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Civil services conduct rules

(Querist) 23 June 2016 This query is : Resolved 
Sir

Please answer Whether Government servant can submit joint representations in the matters of common interest? Could you cite relevant provisions

Sudhir Kumar, Advocate (Expert) 24 June 2016
Not permissible.
Guest (Expert) 24 June 2016
When you are asking question under civil service conduct rules, asking for relevant provisions has no relevance. The set of those rules in themself contain the said provisions. Please read that carefully. Otherwise discuss the real problem, as your query is merely of academic nature.
R.K Nanda (Expert) 24 June 2016
Academic query.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 24 June 2016
You have received the answer from Mr. Sudhir Kumar, Mr. P.S.Dhingra.



Post full facts.
Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 24 June 2016
Agree with the expert PS Dhingra.
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 25 June 2016
Well advised by experts, nothing more to add.
T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate (Expert) 29 June 2016
You may answer the clarifications sought by expert Mr. Dhingra for getting more opinions.
panthoi92 (Querist) 30 June 2016
query was im state govt employee as teacher(under CCCR), we had submitted joint representation in objecting seniority list. On that the authority (director) has threatened us to reply with show cause why action should not taken against us within 7 days.
On my research on the net, i was not able to locate in CCC Rules and I find sentences mentioning in swamys handbook with no punishment mentioned. and randomly i found some 1967 circular with not entertaining such joint representation but not full order to quote.
THANK YOU
Guest (Expert) 30 June 2016
Conduct Rules indicate that what type of activities of the employees can be treated as misconduct on his part, not punishment, the penalties are mentioned the CCS (CCA) Rules, which prescribes nature of penalties and procedure for taking disciplinary action also before giving punishment. So, don't try to mix up two things. If you want to find nature of penalties in swamy's handbook, you may read the chapter on disciplinary proceedings.

So far as the threat of the authority is concerned, he need not give verbal threat, as he is well withing his right to issue show casuse notice or charge sheet to the employees for their misconduct, as joint representation is prohibited in conduct rules and is treated as miconduct.
T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate (Expert) 30 June 2016
I believe the author is satisfied with the convincing reply and he follows the next step as per the laid down rules in this regard.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 30 June 2016
if the authority ( Director) has issued Show cause Notice then reply within stipulated time.


Prefer to consult seasoned and very able service matters expert for structuring the reply.
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 30 June 2016
I agree with the experts advise, proceed as advised.

You have not been issued any show cause notice, memo of charge and reply thereto, instituted any inquiry hence no action has been initiated.

Oral threat is meaningless, just be warned.

Did you form an association/union; if so is it registered?

Sudhir Kumar, Advocate (Expert) 30 June 2016
Joint representation is misconduct.


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