Females - Are they really innocent?

Girls keep their approach very humble and kind, not because they are so but because they cannot deal with the aggression as being physically inferior.

Being physically inferior they used to lack this power to choose.

Your above stsements are very biased.Its wrong to say in those aspects as Girls are more biological stronger than male counterparts. Its due to endocrinological factors responsible for less aggression in girls which are found more in males

People have started to opt for live-in to save themselves from repercussions of failed marriages.

The people infact chooses fo livein relations due to unable to bear responsibility on each other and putting the marraige tag on each other, its very diificult to get out from the same. One can say during the period of pre-marraiage(in relationships) they have the opprtunity to find the ideal partners without causing much damage on each other. If they find that its difficult to cope with each other they can move to their places without any liability which is good thing as the male/man don't have to face false charges of DV & 498A which has been alleged by many

Few instance of such powers is S.376IPC (promise of marriage), S.498aIPC, DV Act, Reservation for Women, Reserved seats in public conveyances like buses, trains etc and similarly many other instances could be quoted endlessly.

Above stement is very much biased as the purpose of reserving the seats in public conveyance is that women may carry their children, may be pregnant and other phases of life cycle . If the govet is giving small percentage of reservation among the places what's wrong with this.

Whether woamn can travel in crowded bus packed with men. This is given to provide little relief which I think should be highlited in differnt manner. Tommorow you say that seats in public places should not be reserved to disabled and senior citizen?

Females claim they are equal yet needs maintenance as their fundamental right and they accept their inferiority only when it is beneficial to them.

The pupose of the maintance is not to enriched them but proivde a social security which can be aided by some extract of the income from her husband

Think logically, if the woman has come out from delivery and has neo natal baby can she go for work. The govt sector has given child care leave for benefit of woamn whether such facility is there in pvt sector. In pvt sector, the boss immediately turned awwyd from her job as soon as she get pregnanat and deliver the baby and it is being expected that his husband should care of her babay and herself . So providing some share in the income from her husband as alimony is not disbutable thing

If  your ares aying in the pretext of woman who is earning and has no children then no mainatance or less mainatanace is toi be awrded. Whats wrong with this?

well written Saurabh after a clear thought  .Ms liberal rebuttal s valid too. What does section 376IPC -promise of marriage say?

Ms Liberal from her previous postings has gave the clear impression that she has been blinding supporting the the women. She appers to be psychotic too who cannot bear the real facts in the society

@ Ms Liberal I don't know why woman files false case under DV & 498A Act. If you are married then you have must put your husband behind the bars

Most of the women demand their seats as matter of right How many pregnant ladies travel regulaarly by buses?

Your version is completely wrong

I cannot comment on the Govt Policies but If any Pvt Owner gave 3 years maternity leave and child care leave to any woman Whether he wants to shut its doors or whether he has open any current A/C in the name of woman who are employed in its office

Ms Liberal, if you have open your open office and has employed a lady as your clerk and when she demands 3 year leave as child care leave. Are you willingly to give it ?

Ms Liberal you are giving moral lectures which are very pleasant to hear only on papers when it comes for practical purpose I think will be the first one to be cruel
 

I don't justify "demanding" seats in public buses or mero rails by women.However seats have been reserved ffor them since these s*xually frustrated,bored indian males will start taking advantage of the crowded buses/metros and stand too close to women,doing all sorts of nasty things.Therefore to avoid such embarassment,seats were reserved for them.

I do agree with Ms. Libral

@ Ms Liberal. Women gtoo ffel ashamed of her self when they demand seats from gtheir uncles and grandunlces. Don't you. How many time you youself have done this during travelling? Have you offered seat to any pregnanat /diabled or old woman . Then why you are expecting from others. Then why women prefer to travel in crowded metors when they have theri reserved compartment. Why girls demanding coeducation college or boys to be allowed to their colleges when they have exclusive college for women.....

Ms Liberal Women too knows that some thing wrong is haappening in the socirty but they prefer to remain mute beCAUSE OF FEAR OF LOSSING THEIR PRIVILIGES

@Ms. Liberal

You statements are self consuming and contratictory to themself. See below lines for instance:

One can say during the period of pre-marraiage(in relationships) they have the opprtunity to find the ideal partners without causing much damage on each other. If they find that its difficult to cope with each other they can move to their places without any liability which is good thing as the male/man don't have to face false charges of DV & 498A which has been alleged by many

Here you say that in a pre-martial relation a boy and girl has an option to judge each other to resolve the relation to marriage or not! But when a boy wishes to move out, girls slap S.376IPC saying that the boy had s*x on pretext of marriage and now backing out. But same does not apply to a girl who dumps her boyfriend.

Also see the below lines:

Above stement is very much biased as the purpose of reserving the seats in public conveyance is that women may carry their children, may be pregnant and other phases of life cycle . If the govet is giving small percentage of reservation among the places what's wrong with this.

Men also goes through many phases and I've not seen any man till date who wouldn't offer seat to a needy women like pregnant of with child. In India, might that be any part of the country, man is ALWAYS obliged to give her seat when she really deserves it. But often I see, young girls who just came out of their house/office, fresh with no aching body part, demand seats from tired men, sleeping men or even sometimes aged men!! Moreover, when there is already reservation, then also I've seen men obliging to give away their seats to the troubled ladies. Like for example in Delhi Metro,there is one completely seperate train coach out of four which is reserved for ladies. But many women don't prefer to go to the reserved coach but dras pleasure to ride in unreserved coaches where they demand seat from men. The reason is very simple that they know clearly, a woman would never give away her seat to other needy woman but a man would.

Whether woamn can travel in crowded bus packed with men. This is given to provide little relief which I think should be highlited in differnt manner. Tommorow you say that seats in public places should not be reserved to disabled and senior citizen?

What different manner are you takling about? By using different words the statement might look polite but it would have same meaning. Crook would stay crook even if we call him/her tricky. Can you compare women with disabled or senior citizen ? Do you mean to say that women are synonymous to disabled category? This is queit derogatory to compare them with such strata....

And lastly the below lines are so much irrelevant and spoken without a single thought::

The pupose of the maintance is not to enriched them but proivde a social security which can be aided by some extract of the income from her husband

Do you even know the significance of "maintenance"? Do you even know why it exists? I don't think you could ever give any rationale cause you are confused about social security.

The answer is that when a man marries a woman she gives away everything including her reputation in hands of the man. If we have no deterrent provisions in the law to stop men from divorcing women, then they would marry everyday!!!! So to stop such acts and to keep the society safe maintenance exist. A woman who walks out of her matrimonial home on her own without any reasonable excuse is NOT entitled for a single penny. But still that women deserves social security but no maintenance!!! I hope you understood it fairly!

Think logically, if the woman has come out from delivery and has neo natal baby can she go for work. The govt sector has given child care leave for benefit of woamn whether such facility is there in pvt sector. In pvt sector, the boss immediately turned awwyd from her job as soon as she get pregnanat and deliver the baby and it is being expected that his husband should care of her babay and herself . So providing some share in the income from her husband as alimony is not disbutable thing

How many women do  you know who is forced to work just after her delivery?

How many companies do you know who don't give "pregnancy leave"?

I think answer to both above questions is NO. Even there is provision for men who are going to be father and have to take care of their wives in such critical condition are entitled to leaves!!

Get your facts right girl!!

And as far as you pointed about providing share in husband's income, you are again wrong. Asking for share is not her right but its duty of the husband! There is quiet a lot difference between right and duty. Right exists till you abide and perform you duties and duty could be waived off if your rights are violated. If a woman does not perform her duties then she cannot claim any rights either! Share in husband's property is not a right of a woman but its the duty of the husband who is the guardian after her parents to up-keep her in good health and give dignified life! And if she has provisions available in the form of her own job or her own parents why would she need anything from her husband?

 //peace

/Saruabh..V

Here you say that in a pre-martial relation a boy and girl has an option to judge each other to resolve the relation to marriage or not! But when a boy wishes to move out, girls slap S.376IPC saying that the boy had s*x on pretext of marriage and now backing out. But same does not apply to a girl who dumps her boyfriend.

Kindly tell me how many cases have been registerd .Please don't go about the one or two news. Have you read regularay about such incidents. Those who lodged the cas must be having some genuinity there.Kindly inform whether you file any case against your neighbour who has anything wrong with you. Those who file a complaint have some grievance and IO will have to check the same and the finally court will have to decide. If filing wrong case is concerned Men too can file cases aagainst women under section 506 if they want to damage her personality But no body does becuase her inner sense wouldn't happen same thing happen with women too

What different manner are you takling about? By using different words the statement might look polite but it would have same meaning. Crook would stay crook even if we call him/her tricky. Can you compare women with disabled or senior citizen ? Do you mean to say that women are synonymous to disabled category? This is queit derogatory to compare them with such strata....

Surely not the explanation has been provide to them. Any relief will be provide to anyone when one is not adequately represented. If women do the work and men stays at home definately framers will reserved the seat for men

Do you even know the significance of "maintenance"? Do you even know why it exists? I don't think you could ever give any rationale cause you are confused about social security.

The answer is that when a man marries a woman she gives away everything including her reputation in hands of the man. If we have no deterrent provisions in the law to stop men from divorcing women, then they would marry everyday!!!! So to stop such acts and to keep the society safe maintenance exist. A woman who walks out of her matrimonial home on her own without any reasonable excuse is NOT entitled for a single penny. But still that women deserves social security but no maintenance!!! I hope you understood it fairly!

If there is not the tradition of leaving the matri home and sacrifying the job for the pretext of marraiage then definately the mainatance clause should not be inseerted here

How many women do  you know who is forced to work just after her delivery?

How many companies do you know who don't give "pregnancy leave"?

I think answer to both above questions is NO. Even there is provision for men who are going to be father and have to take care of their wives in such critical condition are entitled to leaves!!

there are thousands and thousands of firms, companies etc Kindly see the directory you will find companies from A toZ. However I can list the companies who can provide the maternity leave

Those who lodged the cas must be having some genuinity there.

This is a typical answer. When a girl complains everyone says she must have some genuinness. Why? Isn't she also a human who is as mean as a man? A complainant is always interested to defeat the accused by hook or crook. This is the apathy of our Indian system that when someone files a complain against other, the accused has to go through the hardship of many years before he/she can realize what wrong he/she did that the law lambasted them.

A complainant could be a man or a women and both could have ulterior objectives. Your replies are generalizing ALL women on one side that whenever a girl complains she has a genuine issue. If it is so, why is this forum filled up with false 498a cases? And recently I;ve seen 4 different cases of 376IPC where girls posted that they were cheated but within few hours of discussion on the post their lies came to the fore by themselves. There are posts which you can find both in criminal as well as family law section.

Those who file a complaint have some grievance and IO will have to check the same and the finally court will have to decide.

I/O only checks who is ready to bribe more and court only allows due process of law to grind as slow as possible. I've seen complainants absenting themselves for 6-7 dates continuously yet the judge orders summons to be served via. I/O but same judge when he finds the accused is nto present, immediately ordr Non-bailable warrants. So biased these laws are that when we enter the court room, we already know that woman would be favored and feel frustated so this biased fact!!

If women do the work and men stays at home definately framers will reserved the seat for men

Seats are reserved by circumspecting who is physically weaker and more prone to attacks and not because women stay at home or something like old age humans or physically handicapped etc. What world you live in? Are you in you senses to even think like this? Such childish thought. I've started to build doubts on your integrity and serious apprehend you have been tortured by one or another men that is why you have become so blind that cant even think of neutral views.!!

If there is not the tradition of leaving the matri home and sacrifying the job for the pretext of marraiage then definately the mainatance clause should not be inseerted here

This is not a tradition but world-wide accepted procedure. No girl in this world would like to marry a man who lives in her own house like ghar-jamai and no man in this world would like to live on the earnings of his wife. This is world-wide accepted fact that man is more stronger than woman that is why when we go to any restaurant for lunch/dinner etc., a man pulls the chair for a woman. This is called etiquette. Can you guess why? If you can, then your answer resides there.!!!!

Moreover, a woman sacrifice not only her job but many other things and that is why they are called godess in India. Else if they stop doing sacrifice, they are normal human being like men and shall be treated like them. So it's better you choose you way!!

//peace

/Saurabh..V

his is a typical answer. When a girl complains everyone says she must have some genuinness. Why? Isn't she also a human who is as mean as a man? A complainant is always interested to defeat the accused by hook or crook. This is the apathy of our Indian system that when someone files a complain against other, the accused has to go through the hardship of many years before he/she can realize what wrong he/she did that the law lambasted them.

A complainant could be a man or a women and both could have ulterior objectives. Your replies are generalizing ALL women on one side that whenever a girl complains she has a genuine issue. If it is so, why is this forum filled up with false 498a cases? And recently I;ve seen 4 different cases of 376IPC where girls posted that they were cheated but within few hours of discussion on the post their lies came to the fore by themselves. There are posts which you can find both in criminal as well as family law section.

tHE QUESTION ARISES WHY SOME ONE WANTS TO IMPLICATE THE OTHER WHEN THERE HAS BEEN NO REASON BEHING IT. there are certain sections which are highly senstive and few are brought into the notice despite of stringent provisons. Before 1982 u/s 376 the onus is on the woman to prove but this has led to free of many accussed persons but now conviction is higher due to change in procedure. The purpose of these ammnendment are made to punish the culprits so that they would not escape from the procedure of the court

I/O only checks who is ready to bribe more and court only allows due process of law to grind as slow as possible. I've seen complainants absenting themselves for 6-7 dates continuously yet the judge orders summons to be served via. I/O but same judge when he finds the accused is nto present, immediately ordr Non-bailable warrants. So biased these laws are that when we enter the court room, we already know that woman would be favored and feel frustated so this biased fact!!

Whether the complainant can bribe to the Police? Is it real - cannot be belive with reasonable doubt- Have any one have heared that complainant who is victim u/s 498a or 376 have to bribe the police. However accused usually gives bribe for weakening of the evidences brought into records

Seats are reserved by circumspecting who is physically weaker and more prone to attacks and not because women stay at home or something like old age humans or physically handicapped etc. What world you live in? Are you in you senses to even think like this? Such childish thought. I've started to build doubts on your integrity and serious apprehend you have been tortured by one or another men that is why you have become so blind that cant even think of neutral views.!!

This point has been clear earlier but persistently making comaparison with disabled and older persons had make it no sense . Now the question of phsical infrimity has again arisen. Earlier point was repled on the basis of phyical attributes but was not satisfied then with logic explanation was given which was again not satiosfied then again raising the question of physical infrimity make no sense

This is not a tradition but world-wide accepted procedure. No girl in this world would like to marry a man who lives in her own house like ghar-jamai and no man in this world would like to live on the earnings of his wife. This is world-wide accepted fact that man is more stronger than woman that is why when we go to any restaurant for lunch/dinner etc., a man pulls the chair for a woman. This is called etiquette. Can you guess why? If you can, then your answer resides there.!!!!

Moreover, a woman sacrifice not only her job but many other things and that is why they are called godess in India. Else if they stop doing sacrifice, they are normal human being like men and shall be treated like them. So it's better you choose you way!!

Your reply was generated in regards to explanation made for mainatanace only

@Ms. Liberal

You really need a practical glimpse of the real world out there. Sitting inside your house in a confortable position would not allow you to make posts neutral. They would remain biased and closed eyed!

Police never files any case without taking money. Additionally when these 498a case is filed they actually help the complainant build up a false story and fabricate allegations. That is this forum is filled with such cries of false cases. Few cases also came up recently about S.376IPC (promise of marriage) which also turned out gross misuse of the provision only because the girl was mad to marry the boy so she filed this case to compel the boy to marry her but not because she was ravished.

//peace

/Saurabh..V

I always tries to make the posting very neutral and for this I have to support the version which has been gainfully supported by negative aspects

Too much critcism on one apect without any reasonable basis and light defence made by some one doesn't treat as bias who has supported its version with logical explanation rather than raisng new illustation which coveted the previous issue and marked it as biased??

ave to support the version rather than which has been gainfully supported by negative aspects