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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     08 May 2010

Separate set of laws, for honour killing – like 498A or DV.

We need a separate set of laws, for honour killing – like 498A or DV act.

Today there is a flood of - honour killing, very particularly on the ground of matrimony.

A large number of people desires that their daughter, sister, will move in marimoney, according to their will, instead of the girl’s own choice/ will. It seems that a girl child is equivalent to cattle, like cow, buffalo or sheep. The girl child can be sent to a place for intercourse according to the choice and purpose of their owners – instead of her own will. The so called ‘honour killing’, makes the cat out of the bag.

We know from the sociologists & psychologists that, the female members of the society first exploited and faced zender discrimination, at their parental home. My personal experience and observation is also same. Not all, but a large number of the parents differ among their children on the ground of s*x and provide lion’s share to the son, and deprive the girl child from equality within the family.

A separate section added for murder and cruelty to ‘wife’ – in IPC for the sake of good matrimonial governance.

The Parliament should not overlook the above facts and should create a separate section for such wicked brothers and parents of the victim – girl child?

A separate section in IPC for such murder and cruelty may please be considered to stop such offencess?



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(Guest)

Very Goodboy !!!  Not 50 times.. 100 times.

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     09 May 2010

Mr. Goodboy.50 & Mr. Ram Samudre,

All the murders are not equal. According to IPC, CRPC, & IEA, murders are different types. Therefore their burdain of prove & punishments are different.  I shall try to put the details latter on.


(Guest)

Well Mr. Arup, put up details you have.. take your time.

Whatever I said, my concept is clear. Please go through the spirit. 

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     10 May 2010

*** Indian National Lok Dal of Hariyana supported the demand of khap panchayats'.

*** Industrialist and Congress MP Naveen Jindal on Sunday supported the Haryana khap panchayats' (caste councils) demand for amending the Hindu Marriage Act to ban marriages within the same 'gotra' or subcaste. Regarding 'Gotra' or Subcaste – It is wrong to say that, gotra is subcaste.

Gotra indicates that, the forefather of a person was either student or family member of a Hindu saint, popularly known as ‘rrishi’. The name of the saint treated as the name of the Gotra. In ancient times, it is considered that they belong to the same family and brotherly/sisterly relationship exist among themselves. In different castes, same gotra may be seen. Therefore ‘Gotra’ is not a subcaste.

According to the ancient Hindu religious systems, brotherly / sisterly relationship overruled and treated as the said relationship seased or non-existed, among the marriageable couples, after seventh step from father side and three step from mother side. The Hindu marriage act also supports this view. Therefore, the said relationship, due to same gotra already not existed and not in force.

However It is a positive attitude that, ‘Jindal has also urged before the khap panchyat to fight against other social evils like dowry system and female foeticide plaguing in our society’ – This news makes me happy.


(Guest)

Dear Mr. Arup,

You deserve a "congratulation" for having sense of this subject and people should say "thanks" to you for bringing a good information in this regard.

I've to say something but since the information laid down by you seem a comprehensive.  So, in due course, if felt appropriate.

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     16 May 2010

The court was - The Supreme Court Of India.

The bench – Consisted of, Justice VS Sirpurkar,

                                                &

                                    justice Deepak Verma.

 

·        Prabhu Nochil, husband of Sushma Tiwari, was murdered by Sushma's brother, Dilip Tiwari and two of his friends - Sunil Yadav and Manoj Paswan. Dilip and his associates killed not only Prabhu Nochil but also Prabhu’s father Krishnan Nochil, and two others Bijith & Abhayraj. Prabhu Nochil & Sushma Tiwari was neighbours and a love existed between them. Sushma married Prabhu, against her family’s concent. Prabhu, was  Malayali and non bramhin. As a result of that, Dilip and his associates killed Prabhu & others and injuried seriously to Prabhu's sister Deepa and mother Indira- who passed away.

·        A fast track court, consisted by justice A B Mahajan, sentenced, Dilip, Sunil, & Manoj by death penalty. Observation of the judge was – ‘murders committed in cold blood’ & the case is a "rarest of rare" one. The crime was systematically planned and brutally executed.

·        Sushma expressed her satisfaction on the judgment of death sentence awarded by her brother – who killed her love as well as her husband - Prabhu.

·        The death penalty confirmed by The High Court of Mumbai.

·        Thereafter the case reached to Honorable The Supreme court. The bench consisted of, Justice V S Sirpurkar & justice Deepak Verma. The Supreme Court changed the punishment from death to life imprisonment.

Observation and some of the comments of the Honorable judges of The Supreme Court, were –

1) It was not a rarest of the rare case.

 

2) The case was a case of “caste crime

3) “If he the girl’s brother Dilip became victim of his wrong but genuine caste considerations, it would not justify the death sentence”.

4) “The murders were the outcome of a social issue like a marriage with a person of so-called lower caste. However, time has come when we have to consider these social issues relevant while considering death sentence in such circumstances”.

 

5) "Sushma was the younger sister of this accused (Dilip). It is a common experience that when the younger sister does something unusual--and in this case it was an intercaste, intercommunity marriage out of the secret love affair--then in the society it is the elder brother who justifiably or otherwise is held responsible for not stopping such affair.

 

6) "The caste is a concept which grips a person before his birth and does not leave him even after his death. The vicious grip of caste, community, religion, though totally unjustified, is a stark reality”.

7) "The psyche of the offender in the background of a social issue like an inter-caste-community marriage, though wholly unjustified, would have to be considered in the peculiar circumstances of this case,"

8) Dilip had carried out the act as he felt humiliated by the action of his younger sister getting married to a so-called lower caste man.

9) "It is held as the family's defeat. At times, he has to suffer taunts and snide remarks even from persons who really have no business to poke their nose into the affairs of the family. Dilip, therefore, must have been a prey of the so-called insult which his younger sister had imposed upon his family and that must have been in his mind for seven long months,"

10) "This was further aggravated because of the so-called higher status of a Brahmin family on the part of Dilip and so- called non-Brahmin status of Prabhu.

11) According to the apex court, the love affair, which went on between Sushma and Prabhu for which Abhayraj acted as a messenger, must have raised Dilip's feeling of being cheated by Prabhu.

12) The bench said all murders are foul but the degree of brutality, depravity and diabolic nature differ in each case and there cannot be a straight jacket formula for deciding upon the circumstances under which the death penalty is a must.

13) "In a death sentence matter, it is not only the nature of the crime but the background of the criminal, his psychology, his soccial conditions and his mindset for committing the offence are also relevant,"the apex court said citing its earlier reasoning adopted in the Bachan Singh case.

14) Citing the Bachan Singh case, the apex court said the principle is that the court should not confine its consideration principally or merely to the circumstances connected with the particular crime but also give due consideration to the circumstances of the criminal.

·        "It is because of this that we have ventured to consider the mindset of accused No.1 Dilip and the vicious caste grip that might have provoked the crime committed by him.

·        "However, in the peculiar circumstances of this case, mere life imprisonment which is capable of resulting into 20 years of imprisonment or 14 years of actual imprisonment may not be adequate punishment for these accused persons, "the bench said.

·        Hence, the apex court said that in the overall circumstances, it would be appropriate that Dilip and Manoj, who assaulted Krishnan, Prabhu and the two helpless ladies, would deserve the life imprisonment.

·        "But we direct that they shall not be released unless they complete 25 years of actual imprisonment. In case of Sunil, (third accused) however, since he had not assaulted the helpless ladies nor had he taken part in the assault on Krishnan, he deserves life imprisonment in ordinary sense. He shall have to undergo the 20 years of actual punishment," the bench said in its judgement. ==PTI

·        In other words, the court classified the shameful caste-based honour killings as different from other homicides in which the maximum punishment of death can be awarded.

·        The Supreme Court also examined the psychology of the killers, including the brother of the girl who stepped out of her caste to marry a Keralite. It said,

·        Though agreeing that the killings were gruesome, the apex court said Dilip had carried out the act as he felt humiliated by the action of his younger sister getting married to a so-called lower caste man.

·        The Supreme Court took a lenient view that the main perpetrator of the crime was a victim of the "vicious grip of caste".

·        The court showed a peculiar leniency & flexibility in this case, and glorify the caste-ism, against the intention, & will of the Constitution.

·         A criminal may have some wrong conception on caste-ism, but that cannot be a good cause for lower amount of punishment to him.

 

·        Khap Panchayets are gaining grounds from the conclusion of this case.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     16 May 2010

HONOUR KILLING IN ANCIENT INDIA.

I had the impression that the honour killing comes from the Arabian Society or Islamic Society to the Indian Society as an imported concept.

But when I recall the case of Parashuram, I came to understood that, the concept has the Indian origin also.

·        Parashuram killed her mother, to save the honour of his family and father, - being ordered by his father, to kill his mother.

·        In Ramayana, the elopement of Sita by Ravan was for the sake of the honour Surpanakha and Ravan. On the other hand the fight between Ram and Ravan was sake of the honour of Ram, - who left Sita latter on.

·        War of kuruchetra, in between Kourav and Pandav also a fight for the Honour of Draupadi and Pandav. Though, judhisteer was agreed for five villages instead of whole kingdom, but Vim and Krishna agitate judhisteer repeating the scene of snatching the cloths of Draupadi by Kouravs.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     18 May 2010

ALL MURDERS ARE NOT EQUAL

 

When a person killed by another person, in general sense it is called ‘murder’. But all the murders are not equal.

According to IPC, murders are mainly devided into following categories.

(1) Murders with intention to kill the person.

(2) Murders without intention to kill the person.

(3) Murders for self defence.

(4) Causing death by negligence

(5) Murder with intention to kill an wife (Dowry death).

IPC broadly classified the murders into two, firstly Culpable homicide under sec 299 & murder under sec 300. Homicide means the killing of a human being; ‘likely by such act which may cause death’.

Culpable homicide is, whoever causes death of another person by doing an act

(a) With the intention of causing death, or

(b) With the intention of causing such bodily injury which likely to     cause death, or

(c) With the knowledge that he is likely by such act to cause death,

commits the offence of culpable homicide.

Culpable homicide is murder –

If the act by which the death is caused.

is done with the intention of causing death, with the exceptions under sec 300, IPC. ‘Intention of the killer’ and ‘killer’s knowledge about the death’ plays a vital role in culpable homicide and murder.

Punishment under IPC classified the murder again.

Punishment for murder-

Whoever commits murder shall be punished with

(i) Death, or

(ii) Imprisonment for life, and

(iii) Shall also be liable to fine.

Punishment for culpable homicide not amounting to murder- Whoever commits culpable homicide not amounting to murder

(i) Shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or

(ii) Imprisonment of either descripttion for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine,

(iii) If the act by which the death is caused is done with the intention of causing death; or

(iv) Of causing such bodily injury as is likely to cause death; or

(v) With imprisonment of either descripttion for a term which may extend to ten years; or with fine, or with both;

if the act is done with the knowledge that it is likely to cause death, but without any intention to cause death, or to cause such bodily injury as is likely to cause death.

Causing death by negligence - Whoever causes the death of any person by doing any rash or negligent act not amounting to culpable homicide shall be punished with imprisonment of either descripttion for a term which may extend to

two years, or

with fine, or

with both. (Sec 304A)

Dowry death -

Where the death of a woman is caused by any burns or bodily injury or occurs otherwise than under normal circumstances within seven years of her marriage and it is shown that soon before her death she was subjected to cruelty or harassment by her husband or any relative of her husband for, or in connection with, any demand for dowry, such death shall be called "dowry death", and such husband or relative shall be deemed to have caused her death.

Here "dowry" have the same meaning as in section 2 of the Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 (28 of 1961).

Punishment

Whoever commits dowry death shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than seven years but which may extend to imprisonment for life (Sec 304B)

 

·        Homicide can be distinguished as

(1) Justifiable

(2) Excusable

(3) Murder

(4) Suicide

(5) Manslaughter

(6) Infanticide

(7) Child destruction.

 

·        Homicide can be classified as  (A) Lawful homicide. (B) unlawful Homicide

 

(A) Lawful homicide classified as

(i) Excusable homicide – Secs. 80, 82-85, 92/IPC.

(ii) Justifiable homicide – Secs. 76,79,77,78,81,100/IPC.

 

(B) unlawful Homicide classified as

(i) Culpable homicide (sec299/IPC)

(ii) Causing death by rash or negligent act not amounting to culpable homicide (Sec.304A/IPC).

(iii) Suicide (secs. 305, 306)

(iv) Murder with intention to kill a wife (Dowry death - sec 304B).

 

·        According to IEA, murders are broadly classified into two categories.

Where burdain of prove lies upon,

(i) The prosecution, &

(ii) The accused.

 


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