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Prakash   27 September 2019

regarding nomination

Requesting elite members to advise on following matter.
Employee nominates his father for ESI, PF, Insurance at the time of joining. Gets married thereafter but does not change nomination. He passed away due to some illness. Now spouse and his father both are asking for benefits.
My view- it is spouse who will get this. She need to provide marriage certificate or a succession certificate.


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SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     28 September 2019

The nomination is not a Will of the deceased. Nomination is in the nature of a Trust, where the nominee is appointed as Trustee to dispose of the estate of the deceased.  In the instant case, Wife has every right to contest and seek to share inthe estate of the Deceased. Further, Banks or ESI/PF authorities do not settle the amount once the matter is contested.  However, Wife has to produce proof of her being the wife of the Deceased and other documents as called for by the authorities concerned relating to Claim Settlement.

 

I repeat to reiterate that the Nominee gets no better title than the Survivors of the Deceased. He is only a Trustee in which capacity it is his/her "responsibility" to dispose of the assets equitably as per the norms applicable to the Succession Act applicable to their Religion.

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G.L.N. Prasad (Retired employee.)     28 September 2019

The employer's duty is to settle the funds in favour of nominee only in absence of any court orders, and those legal heirs that approached may be advised either to settle with the nominee or get a stay order as expeditiously as possible against settlement in favour of the nominee.  It is not the employer's duty to seek any documents and settle the claim and it should always be through the court.

P. Venu (Advocate)     28 September 2019

It is a moot question whether the nomination survives after the employee has married.

SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     28 September 2019

Once a nomination is given, it does not change depending upon an event of the person giving such nomination. Marriage does not affect the nomination already given. Husband or Wife has to necessarily change the earlier nomination in favour of the spouse if they so wish. Otherwise, previous nomination stands.

SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     28 September 2019

However, as already stated above, the nomination is not changed and the husband passed away. Wife claims the share. It is the responsibility of Nominee in the capacity of Trustee of the estate of the deceased (being the nominee) to give such share as per the law applicable to them.

P. Venu (Advocate)     29 September 2019

I would hasten to add that the proposition as above may be appropriate in respect of a bank account, an employer can afford to take, and in my considered opinion, ought to take a more pro-active view.

The relation and interaction between a bank and its customer is more or less impersonal. Moreover, except in rare cases, the stakes involved in handing over the funds to the nominee of the customer who has passed away is not substantial.

But not so the relation between an employer and the employee. And the stakes involved are critical in as much as the benfits payble to the past employee constitute, in most cases, the only means  for the widowed lady and the  children to survive. The extant rules governing PF and pension mandate that the nominations are invalid once the employee acquires a family. And, parents could be considered to be "family" only if they are dependent on the deceased employee. Moreover, the father of the deceased employee is not among the Class I legal heirs.

As such, in my considered view, it would be poor and lazy HR policy for the employer to disburse or pass over the benefits to the nominee and advise the distraught wifeof the deceaed employee to indulge in litgation with the adament father-in-law.

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G.L.N. Prasad (Retired employee.)     29 September 2019

@P.Venu.  Absolutely true.  But can any HR executive take an independent decision and pay the proceeds to living spouse, ignoring the legitimate claim of Nominee?  No one dares to bell the cat.   I heard other versions in several cases, that the benefits are self-acquired, and as parents supported him, and as employee's wife is an earning member, the deceased employee retained the nomination in his mother's name even after his marriage.  It depends on circumstances and now after introducing computerization in HRD records, there should be an automatic reminder after registering the marriage as to whether he prefers to change the nomination or not ?. Followed by another reminder for records.  Hope this generation of reminders may solve the issue.

SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     29 September 2019

Normally, every spouce especially Husband changes the nomination favouring better half. In the rare event such change does not take place immediately after marriage and the husband passes away, the amount payable shall not be too big an amount. If a husband not changed nomination even after considerable service, we cannot thrust the responsibility, of altering the nomination in favour of wife violating an existing nomination favouring Parents, on HR Department which surely entangles thems into litigation from Parents. Suppose, the deceased left a proper Will, can we act as we like violating the privisions of such Will in the name of so called progressive view!? It would amount to taking the law into our hands. Lawyers should only interpret the laws, but not change the law in the process. Rules of Nomination remain same be it bank, be it employer, amount high or low. Such leverage is not given in the rules governing Nomination. In the instant case, everything depends on the family. They should work out an amicable settlement among themselves and should not go to Court in which case it would take several years to get a Judgement which again is open for appeals. Meanwhile everybody suffers for want of the amount in litigation.
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G.L.N. Prasad (Retired employee.)     29 September 2019

There are many cases where parents borrowed huge amounts from Banks for education and for sending abroad and due to sudden demise of children, at that age they are left abandoned when the wife (newly wed) claim all such amounts including insurance etc.

H.M.Patnaik (Proprietor)     30 September 2019

From the above deliberation of the learned Experts, it is observed that in the given situation as per prevalent law , the nominee will be the rightful receipent of all dues payable to a deceased employee irrespective of the real life condition. So, Govt. should insert a condition in the Nomination form that if the marital status of an employee undergoesany change during the course of employment , it is imperative upon the employee to effect necessary changes in the nomination recorded with his employer within a week of such change to rationalise the situation.

SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     30 September 2019

Patnaik Jee, I will give you a scenario. Parents are just a middle class with some assets. They got their Son educated with a lot of difficulties and taking loans including a loan from the bank for which their house is under the mortgage. The Son got a good job with very good salary. Father is the only earning member, his retirement and Son getting job almost coincided. Son got married to his colleague after working in the job for about 5-6 years. The Daughter in Law is having an equal salary and her parents are well off and belong to the upper-middle-class category.    Poor fellow son died in an accident just a few months from marriage. According to your suggestion, what shall happen?

 

Under no circumstances, I am trying to argue that once the nominee gets the money ( in the instant case where the forum was asked to respond) he should dupe the other natural claimants. It is expected under the Nomination I repeat, that the Nominee acts like a Trustee. And when there is a dispute and one of the other claimants objects for the money to be given to Nominee, the Nomination has come to an end. What the Government thought that without much hassle one of the family members get the money(without entangling themselves in paperwork to get this paper, that paper, that Certificate, that declaration etc) and such family member (Nominee) shall be good enough to act as a Trustee to that money and shall not try to benefit himself only. If the nomination is not contested, the payment goes through and if it is contested, the nomination is no longer valid.

 

If I remember correctly only in the case of a person without any family at the time of giving nomination, such a person can give his nomination in favor of any person he/she likes. However, once he/she gets married, such nomination shall forthwith become invalid.  And such Employee should give nomination in favor of his family. In all other cases, the last nomination stands irrespective of the fact whether the person got married after giving nomination.

Arguments can be made both ways whether the nomination can be changed and decided in favor of the weakest among the claimants when there is counterclaims. But who decides! The Employer?  Banks? Impossible. 

Can anybody give some law contrary to our Indian Law on Nomination is prevalent anywhere in the world?

G.L.N. Prasad (Retired employee.)     30 September 2019

The nomination is not final, there is a separate prescribed form for changing the name of a nominee, and any number of times nomination can be made..  Only in the case of post office, first time I have seen that nominee has to give percentages and names of nominees for distribution.  In Banks, a nomination is permitted only in one name, and by making prescribed application previous nominee name can be canceled and fresh nominee's name can be recorded.

SIVARAMAPRASAD KAPPAGANTU (Retired Manager)     30 September 2019

That's Okay Prasad Garu. In the instant case, there is one Nomination and there is a claim against the estate from Wife who is not Nominee.

  1. What the Employer should do now
  2. Or the Nominee should do
  3. Or the Wife should do

Are the questions within the ambit of the existing law, without mixing the issue with some reformist thinking.

G.L.N. Prasad (Retired employee.)     30 September 2019

Sir,

The law makers considered all this, and  the change of nomination enables for such changes in future, it is left to the concerned to change the nomination as he likes.  People has to get awareness on such stipulations and the nomination was there in LIC since it's inception.  The problems may be in 1% alone, and in case of employees, it is deemed that his benefits are self acquired, and he can nominate any one as he likes and it need not be only wife or his legal heirs alone.  There is no law that sates that self acquired property should go to wife alone. A nomination has to be treated as a will.


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