Hi,
Do u think we the people are wasting our time in these yahoo groups, i dont think so. Think about this, after discussing for years in yahoogroups i have started to see the stark difference between whats been reported in the news papers and what we are talking about. So u see, if what we just talked about LAWYERS, if this gets printed in news papers , then there will be major changes in laws or atleast people will know what is important that needs to be changed to reduce crimes.
But since news reporters dont join our groups (which shows what they are there for) we will have to wait for some real patriot reporters to come across our ideas and print them in national news papers; so ineffect we are part responsible for the change. The point is atleast we know what needs to be done and when we get chance we can seize it. Without discussions we would never know what are the solutions to the problems. So the answer to your worry is to first find out for sure what the problems are and the solution to them and then hold people accountable for not implementing them or not printing them in news papers.
- saint scientist
karthickeyan ramanujam <karthickkaru@...> wrote:
Hang means how can we hang?In what way we can hang. Our judicial system is so absurd and wecant expect justice for the layman. We should reconstitute ourjudiciary. There should be renaissance for that. Now thepersons who rule and administrate comes from where and how can wecure this? They really won have ideology and won know about theirduty. How can we rectify?
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From: Logically Genius
WOW,
This is an interesting point; why shouldnt the lawyer not be considered guilty, if he is helping a murderer even after knowing his sin. If any such a laws are passed against the lawyers, Evil will get reduced by half within a week.
Gope Lalwani <gopelalwani@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:Ravinder Singh Says:" But to me the quickest procedure would beto convict the criminals holding top positionsin parliament, executive and most importantlythe judiciary".THE LAWYERS WHO APPEAR IN COURTS FOR THESE CRIMINALS IN SPITE OF KNOWING THE TRUTH SHOULD
ALSO BE ELIMINATED OR THEIR PRACTISING LICENSESCANCELLED.THESE LAWYERS ARE THE PROTECTORS OF CRIME AND
CRIMINALS WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTABILITY.THESE CRIMINAL LAWYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, THE CONTINUED HIGH PROFILE CRIME AND PRESENT STATE OF AFFAIRS TO SOME EXTENT.
Ravinder Singh <progressindia2008@ yahoo.com> wrote:Hang Corrupt Ministers, Bureaucrats & JudgesYesterday was a very eventful day. First Prashant Bhushan organized a seminar on “Securing Judicial Accountability” and later K.C. Agarwal emphasized the need for “New Constitution” that elects qualified professionals.I am not inclined to support piecemeal or baby steps to address the menace of corruption that need giant effort and long term program to introduce new constitution when our problem is India has not convicted high profile criminals in politics, executive and judiciary when they deserved to hanged for treason or high fraud.Criminals let of by judiciary undertake take bigger crimes.But to me the quickest procedure would be to convict the criminals holding top positions in parliament, executive and most importantly the judiciary.When GOI buys Bofors Gun at two three times the market price, as some generals said was good and performed in the battle field but the minister who approved it corrupted and scandalized the Army Of India in matters of purchase of equipments. Such ministers must be hanged. Same goes for Satendra Dubey Murder Case.Likewise judges who fail to convict forgers in Foddar Scam case when it was clear on first sight but actually wanted to “Prolong The Case” to politically keep Laloo Under Check should be hanged.Some of the judges are already in favor of “Hang the Corrupt from the Lamp Post”.Law to provide for special bench for speedy and deterrent punishment under non stop live trial can be introduced.Ravinder Singh October14, 2007Hang The Corrupt Judges First
There is no denying corruption is widespread in India but judiciary is no less corrupt. A law to convict corrupt judges is yet to be introduced.First we have to clean the judiciary that has failed to convict criminals in most of the cases brought before it.When an officer has approved “Fake Documents” or “Incorrectly Recorded Public Works” or “Connived In Selling Properties On Forged Documents”, the courts should come out with judgment in first or second hearings.In the following case one or two fake vouchers in hundred could be tolerable but in fodder scam cases in many times up to 100% documents were fake and forged.Corrupt who mislead courts and file false affidavits should be charged additionally.It is not within the powers of even the Supreme Court to hang corrupt from the lamppost but it is perfectly legal to sanction five years jail term for corruption and two years for false affidavit.The judge who acquitted Manu Sharma and expressed his in ability to convict him is promoted to the High Court against the unprecedented opposition of the President.How a person unfit for Sessions Court is considered suitable for High Court?Ravinder Singh March09, 2007Hang the corrupt, fumes Supreme Court
[8 Mar, 2007 0251hrs IST TIMES NEWS NETWORK]NEW DELHI: Bihar 's fodder scam case may be stuck in the tortuous legal process but the multi-crore loot of public money involving influential politicians still manages to get the judiciary's goat.
This was evident when the bail petition of one of the government officials convicted in the case came up before the Supreme Court.
"Everyone wants to loot this country. The only deterrent is to hang a few corrupt persons from the lamp post," said a Bench comprising Justices S B Sinha and Markandey Katju, which was hearing a bail petition filed by fodder scam accused Braj Bhushan Prasad, convicted by the trial court.
Justice Katju, from whom the remarks flowed, was aware of the limitation of the court in view of the rule of law that governed the country. "The law does not permit us to do it, but otherwise we would prefer to hang the corrupt," he said.
To lessen the ire of the Bench against his client, counsel R Singh said that Prasad was a mere pawn in the big game as he was only a budget accounts officer.
It failed to impress the court. Justice Katju continued in the same vein and said that as budget accounts officer, he was supposed to keep track of the spending but he had abdicated his duties as alleged by the prosecution.
Such was the anger of the Bench that it not only dismissed Prasad's bail plea but refused to accede to his request for a direction to the Jharkhand High Court for early disposal of his appeal against conviction in the fodder scam case.
Bhushan was sentenced to five years' imprisonment by a special court in Jharkhand.