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Terms and conditions applicable to on campus parties.

(Querist) 21 July 2014 This query is : Resolved 
Sir/ sirs,
On what conditions a company should be allowed to conduct campus interview within the college to recruit students and can the College be blamed while knowing that the recruiter has performed fraudulent with the employees? and can the students demand compensation from both the college and company for all hardships?
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 22 July 2014
Is it a legal query? Is this platform meant for such testing/examining questions, like explain the conditions...; blaming the college...; demand for compensation by students....?

@ Admin
Kindly filter such query.
malipeddi jaggarao (Expert) 22 July 2014
What exactly your problem?
Devi Rudra (Querist) 22 July 2014
sorry sir,
I didnt know in which category does this quest will lie and so i opted Civil Law.

my Query is : the company walked in has misguided the students of X college. But the other thing is that the College was one who let the path to that Company vide Campus Interview. While the facts remain so, against whom will the fault lies and against whom the case should be sued ?

Devi Rudra (Querist) 22 July 2014
Anyhow a college should have certain terms and conditions to take up Campus Interview of one Company right? kindly tell what are such conditions.
P. Venu Online (Expert) 22 July 2014
At present, there appears to be no law or regulation. Anyhow, matter could be taken up with the University or the UGC etc. for taking note of the mischief and putting in place remedial measures.

For the time being, remedy may be available under tort.
malipeddi jaggarao (Expert) 22 July 2014
You have not yet disclosed what type of fraud the company committed by conducting campus interviews and how you have been affected by their acts. Do not give the information on piece meal basis as any advice on such fractured information will not serve the purpose.
ajay sethi (Expert) 22 July 2014
vague query . state complete facts
ADV-JEEVAN PATIL, MUMBAI (Expert) 22 July 2014
1)Campus recruitment in college is understanding BTW colle n co.Oral or in writing n may not be termed as contract.
2)However when u join with co. there is bound to become contract now n then. If u join n co voilets condition, u may take them to task contractually n not otherwise.
Hope u will agree.
Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 22 July 2014
College rules shall prevail hence study those rules.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 23 July 2014
Sir,
The company stated in the offer letter that the place of work will be haridvar, the pay per month will be Rs.20,000/- and the working hours per day will be between 9.00 am and 6.00pm but as the student moved to haridvar from their native, chennai, the student was intimated that the pay will be Rs. 8000/- per month and the working hour will be from 16 to 18 hours per day and the student already made to pay about 20,000/- for shelter and food facility.

since its an campus interview, wont the issue blame the college too. Once the Company is addressed by the College and entrusted so, the students accepted the offer availed by the college.

The issue completely relies on the college and teams on which the College allowed the company to conduct the campus interview.

Kindly advice me.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 23 July 2014
Sir,
where can i look the College rules? it tells the rules for a student and not between the Company conducting campus interview, college and the student.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 23 July 2014
thank you all for your time and hope the same whenever i need.

Thank you Hon'ble Experts!
malipeddi jaggarao (Expert) 24 July 2014
Ms.Devi Rudra - once you post a query here, you need to exercise some patience. We seek more information to help out. You have provided details and would like to close the query before the experts respond.

Anyway, it is a clear case of cheating the students. The College Management should obtain a written complaint from concerned student and take up the matter with the Company for misrepresenting the facts while conducting the campus interview. As the Company made the recruitees to pay Rs.20000/- which comes to more than 2.5 months salary, the college can even lodge a complaint against the company. The another step the college can take up is with the concerned Government's Labour Department.

I do agree this type of matters cannot be left free. Somebody has to bell the cat. Continue your efforts and see that such companies will not repeat their ploy on the unemployed professionals.
Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 24 July 2014
The company has definitely defrauded with the students who appeared in the interview in the college campus on the inspiration of the college management. Whatever rules/terms and conditions were told to student while their interview, shall be final and any deviation thereto do come within the ambit of fraud and cheating and thus a criminal case lies in that event.
P. Venu Online (Expert) 24 July 2014
It is too optimistic to hope that the College authorities would be able to address the malady. The past one decade or two has seen mushrooming of Engineering Colleges and most of them are substandard in faculty as well in the education imparted. They have found a short cut to excellence in arranging for campus placement. And many such colleges have placement officers who ensure that the students got selected somehow or other.
T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate (Expert) 24 July 2014
I full agree with the views of expert Mr. P.Venu. The college business is based on the advertisements they give on campus employment opportunities and they quite often display them on the compound walls of the college to impress and attract the students and their parents towards the college for admission. The subject fraud by some x company will certainly be in connivance of the college authorities and the company will be having the college's patronage unless the company will not dare to indulge in such a heavy fraudulent activity. Thus besides writing to college authorities exposing the company's fraudulent employment offer and false promise of career, a copy of the same may be endorsed to the Registrar/Vice Chancellor of the university to which the college is affiliated. The will ring loudly.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
sirs, @P. Venu & @ T. Kalaiselvan you both picked the point. only because of such attitude, the student suffer.

All the original evidence is with the College and so in a confusion how to move with the case.

On a wish to work at Haridvar, the student lost many good opportunities at the time of Campus as well as off campus.

I am quite clear with all your kind advises except the afore mentioned.

V R SHROFF (Expert) 25 July 2014
NO : is the Answer
As voluntary..

opportunity availed to students !! only premises, so no travel!!few may get benefited.
Perfect justice never exist............
Anirudh (Expert) 25 July 2014
Dear Devi Rudra,

College is only a facilitator in the interests of students. College will not and cannot be expected to take responsibility for what happens between the prospective employer and the student who gets an employment. College does not charge any fee from you to participate in the campus selection.

As a law graduate, I hope you know this much.

Now coming to the issue:
Did you get the appointment letter before leaving for Haridwar?

Does that letter clearly mention about your monthly salary, working hours etc?

Did you work with the Company and for how long? Did you get less pay than what was mentioned in the offer letter?

Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 25 July 2014
Colleges do promise the students at the time of admission that their placement shall be done in good companies and further that we shall arrange campus placement and generally such tall promises do fail either one or the other way.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
Sir,

@Anirudh: in the offer letter and in the mail sent by the company clearly contains the details of Pay that it will be Rs.20,000/- and the working hours will be between 9.00 am and 6.00pm.

but in the letter given to sign by the student before starting their physical work at company, it was stated that the pay will be Rs.8000/- and the working hours will be of 2 shifts each 8 hours per day.

at the moment the student became weak and afraid to continue further and resigned the job.

at present 4 students have come back to hometown.

Sir,

@raj kumar makkad : i wouldnt have worried if the student is left unemployed but being a trusted part of the campus interview, they shouldnt have laid path to the cheat company rite ?

Anirudh (Expert) 25 July 2014
Is it a law firm or something else?

Did you people not do any due diligence about the company before even thinking of attending the campus interview?

Is it the first time that the company has conducted campus interview in your college?

Was not there anybody from the previous batch from your college who were hired by the company?

Was not there any feedback from those people about the bad experience if any?

Further more, being a law graduates, what made you to sign a letter which is totally different from the offer letter and why did you people not call for the police and lodge a complaint of cheating etc.?
Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 25 July 2014
One cannot be permitted to take undue benefit of his own carelessness.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
@raj kumar makkad: sir, it is Campus interview. so will not the college be responsible for this?
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
@Anirudh : sir, relax....! its not a law firm or the matter about me. its about a student who approached me for clarification for the afore.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
@Anirudh:

sir, the College had intention to place how much ever students it can to place. so the college deliberately took risks in employments of the innocent students. being a university, it should have not been put the students into risk.

the term campus interview completely multiplies the trust between students since laid path by the college.

every student will agree and even the college.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
expect all possible views from you all experts. Thank u
Devi Rudra (Querist) 25 July 2014
@raj kumar makkad : sir, i accept your view in case of off Campus.

sir, do reply.
Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 27 July 2014
The responsibility of the college cannot be set aside completely. After all it has to maintain the trust deposed in it by innocent students. If the company fail to abide by its promises, the college administration is bound to intervene and ensure the compliance of the promises made within its campus.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 28 July 2014
Thank u sir.

@raj kumar makkad
Raj Kumar Makkad (Expert) 29 July 2014
You are most welcome.
Guest (Expert) 29 July 2014
Dear Ms. Devi Rudra,

The thread has gone extended extensively without any reason or rhyme, but you do not seem to made clear in any of the 14 of your posts in the thread, what exactly is your concern with the issue, whether as a representative of the college if college is being sued, as a representative of the any company to throw burden on college, or whether for fighting case on behalf of your own client?

You have stated in response to Shri Anirudh's query "its not a law firm or the matter about me, its about a student who approached me for clarification for the afore." Even you have clarified at a very late occasion that it is not a matter about you, but still you have not stated in what of your capacity the student expected clarification from you.

Had you made your own position clear, you could well have got appropriate reply from the experts in a very few posts, rather than keeping the experts in guessing position, whether a student is asking, a lawyer or represetative of a law firm is asking, or asking on behalf of the company or the college, etc., for clarification.

However, to make it clear for you, the intention of companies on campus recruitment is always to have cheaper talents out of the freshers, while the interest of students is always to get easily selected without running from pillar to post after college. They also feel proud of such selection, if get easily selected on campus. So, interest of both the parties is served. It is for the selected students to properly examine the terms & conditions of the companies before signing any agreement with the company. Element of cheating in on campus recruitment cannot be overruled, but the legal departments of the companies try to plug the loopholes of such recruitment or not to be sighted easily.

No doubt interest of college is also served in attracting more and more talents out of their students on the plea of maximum number of on campus selection, but cannot be held responsible in any way for any flaw in such recruitments, the agreement being between the company and the student only. The college is not made party of any such agreement.
T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate (Expert) 29 July 2014
In a suit, college management can be impleaded as a respondent for allowing such unscrupulous company to have their day cheating the innocent students who in the dream of an employment career do not pay much attention to the alleged items and ultimately stand to suffer being victimized or exploited. Bell the cat, let its ringing sound reach all those who are likely to be cheated by such false promises.
Devi Rudra (Querist) 29 July 2014
sir,

@PS Dhingra

I adhere with your contents. I affected student is my friend and i knew 8 more student of her own batch.

Thank U so much for such kind clarification.

but the students have no guts or aim to sue against the company since any student is not willing to burden their parents.

i am a law student and to recognize the real ground of the incident, i seek out u such Experts' guidance and i too found to the core.

Thank u all !!
Guest (Expert) 29 July 2014
Dear Ms. Devi Rudra,

I have given my bviews to clarify the position, as far as possible. No more to add. I still hold that the college cannot be held responsible. The matter is between the company and the student, if the leter feels cheated. A studnt must be careful not to fall in to the net of ny such company.


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