI Shoneeji,
My Wife sends abusive meassages in chat can that be proof , she is sending that from unknown ID can we prove that ... from which Ip address is she chatting ... will that help in my DV case
Thanks in advance