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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     06 August 2010

WHAT IS THE REASON, LOGIC, BEHIND THE MAINTENANCE POLICY?

WHAT IS THE REASON, LOGIC, BEHIND THE MAINTENANCE POLICY?

I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT THE LAW. IT IS KNOWN TO US.

I UNDERSTOOD THE REASON & LOGIC BEHIND THE MAINTENANCE OF CHILDREN.

WE DO NOT COMPALE TO MAINTAIN THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

WHY SPOUSES COMPALE TO MAINTAIN ONE OTHER, - THE REASON;  - THE LOGIC.



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(Guest)

Arup ji,

A minor suggestion
1. Small caps please while writing posts, readers are still young in LCI base and specky here less we all can read small caps so to speak.


Now, a hint to reply to your this post
1. Kindly refer to my files section and click on Logic behind filing S. 125 CrPC by Hindu wife !


Now you may comment reason, logic behind filing a civil maint. becuase I covered the criminal maintenence part via my above file post and "intent" "reasoning" behind civil and criminal maintenance are totally different but are based on overlapping same societal causes but procedure wise slotted in a particular Code or Act that is all is what I feel is where the difference lies.

I stand open for further correction of this post reply.

Rgds.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     02 September 2010

Sub: ‘why maintenance to an able bodied spouse?’

Now I have no doubt that, maintenance is the centre point of all most all matrimonial disputes. Though the thread question is, WHAT IS THE REASON, LOGIC, BEHIND THE MAINTENANCE POLICY?

 But my intention was to ask ‘why maintenance to an able bodied spouse?’  The maintenance of an able bodied spouse is in question.

The acts in this regard, are available in

(1) H.A.M.A. (2) H.M.A. (3) S.M.A. (4) C.P.C. (5) Acts on Mohamed an and Christian marriages.

Among these acts the first and foremost is, THE HINDU ADOPTIONS AND MAINTENANCE ACT, 1956. ACT NO. 78 OF 1956. The concerned sections are 18 to 28. Headings are as follows:-

 

Sections

Subjects

18

Maintenance of wife.

19

Maintenance of widowed daughter-in-law.

20

Maintenance of children and aged parents

21

Dependants defined

22

Maintenance of dependents

23

Amount of maintenance

24

Claimant to maintenance should be a Hindu

25

Amount of maintenance may be altered on change of circumstances

26

Debts to have priority

27

Maintenance when to be a charge

28

Effect of transfer of property on right to maintenance

 


(Guest)

@Arup

It is the most fundamental question.

please read 'The Manifesto of the Communist Party(1847) by Marx and Engels.

Man is consistent exploiter of woman. He is stock sinner.So he must pay.

This is communism not indology.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

I also like communism, but not in to-to.

i dislike the prescripttion of marx, where he advocated for blood sheding to capture the power.

he could not understand, better to say, failed to understand - the power of democracy,

it was understood by gandhiji and showed us, better to say, the world - the right path.

one day a tiger captured a young goat, the goat asked the tiger - why are you going to kill me?

the tiger answred - twenty years ago when i drink water, you make my drinking water muddy.

the young goat said,- it might be my grandfather, but not myslf, because, i am only five years old.

the tiger - so what? you will be killed for your grand father's sin.

WE ALL KNOW THIS STORY.

" Man is consistent exploiter of woman. He is stock sinner.So he must pay. "

YOUR THIS PORTION REMIND ME THE STORY.

IT IS NOT MARXISM, - I AM WELL CONVERSANT WITH IT.

 

 


(Guest)

@Arup

There is nothing wrong in revisiting Marx and Engels/women's emancipation.

Is C= c+v+s correct according to you?

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

Is C= c+v+s correct according to you?

please let it clear.

you may discuss here marx and angles.

no problem to me.


(Guest)

C= c+v+s is the soul of Marxism.

C=Market price/capital

c=constant capital

v=variable capital

s=surplus value

This formula has been repeated abundantly and lavishly in Das Capital.

Trust, your memory is refreshed.

 

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

MARX EXPLAINED THE MATTER AS HE LIKES.

ACTUALLY IT IS UNSCIENTIFIC.


(Guest)

thanks. In fact, Marxism is an ideology of jealousy. The under current of maintenance is-You have enjoyed the woman.so you will have to pay.According to Marxism all women are prostitutes(See the Manifesto of the Communist Party(1847) by Marx and Engels.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

C= c+v+s

C=Market price/capital

IT IS MARKET PRICE. NOT CAPITAL

c=constant capital; v=variable capital; s=surplus value

PROFIT NAMED AS SURPLUS VALUE BY MARX.

ACCORDING TO YOU, ( MARX)

Market price = constant capital + variable capital + surplus value

THIS EUATION EQUALLY FAILED AS THE CAPITALIST THEORY OF DEMAND AND SUPPLY.

BOTH ARE UNSCIENTIFIC.

GIVING AN EXAMPLE HERE.

A FISH SALER SALING HIS FISH. YOU ASK HIM - WHAT IS THE PRICE? HE ANSWERED - RS NINTY. YOU PURCHASE AND GO BACK. THEREAFTER I WENT TO THAT FISH SALER AND ASK THE PRICE, HE REPLIED - HUNDRED RUPEES. I PURCHASED AND LEFT THE PLACE.

 

WHICH FORMULA SATISFIED THE FISH SALERS ACTION?

MARX OR CAPITALISM?

 

THIS THINGS (ACT OF THE FISH SALER) ARE VERY FAMILAR TO US.

BY OUR PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE WE KNOW BOTH THE THEORIES ARE FAILED.

NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY THEORY, PLEASE SUBMIT.

 

 

 

 

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

both the formulas are based on some assumption and imagination.

that is the reason of their failure.


(Guest)

LOL.But it is still working in awarding maintenance in India.

"I also like communism, but not in to-to".This you say. I vehemently contradicted Marxians even when I was an under graduate.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 September 2010

"In fact, Marxism is an ideology of jealousy."

 - why jelous?

can a failure  be a cause to proud, any body?

 

"You have enjoyed the woman.so you will have to pay."

 - this theory also can not subsit. both man and woman enjoyed one other. then why man only? for you kind information the act already fixed the reason. i shall explain it in a latter stage.

"According to Marxism all women are prostitutes(See the Manifesto of the Communist Party(1847) by Marx and Engels."

- no, it is not written in the said manifesto. it is available in net also.

on that time communists and feminist worked shoulder to shoulder.


(Guest)

"You have enjoyed the woman.so you will have to pay."

'"- this theory also can not subsit. both man and woman enjoyed one other. then why man only?'"

Do the judges understaand your logic? Nay.


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