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ARAVINDHAN (engineer)     22 September 2013

Empolyer forcing for notice period

Hi

I am currently working in an MNC for more than 1 year. And i am the permanent employee, Due to some personal and family problems i decided to leave. My current notice period is 90 days i cant serve that much duration. At the maximum i can serve up to 45 days.

I am ready to pay the compensation for my notice period, But i need proper reliving letter, I tried to convience my manager but it fails. they are forcing me to serve 90 days

And i could see the below clause in my employment contract regarding termination

This employment can be terminated by either side, by giving one month’s notice during the
probation period or three month’s notice after confirmation or basic salary in lieu of the notice
period. Prior to leaving the company, you will ensure that all your ongoing activities are
successfully completed and properly handed over to the satisfaction of your manager/in
charge/superior. However under no circumstances the relieving period can be less than one (1)
month from the date of acceptance of your resignation.

 

Please advice me how to proceed with this and and also in my team about three months back there was one resignation where the employee was releaved in one month notice but i really don't understand why they are doing like this to me.

And there are also couple of more resignations in the past one month in different verticals where the employees have been relived in one months or 45 days notice

 

Please do guide me i am really frustrated.. i want to leave the orgnaization in good note

 

 



 3 Replies

Kumar Doab (FIN)     22 September 2013

 

What is this establishment: Commercial or Industrial?

 

 

 

You are located in which state and Redg. office of the company is in which state?

What is your designation and nature of duties?

 

Does the condition of 3 month’s notice period and its acceptance by employee also apply to employer if employer initiates termination?

 Can employee ask to serve full notice period ( or say 45 days) if employer insists to terminate the employment in 30 days or 45 days………………….or with immediate effect?

Are you aware of the incidences when employee terminated with immediate effect and did not allow the employee to serve full notice period?

 

The contract of employment should promote equitable discretion or the conditions can be termed arbitrary.

 Any policy in the larger interest and beneficial to both employer and the employee has the sanction of law as otherwise it will be easily termed as arbitrary.

This arbitrary clause hampers your interest in securing another better opportunity when it arises.

It is general law that whenever there is any ambiguity in terms of contract then benefit of doubt will given to party who don’t make the contract.

 

>>>>> The employee should always draft and structure the notice of resignation carefully and submit it preferably by letter thru redg. post. Such resignation/notice should be addressed to good offices of appointing authority, MD…………………..

The more and more employers are applying software/resignation tools to make the line managers stakeholders in acceptance of resignation as till the board of the company authorizes an employee of the company any employee won’t be authorized and competent to accept the resignation.

You have posted that:

 

---------“Due to some personal and family problems i decided to leave.”

 

Employee should mention it as a reason in notice…………………….

“At the maximum i can serve up to 45 days.’

Employee should mention it in notice along with clear last day/date in office.

Prior to leaving the company, you will ensure that all your ongoing activities are
successfully completed and properly handed over to the satisfaction of your manager/in
charge/superior.”

Employee should mention it in notice that all tasks on hand are completed (keep copies of proof) and nothing is pending as on date and from this date till last day/date in office routine duties be assigned that can be completed within and up to last day/date in office………………………and that good offices must ensure that all exit formalities are completed within expiry of notice period/ last day/date in office and all concerned are advised to ensure it.

Employee should also state that acknowledgment and acceptance of notice/resignation be supplied by redg. post immediately and acceptance of resignation, correct FNF statement, payment of FNF dues by bank DD, Form16 as per correct FNF statement, service certificate, relieving letter, PF number/account slips for entire period of service, NOC/NDC etc is supplied within and up to close of office hours of last date in office.

Employee should submit subsequent communication so as to build favorable record in writing, with copy to self.

 

“about three months back there was one resignation where the employee was releaved in one month notice”

“And there are also couple of more resignations in the past one month in different verticals where the employees have been relived in one months or 45 days notice”

 

This should be stated to good offices.

This employment can be terminated by either side, by giving one month’s notice during the
probation period or three month’s notice after confirmation or basic salary in lieu of the notice
period.”

“However under no circumstances the relieving period can be less than one (1)
month from the date of acceptance of your resignation.”

This clause should be referred in notice to good offices and employee may affirm to adjust the notice pay in FNF statement and to supply the FNF statement well in time by redg. post for acceptance.

-------“ But i need proper reliving letter, I tried to convience my manager but it fails. they are forcing me to serve 90 days”

 

This should be stated to good offices. Good offices are and should function as parent within the company.

If there are employee’s group/union/IC/Guild/work’s committee those may be approached, if required.

 

Employee should mention it in notice that all tasks on hand are completed (keep copies of proof) and nothing is pending as on date………………… and that employee is willing to handover the charge, company property under proper acknowledgment on the spot and he may be informed to whom he should handover.

 

Resignation can be without notice and permission.

If the tasks of the resigned employee are completed and properly handed over and nothing is pending there should be no reason that employee is forced to serve full noticed period.

If the tasks of the resigned employee are not properly handed over and employee is unwilling to indemnify the employer for a loss/any loss employer may ask to serve the full notice period.

 

Employer has already stated in appointment letter that;

under no circumstances the relieving period can be less than one (1) month from the date of acceptance of your resignation.”

This implies that one month is sufficient for the employer to put his house in order.

 45 days is more than one month (30 days).

Submit final resignation and state that you have not left any task as unpending and have been approaching all concerned to take charge………………………and are not carrying any property of the company and that you shall not be in a position to attend to office from dated………………..as already reiterated in your communications dated……………..and dated………………..(in person/by email/by letter to Mr/Ms……………..designation………dept……………….name of company…….address………..)

Conclude that you are absenting, abstaining, absconding………………………..hence no such or adverse comments be inserted in service card, personnel file and request to allow to examine your personnel file maintained by the company.

-------“ i want to leave the orgnaization in good note

 

Buying notice period or paying liquidated damages as stated in appointment letter is NOT MISCONDUCT………………………….hence there is nothing corrosive or abnormal at the end of employee. Therefore there should be no adverse entry in personnel file due to this.

Such matters are best put in writing under acknowledgment and POD should be retained.

 

-------“ Please do guide me i am really frustrated.”

You are unnecessarily tormenting yourself.

Employee should apply goodwill, rapport, exceptional levels of persuasion, persistence, negotiation, reasoning skills, adaptability, flexibility and resolve the situation in favor while in employment.

If the line managers/HR are troubling approach good offices.

 

Remain amiable, gentle, and firm.

Do not resort to emotional outbursts.

Majority of the employees do not form and become member of trade unions and are exploited.

If employees are united employers shall also not step on the toes.

 

There are two options:

 

Either submit to the tantrums of the line managers/HR and serve full notice period

 

 

Or

 Resolve the situation in your favor and exit with written record (evidence) favoring you.

 

>>>>> Notice period is part of service conditions and is mentioned in job advertisement, offer letter, standing orders, appointment letter………………………….It should be equitable to the employer and employee.

 

Shops and Commercial Establishments Act applicable to the enactment also states notice period applicable to the employer and employee and it is equitable. It is not more than 1 month.

 

Notice period of more than 1 month is obviously for the benefit of employer and is detrimental to the interest of employee.

 

Standing Orders applicable to the company (certified or Model) shall prevail upon appointment letter. Service conditions stated in appointment letter can not be negated to employee in appointment letter. If notice period is stated as 1 month in standing orders it can not be 3 months in appointment letter.

 

 

If Payment of Wages act is applicable to the company Standing Orders should apply to it.

Notice period is not applicable to as per Model Standing Orders……………………13.                Termination of employment

 

is max. one month.

 

Let your lawyer ask you a set of structured questions and opine whether you would be covered as ‘workman’ as in ID act and/or ‘employee’ as in Shops and Commercial Establishments Act………………….or not !!!

 

It shall be appropriate to show all docs including but not limited to job advertisement, interview call letter, selection letter, offer letter, appointment letter, standing orders applicable to the establishment…………………… The lawyer that has seen all of your docs can advice you the best. 

 

 

ARAVINDHAN (engineer)     23 September 2013

Hi

Thanks for your reply

I am working in Noida and registered office is at New Delhi and it is commercial

 

1.) I did mention in my resignation email that due to personal and family reasons i want to leave

2.) Yes there are cases where employer asked the employee to terminate in short notice, and also not all employees resigning were asked to serve full 90 days notice it varies from reporting manager to manager . And i have also already stated the terms and conditions in my offer of employment .

This employment can be terminated by either side, by giving one month’s notice during the
probation period or three month’s notice after confirmation or basic salary in lieu of the notice
period. Prior to leaving the company, you will ensure that all your ongoing activities are
successfully completed and properly handed over to the satisfaction of your manager/in
charge/superior. However under no circumstances the relieving period can be less than one (1)
month from the date of acceptance of your resignation.

3.) There are total of 9 members in the team including me ( 7 members in noida and two memebers in kolkata), there is no specific tasks to handover because what ever the task i am doing is been also done by those remaining team member as well, basically it is a rotational job 24/7 so any one can handover the tasks easily to other person or any new person who joins.

 

And also there is one more policy statement i could see is following guidelines  which specifically laid out for  resignation process apart from terms and conditions

General Guidelines
• Local employees on Probation are on a 01 month notice & confirmed
employees are on 03 month notice period. The notice period is
applicable on either side or salary in lieu thereof may be considered.
• The accumulated Earned leaves against an employees leave balance
account, are paid to the employee at the time of separation. The notice
period may be set off against balance leave or is deducted as part of Full
& Final statement.
• Waiver of Notice period without adjusting the Earned Leaves from the
company can be considered on the following circumstances :
a) Employee has been working with EIL for more than 5 years and has
been significant contributor with overall good conduct while with EIL
and has supported a good handing over process.
b) Employee has served a minimum of 1.5 months on request from
Reporting Manager to complete certain activities/project work in
hand. Employees serving more than 1.5 months on their own,
should not be considered.
On both the above cases, the approval of Reporting manager/ Unit Head
& HR Business is a mandatory.
Exceptions to the above will be approved by HR
• The last day of work for exiting employee should be agreed by the
Reporting Manager and be documented in the resignation letter or mail
and sent to HR SPOC.
• Dues payable to the employee or any recoveries to be made, shall be
adjusted and a lump sum payment/recovery shall be made. This shall
take into account items like balance Earned Leaves, Notice Period,
Advances, Mobile phones and Salary Payable etc.
• In case company assets are being left behind (incl. Mobile Phones),
these should be tagged to Reporting Manager. These inputs must be
clearly outlined in the Exit Check List.
• No Full & Final activity can be completed without the receipt of
completed “Exit Check List – Local employees”. Thus, before a payment
is made, all the advances or any other outstanding debts should be
cleared. Unless out standings are settled, no money will be paid
whatsoever

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     23 September 2013

It is reiterated that:

“Employee should mention it in notice that all tasks on hand are completed (keep copies of proof) and nothing is pending as on date and from this date till last day/date in office routine duties be assigned that can be completed within and up to last day/date in office………………………and that good offices must ensure that all exit formalities are completed within expiry of notice period/ last day/date in office and all concerned are advised to ensure it.”

You have posted that:

-“there is no specific tasks to handover because what ever the task i am doing is been also done by those remaining team member as well, basically it is a rotational job 24/7 so any one can handover the tasks easily to other person or any new person who joins.

This should be stated to good offices.

-“Yes there are cases where employer asked the employee to terminate in short notice, and also not all employees resigning were asked to serve full 90 days notice

Make a note of names and details of such employees. If the need be quote such precedence’s.

-"i want to leave the orgnaization in good note"

There are two options:

 

 

Either submit to the tantrums of the line managers/HR and serve full notice period

 

 

 

 

 

Or

 

 


 

 Resolve the situation in your favor and exit with written record (evidence) favoring you.

 

 


> You may stake claim to OT if any done by you.

(Claim for overtime should be made within reasonable time. Employer should request/communicate for  and authorize OT)

> The employers shall encash paid leave and adjust notice pay in FNF statement/settlement.

The employer can also adjust notice period/pay against leave.

Employee may request for it and affirm that if not agreed leave be encashed and notice pay is adjusted in FNF statement and form 16 be issued as per correct FNF statement, after reducing the FNF amounts by notice pay.

Employer can also waive of notice period and notice pay too.

Therefore try for it with goof offices.

> Download “Exit Check List – Local employees”, complete it and submit it to good offices, under acknowledgment, affirming that no advance or debt was ever taken, company property (mention details) has been submitted on dated to Mr/Ms………………. hence no amount and no work is pending at the end of employee.

> General Guidelines: b) Employee has served a minimum of 1.5 months on request from
Reporting Manager……………………………..

This should imply that the reporting manager is to request to serve min.1.5 months notice period, hence reporting manager should happily give relieving date of 45 days from date of notice.

> It is stated in appointing letter that in case of a dispute the jurisdiction of courts shall be Delhi, even if employee is located outside Delhi, treating that as if employee was at Delhi………………….

Some companies mention in such manner treating that the controlling office is at location of Redg. office /HO/Corporate Office.

> Commercial Establishments are covered by Shops and Commercial Establishments Act of the state.

--- U.P. Dookan aur Vanijya Adhisthan Adhiniyam, 1962

Section 2. Definitions: (4,6,7,13A,18…..)

Section: 3, 6, 10,11,12, 14, 15, 18, 19,

20: ( If the employee has tendered less notice wages of only 15 days are to be recovered)

30,32,34,35……………….

 

------Delhi Shops and Commercial Establishments Act:

2,3,4,5,8,19,20,21,33,3,5,37,41,

30: NOTICE OF DISMISSAL: 2………………………

(b) Notice or wages in lieu thereof under section 30—When to be given?

A plain reading of section 30 of the Act would make it clear that whereas the notice of one month under sub-section (1) is for the benefit of the employee, the notice under sub- section (2) is for the benefit of the employer.

{ Implies higher notice period is for the benefit of employer}

……………………….just as it is not necessary for an employee who has received notice under sub-section (1) to wait for the full period of one month before quitting the services of the employer.

It shall be appropriate to show all docs including but not limited to job advertisement, interview call letter, selection letter, offer letter, appointment letter, standing orders applicable to the establishment…………………… The lawyer that has seen all of your docs can advice you the best. 

 

 


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