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CommonMann (Software Professional)     02 October 2010

Any Idea?

Any idea where this word DOWRY (DAHEJ) came from? Which Bhagwan or God created this. Who created this

dracanion word which invokes section 498a IPC in the hands of some corrupted women.  Any views on this?



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(Guest)

no god can invoke dowry....god promotes love...not exploitation by one party

 

dowry is man made custom... only man can remove it...

 

while god punishes those who demand it...some culprits get punished in same lifetime when they have to pay 5 times more alimony to the genuine victim or get arrested,

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(Guest)

 ACC TO WIKI:

A dowry (also known as trousseau or tocher or, in Latin, dos, or in Croatian and Slovenian, dota) is the money, goods, or estate that a woman brings to her husband in marriage.[1] It contrasts with bride price, which is paid to the bride's parents, and dower, which is property settled on the bride herself by the groom at the time of marriage. The same culture may simultaneously practice both dowry and bride price. Dowry is an ancient custom, and its existence may well predate records of it.

History

Originally, the purpose of a dowry was to provide "seed money" or property for the establishment of a new household, to help a husband feed and protect his family, and to give the wife and children some support if he were to die.[2] A husband thus had certain property rights in his wife's dowry. In addition, the wife might bring to the marriage property of her own, which was not included in the dowry and which was, as a result, hers alone. This property was "beyond the dowry" (Greek: parapherna, the root of paraphernalia) and was known as paraphernal property or extra-dotal property.[3]

Even in the oldest available records, such as the Code of Hammurabi, the dowry is described as an already-existing custom. Regulations surrounding the custom include: the wife being entitled to her dowry at her husband's death as part of her dower, her dowry being inheritable only by her own children, not by her husband's children by other women, and a woman not being entitled to a (subsequent) inheritance if her father had provided her dowry in marriage. If a woman died without sons, her husband had to refund the dowry but could deduct the value of the bride price; the dowry would normally have been the larger of the sums.[4]

One of the basic functions of a dowry has been to serve as a form of protection for the wife against the possibility of ill treatment by her husband and his family.[citation needed] In other words, the dowry provides an incentive to the husband not to harm his wife.

[edit] In Europe

Dowry was widely practiced in Europe. In Homeric times, the usual Greek practice was to give a brideprice. Dowries were exchanged in the later classical time (5th century BC). Ancient Romans also practiced dowry, though Tacitus notes that the Germanic tribes practiced the reverse custom of the dower.

Failure to provide a customary, or agreed-upon, dowry could cause a marriage to be called off. William Shakespeare made use of such an event in King Lear: one of Cordelia's wooers ceased to woo her on hearing that King Lear will give her no dowry. In Measure for Measure, Claudio and Juliet's premarital s*x was brought about by their families' wrangling over dowry after the betrothal. Angelo's motive for forswearing his betrothal with Mariana was the loss of her dowry at sea.

Folklorists often interpret the fairy tale Cinderella as the competition between the stepmother and the stepdaughter for resources, which may include the need to provide a dowry. Gioachino Rossini's opera La Cenerentola makes this economic basis explicit: Don Magnifico wishes to make his own daughters' dowry larger, to attract a grander match, which is impossible if he must provide a third dowry.[5]

One common penalty for the kidnapping and rape of an unmarried woman was that the abductor or rapist had to provide the woman's dowry. Until the late 20th century this was sometimes called wreath money, or the breach of promise. (See raptio and bride kidnapping.)

Providing dowries for poor women was regarded as a form of charity by wealthier parishioners. The custom of Christmas stockings springs from a legend of St. Nicholas, in which he threw gold in the stockings of three poor sisters, thus providing for their dowries. St. Elizabeth of Portugal and St. Martin de Porres were particularly noted for providing such dowries, and the Archconfraternity of the Annunciation, a Roman charity dedicated to providing dowries, received the entire estate of Pope Urban VII. As the French crown provided dowries for many of the women persuaded to travel to New France for marriages and settlement there, they were known as filles du roi (daughters of the king).

In some parts of Europe, especially Eastern Europe, land dowries were common. In the County of Bentheim, for instance, parents who had no sons might give a land dowry to their new son-in-law. It was commonly given with the condition that he take the surname of his bride, in order to continue the family name.

The Domostroy, a Russian advice book of the sixteenth century, includes advice to set aside property for purposes of a dowry, and use it accumulate linens, clothings, and other things for it, rather than have to suddenly buy it all for the wedding; if the daughter should happen to die, the dowry should be used to give alms and for prayers for her soul, although some might be set aside for other daughters.[6]

The Portuguese crown gave two cities as dowry to the British Crown in 1661 when King Charles II of England, Scotland and Ireland married Catherine of Braganza, a princess of Portugal. They were Mumbai (Bombay) in India and Tangier in Morocco.

In Victorian England, dowries were seen among the upper class as an early payment of the daughter's inheritance. Only daughters who had not received their dowries were entitled to part of the estate when their parents died. If a couple died without children, the woman's dowry was returned to her family.[7]

In some cases, nuns were required to bring a dowry when joining a convent.[Citation?]

[edit] In Asia

Dowry is a common practice in many Asian countries, including Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. In India, where incidents of bride burning and dowry death acquired notoriety, the payment of a dowry has been prohibited under The 1961 Dowry Prohibition Act in Indian civil law and subsequently by Sections 304B and 498a of the Indian Penal Code (IPC).


Dowry in the upper classes is also popular as Trousseau that is given away to the bride to wish her luck and help her settle into her new home using goods of utility, luxury. Electronic items like refrigerators, television and washing machines are given by the bride's parents as part of a ceremony along with clothes, jewelry, shoes and accessories. There is a huge industry around Indian weddings for the privileged and rich who spend money on gifting these items with fanfare and pompous show. In fact, the art of gift packing is called Trousseau Packing. Dowry system is seen as a crime in India but even the most educated people in Indian society support it and harass brides for not satisfying dowry demands.[8]In recent years there allegedly has been a rise in dowry deaths even when law enforcing organizations claim that the situation is under control.[9][10]

CommonMann (Software Professional)     02 October 2010

@ Girl I think u r frustrated and you have not read my question carefully. I want to know who is the 1st person when this word DOWRY was created. and FYI..Almost most of the the innocent men and there family get arrested if 498a is invoked and not 5 times they have to pay a lot to finish this case bcoz they dont want to drag case unnecessary in court. This is now a business for some mean, corrupted and culprit women.
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(Guest)

Wow! Very good interpretation by GIRL .

God promotes love.

Dowry is man made custom.

God punishes those who demand it.

In real situation ,god punish or not  its a question ?

In court ,court punish or not its question ?

But we all prey to god to punish those who demand it.

and we fight in a court to do justice ,to punish those who demand it.

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(Guest)

Any idea where this word DOWRY (DAHEJ) came from? Which Bhagwan or God created this. Who created this dracanion word

 

dear mr. "refined and polite" hora jee

the way u put up the above lines,this is wot anyone wud infer.

 

if u were focussing on "corrupt 498A women" then ur question shud have been"

"who created the draconian 498A section coz of which "innocent men like me"get arrested?

 

so mind ur words...


(Guest)

Your question is where this word DOWRY (DAHEJ) came from?

Your answer is dowries have a long history in Europe, South Asia, Africa, and other parts of the world.

You asked a funny question  Which Bhagwan or God created this.God created human. GIRL rightly said that dowry is manmade(Jab Admi mad ho jata hai to dowry magta hai .Men including men and her relatives) custom.

There after you said to GIRL “ I want to know who is the 1st person when this word DOWRY was created.” You are contradicting to yourself. So, who is frustrated?

Secondly the GIRL said God promotes love.

Dowry is man made custom.( She does not know where this word comes from )

God punishes those who demand it.

 

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CommonMann (Software Professional)     02 October 2010

@ Girl...I know what to put in....this for all the innocent men...who are harassed in the way of 498a ....in the hands of some cruel women.....and I know God has created love...and we are the creation of God....but some creatures are misusing...the law...which is bad for any society....


(Guest)

ok good....

did u get the answer now?


(Guest)

Now you agree with the GIRL statements.( You said “I know God has created love...and we are the creation of God.”)   Just thanks to GIRL.

You said that we are the creation of God....but some creatures are misusing...the law...which is bad for any society.

So, what we have to do. We have to capture those creatures and abandon those creatures in a jungle. Or  destroy those creatures.

And there after our Indian society is free from evils.

Societies need to have one illness which becomes identified with evil, and attaches blame to its "victims."”

Evil cannot be "treated" -- nor should it be. Evil has to [be] confronted and destroyed and it matters not why the evil is in play. Society has no obligation to try to rehabilitate evil.

CommonMann (Software Professional)     03 October 2010

So that means this tradition is there in foreign countries too....its strange..but there is no such laws are implemented there for punishment...like in India....some culprits are misusing this law...this is very sad.....


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