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Null and void marriage

(Querist) 01 May 2017 This query is : Resolved 
the marriage never occured officially and unofficially or neitherr of religious nature, I need to get a null and void marriage decree or decree of nullity of marriage, for the same what documents are needed ?

Thank you.
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Quite strange description! If "marriage never occured officially and unofficially or neitherr of religious nature," why you need decree for any event that did not occur?

Any decree cannot be sought for non-existent things.

The question arises, if you have been living with some lady, with what concern, aim, reason, relation or background so far and why now you want to get rid of that lady?
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Mutual Separation in Living together relationship doesn't require divorce unless and until the Other Side comes out with any claims.
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
In 2013 Under Domestic Violence Act the Supreme Court had come up with Guide Lines to Protect the Women in Live in relationship
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Supreme Court Bench of Honorable Justice MY Eqbal and Amitava Roy had said" Where a man and woman are proved to have lived together as husband and wife ,the law will presume unless the contrary is clearly proved that they were living together in consequence of valid marriage and not in the state of concubinage"
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Mr. NJS Rajkumar,

Probably, you prefer to rely on your own presumptions without the querist having come forward even with the slightest background and the facts of the case!
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
John Geddes _said- "..... here's What I have Learnt-people will hurt you,but you dont have to respond - not every mean comment or cruel act deserves to be noticed "
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Boyd Rice-said-No,seriously I dont have much ill-will towards any one these days,I Just Ignore.
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Winston .S.Churchill-said- "You have Critics -Good-That means you have stood up for some thing ,some time in Life.
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
But, you have responded in spite of John Gededes advice. By the way, who he was, a Bishop, a cyclist, a journalist, a politician, or another journalist of some other country?
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Even Winston Churchill's saying does not seem to fit in your case, as you seemed to have stood up for nothing, as against "something."
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Dr.John Geddes-MD,FRCP - Director and Professor of Epidemological Psychiatory.NIHR Oxford. Email johngeddes@psych.ox.ac.uk.Tel +44(0)1865 618 202(appointments could be fixed with his PA Lucy Cartin)Address Posted on Request Only
Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
Visit at your location a senior and very able counsel of unquestionable repute and integrity specializing in Family matters and personal law that applies in your case and show all docs on record and give your inputs in person and understand the options and merits in each option.



You can also have a discussion with scholars of your faith,sect/sub-sect.




Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
There is nothing strange in your query.

There are essentials for a valid marriage.


Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
Nisankotch: Shighar se shighra aapke shahr me, Varishth avam imaandar avam Family Matters ke kanoon me nipun, , vakil sahib se milen.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
Nisankotch: Shighar se shighra aapke shahr me, Varishth avam imaandar avam apke upar lagoo Personal law Matters ke kanoon me nipun, , Vidwaan/Scholar se milen.
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Dear NJS Rajkumar,

Very smart! Before quoting any saying, you were expected to be aware about the real author. Apparently, you are mistaken. The quoted does not belong to Dr.John Geddes-MD,FRCP. He did not write any fiction from which this saying has been taken.

Better recheck to know which John Geddes was the real author of the saying. You may even check from the Doctor by contacting personally.
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rajeev sharma (Expert) 01 May 2017
Strange! instead of discussing the query we are discussing who said what.The querist at the very beaning says marriage never occurred officially, unofficially or religiously. This is an another way of saying that the couple is living in relationship. Some may say that i am presuming things but that is the only logical conclusion one may draw.So if Mr. Narasimha tendered advise based on this presumption nothing was wrong in that If other experts do not want to take risk of presuming that too is well. Mr Dhingra is also right when he says that a decree may not be sought for non existent things. live in relationship, surrogacy, single parenthood,IVF pregnancy are so many things which law does not recognize but society is adopting. WE have to take a pragmatic view in social matters and that is what our courts are doing .
Guest (Expert) 01 May 2017
Mr. Rajeev Sharma,

If anyone is fond of responding to some hypothetical query without knowing the case history, nobody can prohibit him doing so.

About pragmatic view, that can be taken according to realities of life not on hypothesis, particularly on legal angles, as we can't expect law to deal with assumptions, presumptions and hypothesis. We should not forget that the author has not made any mention about live in relationship, surrogacy, single parenthood,IVF pregnancy, etc., or what type of relations he developed with the lady and with which Indian system of family laws for which he wants to get rid of the lady by getting a legal decree, but having not already gone through any legal process in establishing any such relation.
rajeev sharma (Expert) 01 May 2017
Dhingra Sir you are senior to me and have more experience of life and law. But many time i have find that law has to deal with situations which are queer than the real situations contemplated under law . The situations i narrated in my earlier post are some examples. The total law is based on hypothesis. Framers of law hypotheses a situation then makes a law to provide for those situation.Total jurisprudence is based on conjecture and conception that is why it is pragmatic and prospective in nature
.As a professional I have found people circumlocuting in tacky matters and as a professional i had to decipher the real intent
Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
There are essentials for a valid marriage.


You have not posted again after posting the query.


Take help of a senior and very able counsel at your location, of unquestionable repute and integrity specializing in Family matters and personal law that applies in your case and show all docs on record and give your inputs in person and understand the options and merits in each option.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 01 May 2017
Is it same query:


http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Void-marriage-639986.asp
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate (Expert) 02 May 2017
I may be better that experts do not invest their energy and expertise unless the queriest has decency of sharing facts.


Given sentences do not at all indicate any hint on what the problem is.
Guest (Expert) 02 May 2017
Dear Rajeev Sharma,

No doubt, laws are framed based on perceptions and assumptions, but taking in to view about the imagination of real life problems. But are made applicable only on real life events, not on presumptions. Still further, the same also get amended based on real life events, not on presumptions.

When someone asks question without discussing any problem, there is no limit or length of bringing out a series of tutorials to be based merely on assumptions and presumptions without knowing any background.

So, if someone is fond of framing and imparting tutorials, nobody can prohibit any such person. He can do so at his sweet will.
Guest (Expert) 02 May 2017
Mr. NJS Rajkumar,

Have not yet you been able to find out whether the saying belongs to some medical professional or some fiction writer?
Kumar Doab (Expert) 03 May 2017
Agreeing with Mr. Rajeev Sharma.


The tacky matters are posted and efforts has to be made to decipher.
Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 03 May 2017
State clear material facts.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 03 May 2017
Agar baat bahut jyadaa bar chuki hai or aap apne aap nahi sambhaal pa rahe to bina vilamb ke apke shahr me vakil sahib se vartalaap karen.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 03 May 2017
Online forums ka apna ek simit dayraa hota hai.


Ye amane saamne vakil sahib se ki jaane vaali charchaa ka sthaan nahi le sakte.



Online Foums (Internet Based ) par aiase bahut se jhuthe or makkar kisam ke log bhi ghumte rahte hain jinka maksad sirf bhole bhale muvakkil to bahla fusla kar paisa ainthnaa hota hai.



Apna bachaav savayam karen.


Apke parivar ke bare bujurag, aapke mitar gan ityaadi aapko, aapke hi shahr me, kaabil or imaandar vakil sahib ke bare me bata sake hain.


Inse bhi charchaa karen.


Aapko labh hoga.


Aapka shubh ho.

Guest (Expert) 03 May 2017
Agree with Mr.RK Goyal


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