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Chatriyan (Engineer)     26 December 2013

Writ petition tracing in high court

We were told by by our Lawyer,he needs to file a writ in high court,he got  6 blank stamp papers signed,he has used one paper as if he has paid back entire money.threatening to use other blank stamp papers.how to restrain him from using those papers with malafied intention further .

If he has filed the writ ,we don,t know the number. How to trace the number.



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T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate (Advocate)     27 December 2013

I think you have been taken fora good ride by your lawyer in the name of some fictitious thing called writ, what is the reason for filing a writ, have you asked your lawyer to do so?,I think you may have to be very careful handling with the issues with your lawyer, of course the signatures on the blank paper will not hold any legal grounds for all his claims,but to avoid problems that may arise, you may lodge a complaint in writing with the full details and particulars against your lawyer in the jurisdictional Bar council.

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     27 December 2013

DEAR MR. QURIST                                                                                                                                                                                TRACING A WRIT PETITION IN THE HIGH COURT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW UNDER WHAT SECTION YOUR WRIT PETITION WAS FILED . YOU CANNOT TRACE OUT BY YOUR NAME AS THE PETITIONER SINCE THERE ARE VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS UNDER WHICH ANY ORDER CAN BE CHALLENGED . WRIT PETITION IS UNDER ARTICLE 226 AND 227 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA IN WHICH EITHER A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT MUST BE THE RESPONDENT . IN APPEAL FROM THE ORDERS OF A TRIBUNAL , SOME ADVOCATES INCLUDE THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE TRIBUNAL AS THE 1ST RESPONDENT AND SOME DON'T INCLUDE THE PRESIDING OFFICER . IF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IS INVOLVED , THEN DIFFERENT ARTICLE WILL BE USED . YOU EXPLAIN YOUR CASE SO THAT MANY IN THE FORUM WILL TELL YOU TO LOOK UNDER WHICH SECTION YOU MUST TRACE . BUT FOR EVERYTHING , YOU MUST HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE HIGH COURT TO HELP YOU OUT .

                    REGARDING WHAT MR. KALAISELVAN HAD OPINED ABOUT COMPLAINING TO THE BAR ASSOCIATION IS CORRECT . BUT IT IS DOUBTFUL WHETHER YOU WILL GET A GOOD RESPONSE FROM THERE IS A QUESTION . NORMALLY ADVOCATES WILL NOT DO LIKE THAT .NOW A DAYS EVEN OUTSIDERS WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THE BAR NOR A ADVOCATE ARE THERE IN THE HIGH COURT . SOME INSTANCES HAD COME IN THE NEWS PAPERS ALSO ABOUT SUCH MATTERS . EVEN IF HE IS AN ADVOCATE , IF YOU LODGE A COMPLAINT , THEN HE MAY SAY THAT YOU HAVE NOT PAID THE FEES FOR THE WORK DONE BY HIM AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY HE DID NOT FILE THE CASE . TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THROUGH OTHERS AND PAY WHAT HE DEMANDS AND GET YOUR PAPERS . - JOSEPH WILFRED - 27/12/2013 AT 19.46 HRS. 

Chatriyan (Engineer)     28 December 2013

Ok,let me elaborate on this issue.It was Temple land which does not come under HRCE,The land belongs to lawyers maternal Grand Father,they wanted to sell the land to rebuild the temple from the land proceedings.The Lawyers client accepted to buy the land after too much persuasion.Initially the lawyer tell's the client to go in for power purchase but the Client preferred to go in for full agreement ,the same was registered in the sub registers office.after two weeks there was letter from registers office stating,the registration is held due to clearance from HRCE.then the same was sighted to the lawyer,He told his client He file a writ in high court and get clearance for the registration.to file the writ he gets 7 Blank Stamp papers from the client stating .He will fill the content by consulting with lawyer friends and file the writ,believing this the client signs in the blank paper.In mean time when the lawyer was approached what is the writ file number and the case history.He starts to dodge and at one stage his behavior turns to be threatening.The Lawyer has taken all the principal documents in the disguise of fielding the writ and the client is left with only Xerox copies,The Clint approaches another lawyer who tells him to file a case with District SP and it goes for enquiry and the culprit Lawyer turns with his own wordings on the blank signed stamp paper.He had settled all the money long before .If the client further proceeds with this case he has threatened to file a case that  the client is harassing to exhort money from him and also use other blank signed stamp papers against him.How to recover the money from him and not letting him misuse the Blank signed stamp papers.

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     28 December 2013

DEAR MR. CHATRIYAN

                                     WHAT YOU HAVE STATED IS A FRAUD PLAYED ON YOU BY THE ADVOCATE. THE PROPERTY DOCUMENT YOU HAVE REGISTERED IN THE SUB REGISTRAR'S OFFICE IS BEING    " WITHHELD " BY THE SUB REGISTRAR SINCE THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN TAKEN OVER BY HR&CE OF THE GOVERNMENT . HE MUST BE HAVING THE OLD DOCUMENT BEFORE TAKING OVER OF THE PROPERTY BY THE GOVERNMENT . DID YOU NOT VERIFY THE EBCUMBRANCE CRTIFICATE BEFORE BUYING THE PROPERTY . YOU WILL NOT GET THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT . IT IS IMPOUNDED .THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE ADVOCATE HAD TAKEN YOUR SIGNATURES ON A STAMP PAPER ON THE PRETEXT OF FILING A WRIT PETITION . YOU ARE AN EDUCATED PERSON . DON'T YOU KNOW THAT FOR FILING ANY PETITION AND THAT TOO WRIT PETITION , NO STAMP PAPER IS NEEDED . NOW PLEASE TELL ME THAT " WHO SIGNED THE SALE DEED TRANSFERRING THE PROPERTY  IN YOUR NAME IN THE SUB REGISTRAR'S OFFICE . YOU CANNOT GET EVEN A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE DOCUMENT SINCE IT IS IMPOUNDED. THE OTHER ADVOCATE WHO HAD ADVISED YOU TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE POLICE IS CORRECT .  FROM WHICH STATE YOU ARE WRITING THIS QUERY . IF IT IS A CITY , THEN GIVE A COMPLAINT TO THE POLICE COMMISSIONER ABOUT WHAT THAT ADVOCATE HAD DONE . AFTER GIVING THE COMPLAINT , GET A RECEIPT FOR YOUR COMPLAINT .EVEN IF THE ADVOCATE SAYS THAT HE HAD RETURNED YOUR MONEY , GETTING A DOCUMENT REGISTERED IS AN OFFENCE . SEND A COPY OF THE COMPLAINT WITH A COVERING LETTER , TO THE JOINT COMMISSIONER OF POLICE AND INSPECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE OF THAT ZONE AND TO THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE OF YOUR STATE " BY SPEED POST WITH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT DUE "  . WAIT FOR 15 DAYS OR A MAXIMUM 30 DAYS .IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE POLICE THEN WE CAN APPROACH THE HIGH COURT FOR A DIRECTION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACT ON YOUR COMPLAINT . - JOSEPH WILFRED - 28/12/2013 AT 20.57 HRS.

Chatriyan (Engineer)     29 December 2013

The culprit lawyer created such a goodwill with the client,He is God fearing person and son of School teacher.when the document was registered ,It had encumbrance certificate in his grand fathers name,2.The land had patta in his grand fathers name,3. RTI query was raised to HRCE and it had reply from Head cleark stating the Temple land was not in Direct control of HRCE.

The client believed truly,the land is being sold for constructing the temple.When Sub Registrar sent a letter to HRCE for clearance,It was told to stop the registration till they get further advice.In meantime only the said lawyer told the Unsuspecting client.In order to clear this hurdle. He needs to file a Writ in High Court,by this pretext he told the client first to withdraw the registration Document from Sub Registars office and also signed blank stamp papers.

As Said above when the client asked about the writ petition number ,The lawyer who is involved in this (since the concerned culprit lawyer told he is a standing central council)and the status,He started dodging and finally threatening .

The client belived ,the stamp papers(blank signed) has been utilized to file the writ,but in actual He has used that to prepare a receipt to show ,He has already returned the money and the Registration was cancelled,further more He has threatened to use other blank signed stamp papers against the client, if he were to further Purdue the case(what a kind of lawyer,who deceives his own client for the sake of easy money).

The Client though Educated Does not know that for filing writ no stamp papers are required,moreover He belived fully in the culprit lawyer,that is why he has been taken for a ride as mentioned by Kalaiselvan and your self ,The General Public and the society how it has to survive with these kind of Lawyers.The behavior of this Lawyer makes society to loose faith on all the lawyers wether good or Bad.

The Black sheep Lawyers needed to be weeded out by Lawyers fraternity otherwise.They will what ever opportunity to cheat the unsuspecting common man .

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     30 December 2013

DEAR MR. CHATRIYAN

                                        AS I HAVE TOLD YOU THAT LAND HAD BEEN TAKEN AWAY BY THE HR&CE DEPARTMENT AND THEY MUST HAVE NOTIFIED IT IN THE GOVERNMENT GAZETTE IS CORRECT . THEY COULD HAVE SENT A COPY OF THE NOTIFICATION TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF REGISTRATION OF THE STATE CONCERNED . NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS COMPUTERIZED THEY COULD HAVE INCORPORATED THIS IN THE COMPUTER FROM THEIR OFFICE ITSELF. WHO APPLIED FOR THE ENCUMBRANCE CERTIFICATE FOR THIS PROPERTY . IF THE ADVOCATE HAD APPLIED FOR IT , THEN HE WOULD HAVE OMITTED THE PERIOD WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS TAKEN OVER BY THE GOVERNMENT . IF THE ENCUMBRANCE CERTIFICATE IS TILL DATE , THEN YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE DETAILS . THE SUB REGISTRAR WILL NOT CHECK IT WHEN THE DOCUMENT IS REGISTERED . BUT WHEN HE UPLOADS THE SAME IN THE COMPUTER , THEN HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE FACT . YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE SUB REGISTRAR HAD WRITTEN TO THE HR&CE DEPARTMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED A REPLY ALSO FROM THE DEPARTMENT . SO THE DETAILS ARE THERE IN THE COMPUTER IN THE SUB REGISTRAR'S OFFICE .NOW DON'T WASTE TIME . IMMEDIATELY DRAFT A GOOD COMPLAINT EXPLAINING ALL THE DETAILS AND KEEP A COPY OF WHAT ARE ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE .  DON'T KEEP OR SHOW TO ANYBODY IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ORIGINALS . KEEP A ATTESTED COPY OF THE DOCUMENT . EVEN IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE GOVERNMENT ASK YOU FOR THE ORIGINALS IF ANY YOU HAVE , TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE WITH THE SENIOR COUNSEL WHO DRAFTED THE COMPLAINT FOR YOU AND IT WILL BE PRODUCED ONLY IN THE COURT . THIS IS A CRIMINAL CASE . SO THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE PRODUCED ONLY DURING CROSS EXAMINATION AND IT WILL BE MARKED AS PROSECUTION EVIDENCE .I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU TO WHOM YOU SHOULD SEND THE COMPLAINT . YOU INCLUDE IN THAT THE SECRETARY TO GOVERNMENT HR&CE DEPARTMENT , GOVERNMENT OF XXXXXX . YOU NEED NOT HAND OVER ANY OF THE COMPLAINT PERSONALLY . BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT GET A RECEIPT FOR THAT . YOU SEND ALL THE COPIES OF YOUR COMPLAINT TO EVERY AUTHORITY  BY SPEED POST WITH PROOF OF DELIVERY . IF YOU HAVE THE CHIEF MINISTER'S CELL IN YOUR STATE, THEN SEND A COPY WITH A COVERING LETTER ADDRESSED TO THE CHIEF MINISTER . IN TAMIL NADU WE HAVE SUCH A CELL . RESPONSE WILL BE PROMPT IN OUR STATE . REST I WILL TELL YOU AS AND WHEN THE SITUATION ARISES. BUT YOU DO THIS IMMEDIATELY SINCE YOU HAVE PURCHASED A PROPERTY OF THE GOVERNMENT . THEY SHOULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON YOU . BEFORE THAT YOU MUST ACT FAST AND YOUR COMPLAINT SHOULD REACH EVERYBODY WHOM I HAVE MENTIONED ALREADY .YOU DON'T WORRY OF THE BLANK STAMP PAPERS SIGNED BY YOU WHICH HE IS HAVING . IF HE USES THAT IN ANY COURT OF LAW AGAINST YOU AT ANY TIME  ,I WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO .WHY NOT YOU ARE INFORMING ME FROM WHICH STATE YOU ARE WRITING THIS IN ORDER THAT I CAN SEND YOU TO MY CONTACTS WHOM YOU CAN BELIEVE . ALL ARE VERY SENIOR ADVOCATES AND YOU CAN TRUST THEM . I WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER .THEY WILL ALSO INFORM ME WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IN THIS MATTER . IF YOU TRUST ME AND IF YOU WANT ANY MORE SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER , YOU MAY WRITE TO MY MAIL I.D. - josephwilfred1a0b7c9d0e0f2gags@gmail.com . BECAUSE WHATEVER I AM WRITING IN THIS FORUM APPEARS IN MANY OTHER FORUMS WHICH I MYSELF HAD NOTICED . - JOSEPH WILFRED - 30/12/2013 AT 14.01 HRS.    

Chatriyan (Engineer)     31 December 2013

Dear Joseph,

                     Thank you very much,for showing knees interset.The client belongs to your state.The culprit lawyer also belongs to your state.

"once bitten twice shy", sorry to state like this.The culprit lawyer created such a God will,still the elderly client could not come to terms the way he cheated him.you might be knowing the culprit lawyer,He talks in ladies voice,his personality will not at all match to a professional lawyer.This culprit is holding all the original documents(including the suspended registration document).

when he was called for police enqiery,He used one of the blank stamp papers with the client sign,to his advantage.by filling that he had already paid entire money back ,the day the registration document was withdrawn from sub Registars office.in addition to that he has falsely included all the original documents were returned back to the client.

                           It seems he is being ably supported by one of the ruling party ministers since both belong to same community(telugu speaking).

The only option now is to prove that culprit has carried out forgery by using the blank signed stamp paper and he is threatening to use other blank signed stamp papers.

                At appropriate time.I will unmask the culprit lawyer,till then please suggest methods to save the innocent client,who belived the culprit lawyer too much.The client and the Culprit lawyer belong to same village.This is the interesting part of treacherouy and Back Stabing.

normally any cheat ,they will cheat outsiders and hide in Native but this Idiotic culprit kept his hand on his own village person.

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     31 December 2013

DEAR MR. CHATRIYAN

                                       YOU HAVE STATED THAT THE CULPRIT LAWYER BELONGS TO TAMIL NADU AND HE HAD STATED THAT HE IS RELATED TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM THE  RULING PARTY. THIS IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE AS FAR AS OUR STATE IS CONCERNED . IF OUR HONORABLE MADAM COMES TO KNOW THAT ONE OF HER PARTY MEMBERS HOWEVER HIGH OR HOWEVER LOW HE/SHE MAY BE HAD BROUGHT BAD NAME TO HER PARTY , THEN SHE WILL NOT HESITATE TO REMOVE HIM/HER FROM THE POST IMMEDIATELY . FOR THIS I WILL TELL YOU AN EXAMPLE .IN THE MADURAI BENCH OF THE MADRAS HIGH COURT A CASE CAME A FEW MONTHS BACK . THAT WAS REGARDING RECRUITMENT TO GOVERNMENT POSTS . A PERSON HAD FILED A WRIT PETITION THAT HE BEING A PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED WAS NOT CONSIDERED FOR THE POST ALTHOUGH 3 % RESERVATION IS THERE AND INSTEAD OTHERS WHO BROUGHT RECOMMENDATION LETTERS WERE APPOINTED FOR THE POST . THE HIGH COURT ISSUED SUMMONS TO THE CONCERNED AUTHORITIES AFTER PERUSING THE RECORDS FILED BY THE DEPARTMENT . THE CONCERNED OFFICIALS HAD DISCLOSED THE TRUTH BEFORE THE COURT. WHEN I SAW IT IN THE MORNING NEWS PAPER . I WAS SURE THAT SOME HEADS WILL ROLL. THE SAME DAY EVENING , THE CONCERNED MINISTER WAS TO ATTEND A MEETING AT 05.30 P.M. AND DISTRIBUTE SOME AWARDS TO THE MEMBERS OF HIS DEPARTMENT . AT 05.00 P.M. MADAM HAD MET THE HONORABLE GOVERNOR AND RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF THE MINISTER WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT . FOR THE 05.30 P.M. MEETING SOME OTHER MINISTER ATTENDED AND GAVE THE AWARDS . SO NOW IT IS FOR YOUR CLIENT TO DECIDE THE COURSE OF ACTION . IF YOU WANT TO PROVE THAT THE CULPRIT HAD COMMITTED A FORGERY , THEN YOU HAD NO OTHER GO BUT TO UNMASK HIM. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ALL YOUR MONEY AND IF YOUR CLIENT WANTS PEACE , THEN YOU NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT THE STAMP PAPERS ,THAT CULPRIT IS HOLDING . I HOPE YOUR CLIENT MUST BE AN AGED PERSON . THAT MUST BE THE REASON WHY HE IS NOT IN A POSITION TO DIGEST IT . I HAVE GONE THROUGH MOST SEVERE PROBLEMS FROM MY AGE OF 25. NOW I AM 57 YEARS OLD . I WAS THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE WORKMEN UNION IN OUR BANK . IN ADDITION I WAS THE NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE ALL INDIA FEDERATION FOR 28 NATIONALIZED BANKS AT THAT TIME . FOR THE TAMIL NADU FEDERATION I WAS THE TREASURER FOR 28 NATIONALIZED BANKS . MY JOB WAS NOT ONLY CONCENTRATING ON THE UNION ACTIVITIES BUT MANY BIG WIGS WILL APPROACH ME ONLY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE HIGH COMMAND FOR THEIR ENTRY INTO OUR OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS ENTRY INTO OUR UNION . THERE IS A SEPARATE ASSOCIATION FOR OFFICERS . THEY WILL NOT APPROACH THAT ASSOCIATION . INSTEAD THEY WILL APPROACH ME TO NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE HIGH COMMAND BYPASSING EVERYTHING . HOW DIFFICULT SITUATIONS , I WOULD HAVE FACED AT THAT AGE . THAT WAS THE REASON HOW I BECAME A HYPERTENSION PATIENT FROM THAT AGE .  NOW I AM NEURO PATIENT DUE TO EXCESS STRESS AND ON 6 MEDICINES IN THE MORNING AND 10 MEDICINES IN THE NIGHT FROM 2005 . MY LIFE IS FULL OF HURDLES .NOT 100 OR 200 OR 400 METERS . BUT CONTINUOUS . I KEEP ON CROSSING EVERY HURDLE BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND I AM ALIVE TILL THIS DAY . SO IF ANY PERSON HAD TO CHEAT ME , THEN HE MUST FIND OUT A NEW WAY . BECAUSE I HAVE CROSSED AND SEEN ALMOST 75% OF THE WAYS . NOW DECIDE AND TELL ME , WHAT IS YOUR COURSE OF ACTION . IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT , THEN WE CAN LEAVE THE MATTER . IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THE MATTER , THEN YOU HAVE TO UNMASK THE CULPRIT . FROM YOUR WORDS I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE CULPRIT MUST BE PRACTISING IN MADRAS HIGH COURT OR ANY OF THE COURTS IN CHENNAI .REST ON HEARING FROM YOU - JOSEPH WILFRED - 31/12/2013 AT 21.43 HRS.      

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     31 December 2013

DEAR MR. CHATRIYAN

                                       YOU HAVE STATED THAT THE CULPRIT LAWYER BELONGS TO TAMIL NADU AND HE HAD STATED THAT HE IS RELATED TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM THE  RULING PARTY. THIS IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE AS FAR AS OUR STATE IS CONCERNED . IF OUR HONORABLE MADAM COMES TO KNOW THAT ONE OF HER PARTY MEMBERS HOWEVER HIGH OR HOWEVER LOW HE/SHE MAY BE HAD BROUGHT BAD NAME TO HER PARTY , THEN SHE WILL NOT HESITATE TO REMOVE HIM/HER FROM THE POST IMMEDIATELY . FOR THIS I WILL TELL YOU AN EXAMPLE .IN THE MADURAI BENCH OF THE MADRAS HIGH COURT A CASE CAME A FEW MONTHS BACK . THAT WAS REGARDING RECRUITMENT TO GOVERNMENT POSTS . A PERSON HAD FILED A WRIT PETITION THAT HE BEING A PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED WAS NOT CONSIDERED FOR THE POST ALTHOUGH 3 % RESERVATION IS THERE AND INSTEAD OTHERS WHO BROUGHT RECOMMENDATION LETTERS WERE APPOINTED FOR THE POST . THE HIGH COURT ISSUED SUMMONS TO THE CONCERNED AUTHORITIES AFTER PERUSING THE RECORDS FILED BY THE DEPARTMENT . THE CONCERNED OFFICIALS HAD DISCLOSED THE TRUTH BEFORE THE COURT. WHEN I SAW IT IN THE MORNING NEWS PAPER . I WAS SURE THAT SOME HEADS WILL ROLL. THE SAME DAY EVENING , THE CONCERNED MINISTER WAS TO ATTEND A MEETING AT 05.30 P.M. AND DISTRIBUTE SOME AWARDS TO THE MEMBERS OF HIS DEPARTMENT . AT 05.00 P.M. MADAM HAD MET THE HONORABLE GOVERNOR AND RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF THE MINISTER WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT . FOR THE 05.30 P.M. MEETING SOME OTHER MINISTER ATTENDED AND GAVE THE AWARDS . SO NOW IT IS FOR YOUR CLIENT TO DECIDE THE COURSE OF ACTION . IF YOU WANT TO PROVE THAT THE CULPRIT HAD COMMITTED A FORGERY , THEN YOU HAD NO OTHER GO BUT TO UNMASK HIM. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ALL YOUR MONEY AND IF YOUR CLIENT WANTS PEACE , THEN YOU NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT THE STAMP PAPERS ,THAT CULPRIT IS HOLDING . I HOPE YOUR CLIENT MUST BE AN AGED PERSON . THAT MUST BE THE REASON WHY HE IS NOT IN A POSITION TO DIGEST IT . I HAVE GONE THROUGH MOST SEVERE PROBLEMS FROM MY AGE OF 25. NOW I AM 57 YEARS OLD . I WAS THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE WORKMEN UNION IN OUR BANK . IN ADDITION I WAS THE NATIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE ALL INDIA FEDERATION FOR 28 NATIONALIZED BANKS AT THAT TIME . FOR THE TAMIL NADU FEDERATION I WAS THE TREASURER FOR 28 NATIONALIZED BANKS . MY JOB WAS NOT ONLY CONCENTRATING ON THE UNION ACTIVITIES BUT MANY BIG WIGS WILL APPROACH ME ONLY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE HIGH COMMAND FOR THEIR ENTRY INTO OUR OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS ENTRY INTO OUR UNION . THERE IS A SEPARATE ASSOCIATION FOR OFFICERS . THEY WILL NOT APPROACH THAT ASSOCIATION . INSTEAD THEY WILL APPROACH ME TO NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE HIGH COMMAND BYPASSING EVERYTHING . HOW DIFFICULT SITUATIONS , I WOULD HAVE FACED AT THAT AGE . THAT WAS THE REASON HOW I BECAME A HYPERTENSION PATIENT FROM THAT AGE .  NOW I AM NEURO PATIENT DUE TO EXCESS STRESS AND ON 6 MEDICINES IN THE MORNING AND 10 MEDICINES IN THE NIGHT FROM 2005 . MY LIFE IS FULL OF HURDLES .NOT 100 OR 200 OR 400 METERS . BUT CONTINUOUS . I KEEP ON CROSSING EVERY HURDLE BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND I AM ALIVE TILL THIS DAY . SO IF ANY PERSON HAD TO CHEAT ME , THEN HE MUST FIND OUT A NEW WAY . BECAUSE I HAVE CROSSED AND SEEN ALMOST 75% OF THE WAYS . NOW DECIDE AND TELL ME , WHAT IS YOUR COURSE OF ACTION . IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT , THEN WE CAN LEAVE THE MATTER . IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THE MATTER , THEN YOU HAVE TO UNMASK THE CULPRIT . FROM YOUR WORDS I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE CULPRIT MUST BE PRACTISING IN MADRAS HIGH COURT OR ANY OF THE COURTS IN CHENNAI .REST ON HEARING FROM YOU - JOSEPH WILFRED - 31/12/2013 AT 22.27 HRS.      

Chatriyan (Engineer)     01 January 2014

Mr.Joseph,

                 I thought you were one of young lads,surprised to see you are 57 year old elderly person.The client certainly is a senior citizen.who thought of spending the years in tranquility and peace though He was offered Extension and still his superiors requesting him to reconsider his decision to join and help grow the organization,purely based on his Honesty and personal integrity (if he was money minded,he could have made huge money by using his position).He chose to spend his life in peace but the culprit lawer utilized this opportunity to cheat him.

                  The client and me we have great Respect for our Chief Minister(Madam),but the culprit has created an evidence with the signed blank stamp paper,which he got from the client disguising to file the Writ.which he never did.

                   What is the tangible evidence that the client has got against this culprit,only the God's grace is with him.when I mentioned the ruling party member,He his first time MLA and one of the ministers,who was never affected in the shuffling so not sure wether Madam will Belive our version or not.

                      There were common friends between the client(who got benefited from the client)and the culprit lawyer,once the client told them about the way he cheated,initially they were willing to help the client but the same persons are keeping quiet because they all belong to same caste.

                        Wether is it possible to send the stamp paper(used by the culprit lawyer) for finding the date when the client signed and when the rest of the statements were madeup by ink aging technique .I am a student of chemistry and chemical engineering.I know this technique is accepted in US,Australia,European countries.do we have any chance to send the document for checking the dates based on their ink aging.If we can do this ,I am dead sure the culprit will be proved without doubt,He has created a forged document.He will fall in his own trap.

                             I went through some of the judgements from Madras High court,The judges first don't entertain this and if forced once again we don't have that facility in our forensic Labs,wether the Judges would be willing to send this document abroad for verification.The client is willing to bear the cost just to prove he is correct and the culprit Lawyer is criminal.who should not be allowed to cheat others in his life time for ever.

                                  I hope if you can clarify in this matter it will be of great help to the client. 

Joseph Wilfred (Voluntarily Retired from Indian Overseas Bank)     01 January 2014

DEAR MR. CHATRIYAN

                                     BY REPLYING TO YOUR PREVIOUS QUERY I LOST THE NEW YEAR 2014 WORSHIP LIVE WHICH IS BEING ATTENDED BY THOUSANDS OF OUR CHURCH MEMBERS . I BELONG TO NEW LIFE ASSEMBLY OF GOD CHURCH , SAIDAPET, CHENNAI .I CANNOT ATTEND THE NIGHT SERVICE BECAUSE THE CROWD WILL BE VERY HUGE . SO I WILL ATTEND THE SERVICE RELAYED LIVE IN THE INTERNET . WHEN I SUBMITTED YOUR REPLY . IT TOOK MORE THAN 45 MINUTES TO GET CONNECTED TO THE LAWYER'S CLUB SERVER ALTHOUGH THE SPEED I AM HAVING IS 4 MBPS UPTO 6 GB PER MONTH . SO I HAD TO WAIT TILL THAT TIME . AFTER THAT I HAVE TO RUN SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE SOFTWARE BECAUSE THE LIVE WORSHIP IS NOT RELAYED FROM MADRAS BUT FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY . SO I COULD WORSHIP ONLY FOR 15 MINUTES BECAUSE GOOGLE CHROME STARTED GIVING TROUBLE . BY THAT TIME THE SERVICE WAS OVER . THEN I INSTALLED A NEW VERSION OF GOOGLE CHROME AND GAVE ALL THE SETTINGS . NOW I AM GETTING THE SIGNALS .

      FROM THE WAY I WRITE , YOU MUST BE IN A POSITION TO JUDGE THAT WHAT I AM WRITING IS NOT FROM A YOUNG PERSON BUT FROM A PERSON WHO HAD GONE THROUGH ALL THE MATTERS . I WILL NOT WRITE ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWING THE 100% TRUTH . SOME MAY BE BASED ON JUDGEMENTS . YOU HAVE SAID THAT THE CULPRIT HAD CHEATED HIS OWN VILLAGE PERSON . THAT SHOWS HOW INNOCENT YOUR ELDERLY CLIENT IS . HE HAD NOT GONE THROUGH ANY OF MENTAL SUFFERINGS IN HIS EARLY AGE AS I HAD UNDERGONE OR ANY OF THE HURDLES AS I HAVE FACED .SINCE THE CULPRIT IS A CRIMINAL HE KNOWS VERY WELL THAT HE CAN FOOL THIS ELDERLY CLIENT . SOME PERSONS ARE THERE WHO BLINDLY BELIEVE SOMEBODY .THEY WILL NOT TAKE OUR WORD EVEN IF WE TELL HIM NOT TO BELIEVE THAT PERSON . I WILL LEAVE SUCH PERSONS BECAUSE THEY WILL MISTAKE ME , WE ARE JEALOUS OF WHAT HE IS BUYING . SO I WILL LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANTED AND AFTER GETTING INTO TROUBLE ALSO , I WILL NOT CALL THEM THAT I WILL HELP THEM . AFTER GETTING CHEATED BY MANY OTHER ASSURANCES GIVEN BY OTHER PERSONS , IF THEY COME TO ME ON THEIR OWN, THEN I WILL HELP THEM . I WILL NOT TURN THEM AWAY . BECAUSE WHAT IS SAID IN THE BIBLE IS THAT , IF WE CAN DO A HELP TO A PERSON AND IF THAT PERSON COMES FOR THAT HELP WE SHOULD NOT TURN THEM AWAY BUT WE SHOULD HELP THEM . MY GOD WILL REWARD ME FOR THAT .    

       NOW COMING TO YOUR MATTER , YOU DON'T WANT TO EXPOSE THE CULPRIT BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU WANT HIM TO BE PUNISHED FOR THE FORGERY . FOR THIS YOU NEED NOT APPROACH OUR HONORABLE MADAM , IT IS ENOUGH IF YOU APPROACH THE MADRAS HIGH COURT . YOU HAVE STATED THAT , YOUR CLIENT HAD GIVEN A POLICE COMPLAINT ALSO AND FOR THAT ,THE CULPRIT HAD USED ONE OF THE STAMP PAPERS SIGNED BY YOUR CLIENT . IS YOUR CLIENT HAVING THE POLICE COMPLAINT RECEIPT IN THIS MATTER? . THE NEXT MATTER IS WHETHER THE STAMP PAPER THAT CULPRIT PRODUCED AS EVIDENCE BEFORE THE POLICE IS A HAND WRITTEN ONE AND IN WHOSE HAND WRITING ? . IF THESE TWO YOU CAN CONFIRM ME , THEN WE CAN FILE A Cr.O.P. ( CRIMINAL ORIGINAL PETITION ) IN THE HIGH COURT FOR A DIRECTION TO THE HOME SECRETARY , DIRECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE , COMMISSIONER OF POLICE OR THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF POLICE OF THAT ZONE ,THE INSPECTOR OF POLICE WHERE YOUR CLIENT GAVE THE COMPLAINT AS RESPONDENTS . WE CAN INCLUDE EVEN THE HR&CE SECRETARY ALSO BECAUSE WE MAY GET INFORMATION WHEN THE GOVERNMENT HAD SENT COMMUNICATION AND TO WHOM, ABOUT TAKING OVER THAT PROPERTY .YOU TELL ME WHERE THIS FRAUD TOOK PLACE TO DECIDE WHETHER IT COMES UNDER MADRAS HIGH COURT JURISDICTION OR UNDER MADURAI BENCH OF THE MADRAS HIGH COURT . NEXT YOUR CLIENT SHOULD BE FIRM AND HE SHOULD NOT GO BACK . BUT ONCE HE FILES THE AFFIDAVIT IN THE HIGH COURT , HE CANNOT GO BACK . YOU HAVE STATED THAT WHETHER THE HIGH COURT WILL SEND THE PAPERS TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO VERIFY THE HAND WRITING AND THE SIGNATURE . IN INDIA ITSELF WE ARE HAVING SUCH A LAB AT HYDERABAD OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA AND THE MADRAS HIGH COURT HAD SENT A CHECK TO VERIFY THE AGE OF THE INK OF THE SIGNATURE AND THE REST OF THE MATTER WRITTEN IN THAT BELONGS TO WHAT AGE .  I HAVE WRITTEN A LOT IN THIS MATTER . THEREFORE TO MAINTAIN SECRECY IN THIS MATTER I WILL NOT GIVE SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER UNLESS YOU COME TO MY PERSONAL MAIL I.D. AFTER DECIDING THE FUTURE COURSE OF ACTION- JOSEPH WILFRED - 01/01/2014 AT  04.50  HRS. 

deb (Advocate)     01 January 2014

Dear Sir, Is it allright if a Judge has passed an ex parte ad interim injunction against the defendant without the presence of either plaintiffs and defendants basically no body appeared and judge has given exparte adinterim exparte order Does the Judge have such discretionary power to pass an order without hearing any advocate Regards


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