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Prakash Yedhula (Lawyer)     05 May 2011

Why not India follow US and kill 26/11 terrorists?

If US can kill 09/11 terrorists by crossing over to Pakistan without their permission, why not India follow the same to kill 26/11 terrorists who are in Pakistan. If US's action is right, so should India's action in this regards.



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G. ARAVINTHAN (Legal Consultant / Solicitor)     05 May 2011

But it is not disclosed till now, where is the culprit brain for 26/11 attacks 

Adv. Subhadeep Saha (Lawyer.)     05 May 2011

India is also capable of such attack.but India is a peace loving country basically. moreover India cares about the consequnces of such attack in future.over and above India is not america.

Democratic Indian (n/a)     05 May 2011

India is not even remotely like USA, either militariliy or location wise, hence it will not be wise for India to mimic the actions of USA. Similar action by India will produce a much bigger disaster, possibly a full scale war between nuclear armed neighbours with highly undesirable consequenses.
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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     05 May 2011

simply due to diplomatic reason.

 

mr democratic indian explained the reason very well. but it is a part.

 

the another part is congress and other so called secular perties do not like to lose their vote banks. but it does not mean that if bjp comes the situation will change. we already gone through the bjp rejim.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     05 May 2011

what america and pakistan doing today that is a mock fighting. i strongly belive that without the help of pakistan govt america could not do so well.

 

no fighting, no raddar record of the entry of american helicopter; the area is within the walkable distance of pak army still then america make pakistan foolish and pakistan hapily made the role of a foolish.

 

it remembers me the kim devi's arm's drooping case at purulia. radar of kharagpur (which is nearest) was switched of intentionaly. no record, no alarm bell. kim the other did their job successfully. but the radar of mumbai catch the plane of kim and alert ring rang. due to the alertness of mumbai, kim caught. i hope similar things happened with pakisthani radddar on that time.

 

therefore what now going on between america and pakisthan is nothing but a mock diplomatic fighting.

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Advocate.S.A.Siddiq (Advocate)     05 May 2011

US  activities is like cross boarder terrorism , it's not good for world peace. Each and every countries had  sovernity and dignity. Egypt, Turkey, Afkanisthan, Iraq , Siria, Thunisia, Dubai , Jordon, Palestin , Libya, Iran Peoples are suffer the western country terrorism . India and true indians are like the each and every humanbeing.

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Rajat sahotra (Partner)     05 May 2011

Pakistan kept mum  as he needs the US $ aid.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     05 May 2011

Obama tells that, it is only 40 min to cought the laden; hillory clinton's proudy comments that  - "IT IS AMERICA".

 

but the world knows that this success comes after the failure of more than 10 years. though laden staying there more than five years, which means he was their from the time of musharaff, but america did not do it at the time of musharaff.

 

i guess that, laden was old enough, a patitent, & likely a burdain to  the pak administration, his popularity among the islamic fundamentalist was a threat to the pak govt,  therefore they remove this evil by this manner.

no doubt that pak govt helps the americans.

Democratic Indian (n/a)     05 May 2011

Originally posted by :Arup
" what america and pakistan doing today that is a mock fighting. i strongly belive that without the help of pakistan govt america could not do so well.
 
no fighting, no raddar record of the entry of american helicopter; the area is within the walkable distance of pak army still then america make pakistan foolish and pakistan hapily made the role of a foolish.
 
it remembers me the kim devi's arm's drooping case at purulia. radar of kharagpur (which is nearest) was switched of intentionaly. no record, no alarm bell. kim the other did their job successfully. but the radar of mumbai catch the plane of kim and alert ring rang. due to the alertness of mumbai, kim caught. i hope similar things happened with pakisthani radddar on that time.
 
therefore what now going on between america and pakisthan is nothing but a mock diplomatic fighting.
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Of course Pakistani establishment(read as Punjabi establishment ruling over Pakistan, history of this establishment is well known about what it did with people in East Pakistan because it never wanted to be ruled over by non Punjabis. Religion is just an excuse rather a tool for them to fool the people. Same thing is being repeated now by them.) is doing mock fighting to please the ignorant Pakistanis. A real fight with USA will be suicidal. If we go to https://www.telegraphindia.com/archives/archive.html and search Telegraph copy for 4.5.2011the first news item explains this in detail. I menton the relevant extracts below:

Revealing details about Sunday’s Abbottabad operation are to be found in the Chinese media, especially China’s official news agency, Xinhua, which has no pretensions to media freedom unlike its American counterparts.

The Chinese have the best sources in Pakistan, given the all-weather friendship between Islamabad and Beijing.

Xinhua says electricity was cut off to Abbottabad as the operation to kill Osama began. That shows complicity with the Americans not only within the Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi but down the line to the local administration that controls the electricity switching stations.

Xinhua says security forces cordoned off the entire area near Osama’s safe house before the Americans attacked it and no one was allowed to enter or leave the operational surroundings during the attack.

That only means the Pakistanis knew what was going to take place, although it is only logical that reasons for sealing off the area would not have been communicated down the line to the local police or paramilitary units.

Xinhua also says residents of Abbottabad took videos and cellphone pictures from their rooftops as the spectacular helicopter landing and firefight was under way.

But Pakistani security forces went round from house to house collecting memory cards from cameras and seizing videos from residents soon enough so that the pictures were not transmitted freelance by what modern TV would call citizen journalists.

All this could not have been organised by the Pakistanis after the event, which means, circumstantially, that the killing of Osama was a well co-ordinated US-Pakistani operation down to local ward-level in Abbottabad.

Besides, Abbottabad is the seat of a brigade of the second division of Pakistan’s Northern Army Corps and several other sensitive army establishments, including a key military training academy.

Metaphorically, even a fly cannot circle the skies of that city without escaping the attention of the defence network that guards Abbottabad.

It is for this reason and to keep up the fiction that the US and Pakistan did not co-operate in killing Osama that an official statement was issued in Islamabad today that “US helicopters entered Pakistani airspace making use of blind spots in the radar coverage due to hilly terrain”.

The statement added that “US helicopters’ undetected flight into Pakistan was also facilitated by the... efficacious use of latest technology and ‘nap of the earth’ flying techniques”.

At the same time, the Pakistan Army did not want its people to lose faith in Rawalpindi as the guardian of their country’s borders and their defence.

Hence, a paragraph in the statement which asserts that “it may not be realistic to draw an analogy between this undefended civilian area and some military (and) security installations which have elaborate local defence arrangements”.

But to think that American helicopters carrying heavily armed personnel who attacked Osama’s hideout could have violated Abbottabad’s air space without help from Pakistan is pure fiction that is meant for the masses who are vulnerable to jihadi sermons in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Inflaming those masses could mean difficulties for the Americans everywhere.

But it is true that “Abbottabad and the surrounding areas have been under sharp focus of intelligence agencies since 2003, resulting in highly technical operation by ISI which led to the arrest of high-value al Qaida target in 2004”, as the statement claims.

Of the greatest significance, however, is the revelation in the statement that “as far as the target compound is concerned, ISI has been sharing information with CIA and other friendly intelligence agencies since 2009. The intelligence flow indicating some foreigners in the surroundings of Abbottabad, continued till mid-April 2011”.

The Pakistani statement is remarkable for its candour between the lines because it is admitting that in April 2011, the ISI stopped sharing information about Osama with the Americans because of strains between their respective intelligence outfits.

As a result, the Americans had to put off their plans to kill or capture bin Laden in mid-April, plans which began when Pakistan shared that intelligence from 2009, because the operation could not be undertaken without Islamabad’s full support.

The internal power struggles in the Pakistani establishment were resolved when it was decided that not only will intelligence co-operation be revived but also that to make up with the Americans, they would sacrifice Osama.

That is tantamount to a coup within Pakistan which paves the way for stronger, better and deeper ties between Pakistan and the US, belying Indian hopes to the contrary.

The Pakistani statement truthfully claims that “reports about US helicopters taking off from Ghazi airbase are absolutely false and incorrect”. The US has enough capabilities for an operation of this kind not to want to use Pakistan’s military facilities.

All it needed was logistics support and unimpeded passage into Abbottabad.

There is irony in the portion of the statement which says the “CIA and some other friendly intelligence agencies have benefited a great deal from the intelligence provided by ISI. ISI’s own achievements against al Qaida and in the war on terror are more than any other intelligence agency in the world”.

There is a ring of truth in it with their sacrifice of their biggest trump card in dealings with the US, namely the world’s most wanted terrorist, Osama.

And finally, some window dressing: “The Government of Pakistan expresses its deep concerns and reservations on the manner in which the Government of the United States carried out this operation without prior information or authorisation from the Government of Pakistan.”

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Sarvesh Kumar Sharma Advocate (Advocacy)     05 May 2011

Right  question at right time!

my view-

there one line formula applies in OUR COUNTRY against terrerism!

don't kill your VOTE-BANK! 

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Dadi Uma Mahesh (NA)     05 May 2011

As long as our country is ruled by 50+ Leaders (Those who are mere chuthiyas and expert in dialogbaji) that will not happen!

Forget about USA , we do not even match small coutries who dare to do such acts.

Dadi Uma Mahesh (NA)     05 May 2011

As long as our country is ruled by 50+ Leaders (Those who are mere chuthiyas and expert in dialogbaji) that will not happen!

Forget about USA , we do not even match small coutries who dare to do such acts.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     05 May 2011

a tool for them to fool the people

 

---   excellent expression.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     05 May 2011

don't kill your VOTE-BANK!    ---   ha...ha...ha...

you touched the root cause.


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