'denying wife access to marital home is domestic violence-hc

Originally posted by :utpala kaur

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Ok we made personal comments. 

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Originally posted by :Princess

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"Bakwas likhne me yaha tere barabar koi nahi hai". 

Keep it up and harass the people around you................ 

If you are pointing towards Roshni, let me clarify Mr Tajobs India, that she never wrote the above lines in any thread. If you are unsure, you may recheck the thread to confirm this. She never uses words like "TU TERA" etc while addressing anyone.

Take: Read my above 13:50 hrs. post again and I quote from my own post  "Third madam is found of intimidation to member’s piggy riding some other female who openly states "SC / HC will kick in your balls to male writer" as well as abv. para 2 to Saurabh V. as if giving writer(s) French kisses............" Pertinent to point here are three words some other female and to stress here since "logics" is not your forte that some other female who quoted these is @ Hema, Law officer. You and Roshni both can atleast read well any posts here as reading has ever been a problem with you two other than understanding English so it is your issue not mine when I quote above and I know how Roshni writes and no need to tell me that.
 

Secondly, even if she felt bad when you refererred to her legal case, she replied politely that she did not like you referring to her past. After that she never said anything to you.
Take: So as per you and Roshni you can quote your own case and have exclusive rights of it obviously but when you quote them in public domain it comes under public preview. If she is so sensitive to her past then she shall not have commented in another post "let me know name of this mediator I will tell you how bad she is" :-) I mean what is delimitation of "sensitivity" to you two ladies here? You can quote liberally your past here to another author's post but the moment any third party quotes your own post to you, you get extra sensitive (use Sensodyne then is my Rx) and start demanding "good behaviour medals" in LCI.  

Take the medal for all its sake ladies.

Yet you made an issue of it,only because she expressed her dislike towards your comment.
Take: Any writer are welcome to comment on any of my posts as they please but they shall also be ready to handle my subsequent rebuttals (if any). I am not pundit of Law" but a beginner of vast subject called Law in case you have misunderstanding of my knowledge. This is a public forum not my personal forum atleast this much I am aware of and not sure of your level of awareness here.
 


Were her 2-3 statements which she made at that time so acidic, that you are repeatedly talking of her past on that day, and now also by referring to her as a sulking, divorced woman?
Take:  I have no desire to rake a past of any member here and it is self conscious trigger a author feels when word "past" / "mediator" / "false" etc. are spoken by me to any generic reply. Onew Roshni past does not bother me here. There are too many unfortunate in marriage Roshni’s and males here in ground. BTW she is mature women to defend herself and she has placed her defence no. of times to me why you wagging your txxl between us!



If you have any humanness in you, do you understand this basic psychology that some people are sensitive to their past because of certain traumatic experiences related to it?
Take: I understand humanness better than you that is why I suggested to your friend @ Roshni to "move on with her present life" instead of "educating / giving infomation" of legal topics which all itself shows a person is not interested in getting healing (so called) her past trauma (if any). Well had it been so a traumatic person does not come back to same thorns of past in guise of "education / giving information" while remaining in same environs. It all defies psy. logics of healing from trauma. Now I guess take a printout of this particular take of mine and take it to any of your pet psy. specialist and get what I say here verified to your own satisfaction on trauma and healing matters.



Why are you taunting Roshni so much, as if she committed a crime by telling you not to talk about her past?

Take: I go by respected ld. Soli Sorabji famous quote when Bharat Ratna DV was enacted and he takes a dig on "verbal abuse section of DVA" which was quoted long time here in LCI and adding to it @ Princess "tell me definition of taunt !" as per you ? A Indian metro wife feels "taunted" if ignored in replies or is it so that a metro wife feels "taunted" if not even made a reference directly to her in a post other than using word "moderator" and be it so who is one Roshni here in Legal forum and does she change society…....na nah it will not happen so as fundamentally that Roshni does not understand English which she herself asks me to write in simple ways....


Post facto - Lady lean to speak for yourself instead of piggy riding and speaking for someone else. This is a legal forum if you speak personal you will get personal rebuttals but till that time it is OK but then learn to handle personal remarks too and no point today to run for gold medal of "I am a good women here in LCI" / "I donot speak personal" /  "I do not taunt" etc. etc.. Your several past posts directly to me speaks of you lady which I may not reply.

Public is a judge shall I say so ending your pow wow with me.............

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Originally posted by :utpala kaur

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Can Mr Ramani and U admit that u never made personal comments on us??? (so u too desrve to be reprted abuse)
Take: Please report and get deleted my a/c. Thank you.


About my family business it is not your business. This is my PERSONAL matter. {As i have not asked u why u r time passing here with KRITHIKAs (oh failed according to )} leaving your clients behind)!
Take: Your own above personal matter is in public domain here and I as one of the user here can very well quote your own personal matter against you ! That is why in Law we say a black and white matter placed for scrutiny sometimes goes against the same person so learn these court craft tricks lady during your time pass days here even though you per se may not like me which is not my issue J ……………


Have u seen Ramani's first post in this thread??Who started Personal first????????He u got a right to report abuse????How???and why???
Take: Ask him why shall I speak for him on this que. He is capable to defend himself I suppose. BTW in Law each one is for h/er own capabilities and for threading h/er own path and there is no favor Law provides a person (generic said) J

BTW, “Kritikas” means STARS so why showing “innocent hurt” and crawilign to Admin reporting so called hai Rama ji “ghor abuse ho gaya iss forum mai”. Are you not STAR of LCI – compliment I gave by placing Three Stars to you there atleast it shall be better than getting Legal Books under LCI Reward program, anyhow reading English is problem with you so how can you read and then understand reward point given legal books now-a-days given to high Thumbs up scorers each month by LCI. J

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Originally posted by :Saurabh..V

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I appreciate you que. to me.......

- Interim maintenace is granted on reasonable grounds where the court is satisfied of the grounds on which the maintenance is sought. If the wife refuses to live with the husband solely on the ground that he has shifted residence from Dubai to India due to compelling reasons then do you feel she is entitled for seperate residence??
Take: Let me clarify with "my feeling" Law does not wheel. Had it been so in re.  to S. 125 CrPC the moment a metro wife alleges in her Application "my husband has refused to maintain me as he left me to my natal home instead of caring for me even during child birth" the entire context "prime facie" goes for a toss. "Refusal ti lie" rebuttal in majority of ld. Courts are taken as "evidence matter" atleast this much you shall agree having read several citations is my view. In instance brief without touching 'compelling reason" which are all matter of "trial mans evidence" I made principal underlying "perception" of ld. Courts (trial courts). Now the que. we shall ask is how many Indian husbands are lucky on "prime facie" stage all India level to get "no interim maint. Orders" simply on above "trial allegations" Think aloud..............Now I do agree to MRA fact which should have been underlying spirit even during "prime facie" stage but that is nobody’s case here !
 

If answer is yes, then I feel every married woman on earth could enjoy free trips and stays at every known city of the world like London, Paris, Sydney etc etc etc...
Take: No comments onto this, it is a persuasive take. Sometimes wishes are not what one sees in Order Sheets ld. friend. It takes lots of efforts a social engineering skills to see light on one shot. It is other matter I may or may not agree but  I reserve my thoughts on it qua authors briefs. 
 
 
"Panchayat is a legal identity" in our judicial system now. Lok-Panchayat / Gram-Panchayat etc have the power for local judicial services. However, even if presumed otherwise, when prominent and respected members of panchayat give their evidence in court about the mediation and behaviour of the parties, wouldn't it be judicially acceptable as evidence?
Take: Yes Panchayat is legal Authority I agree only upto this line. Yes next line I too agree. well onto third line there could ne doubt on "pre-assumed otherwise" kar key why otherwise when it is already there in defining such Authorities ! Now here comes the catch when same principals are apllied on Personal Laws and personal practices of a couple. Has this husband clarified anywhere that his Personal Law practices Panchayat’s pronouncements? Further What does Hon'ble SC says on Punchayat pronouncement  qua matrimonial personal Laws !


Fix that and clarity comes that only those personal Laws which have a Punchayat sanctity of authority to mediate and pronounce Authority to a couples problem are only recognised by Hon'ble SC and none other. That is where the catch lis is I hope I am clarified.

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