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Raj Kumar Makkad (Adv P & H High Court Chandigarh)     16 July 2010

FRANCE BANS THE BURQA

The idea of a cohesive society in the age of freedom, liberalisation, diversity and globalisation within the boundaries of a nation-state has received a big boost with the Lower House of the French Parliament adopting a Bill (it was voted 355-1, indicating absolute unanimity barring the lone naysayer) banning the burqa in public places. The stated purpose behind the proposed law — the Bill will now be debated in the Upper House, where it is expected to get a majority vote, before it is scrutinised by a constitutional oversight body — is to uphold France's cherished values of equality and dignity for all: The burqa is seen, and rightly so, as a symbol of suppression of women in the name of religion. The French argue, and with justification, that there cannot be a cohesive society without a certain degree of uniformity; diversity should be cultural and not pegged to the assertive assertion of 'otherness'. The burqa, irrespective of what is claimed by mullahs and Islamists, is a vivid assertion of the 'otherness' of Muslims, as is the flaunting of the chequered kafiyeh, which has transmogrified into a symbol of Islam from a tribal headgear, by Muslim men. It is absurd to suggest, as is done by some Muslims and the clergy, that the burqa is about freedom of choice; it isn't. It is an imposition that is sought to be sanctified by citing theological texts that have little or no relevance in the 21st century as far as dress codes and social mores are concerned. We must also remember that there is something called childhood conditioning which plays a significant role in Muslim women donning the burqa 'willingly'.


There are other aspects to the French move which merit comment. For instance, should immigrants — and France's Muslims, barring those who migrated from Algeria when it was still a French colony, are just that; many of them entered the country seeking refugee status — use 'diversity' and 'multi-culturalism' as convenient covers to transplant their faith-based practices which clash with those of the host country? Britain, as also many other European countries, are now beginning to wake up to the folly of unrestrained multi-culturalism and over-emphasis on diversity: That which is alien is threatening to become dominant. So much so, schools funded by Saudi Arabia-based Islamic charities teach young Muslims in Britain that "Christians are pigs and Jews are dogs" and insist that any curbs on them would amount to denial of religious freedom and restrict diversity! There's a larger message for Islamists and those who see nothing wrong with Islamism: Europe is witnessing a blowback whose consequences could be less than happy for those who celebrate the burqa as an assertion of Muslim identity or flaunt the kafiyeh to declare their 'otherness' from the majority.

 

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     16 July 2010

what is there?

you have to were 'burqa' if you are indian muslim and your family desires so.

you have to wear 'ghunghat' if you are indian hindu and your family desires so.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     16 July 2010

what is there?

you have to were 'burqa' if you are indian muslim women and your family desires so.

you have to wear 'ghunghat' if you are indian hindu women and your family desires so.

adv. rajeev ( rajoo ) (practicing advocate)     17 July 2010

We should respect the laws of the land where we live.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     17 July 2010

mr rajeev,

if the law of the land is bad in nature then?

remember, britishers make india as their coloney, and it was  the then, law of the land.

RAJ KISHORE VAISH (TEACHER CITIZEN OF INDIA)     27 July 2010

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: cyrus Dalal <cyzadalal@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: Joys of Muslim Women
To: Tehmasp Mogul <tehmasp.mogul@gmail.com>


frightening

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, Tehmasp Mogul <tehmasp.mogul@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tehmasp Mogul <tehmasp.mogul@gmail.com>
Subject: Joys of Muslim Women
To:
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 5:48 PM





 


These are troubling times.

This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim. This is not heresy, and it will scare you.

Please make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.

 

 

 

Joys of Muslim Women

 

by Nonie Darwish

 

 

 

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have s*xual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9. The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

 

 

 

 

 

Even though a woman is abused, she can not obtain a divorce.

 

To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.

 

Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and the mandoes not have to say why he has beaten her.

 

 

 

The husband is permitted to have 4 wives and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

 

 

 

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

 

 

 

In the Western World (America) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.  It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

 

 

 

By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.

 

Ripping the West in Two

 

Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

 

 

 

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

 

 

 

Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel. He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .

 

 

 

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.

 

 

 

But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

 

 

 

In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

 

 

 

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

 

 

 

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

 

 

 

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

 

 

 

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

 

 

 

It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.

 

 

 

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

 

 

 

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. is one... and there are others...

 

 

 

I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

 

 

 

It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. the peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America ..

 

 

 

This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your email list or at least those you think will listen.

 

 



 




--
Col. Satish Dewan
DWARKA, NEW DELHI
Tel: +91-(0)11-42758414
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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     27 July 2010

MR VAISH,

WHAT ABOUT HINDU'S?

EVERYTHING ALRIGHT?

RAJ KISHORE VAISH (TEACHER CITIZEN OF INDIA)     28 July 2010

DEAR SIR ,

             THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HINDU'S AND MUSLIMS IS ONLY OF "JIHAD ' IN MY VIEW .HINDU RESPECT THE LAND LAWS WHERE THEY LIVE.

Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist)     28 July 2010

Good Information Mr Vaishji. Keep it up

 

Arup ji, what hindus today are due to the misrule/oppressive rule of Muslim Invaders and Britishers. They ruled and rotten/wounded our civlizatio/culture with the help of black sheeps (Gaddars elements in Hindus) present in hindus who have back stabed their own fellow coutrymen/brothers. This is still going on. Appeasement has crossed its' zenith.

Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist)     28 July 2010

Arupji,

In our ancient culture, women enjoyed all the liberty, never used Ghungat (veil). Ghungat (veil), child marriage, , “Jauher Pratha (Pacticed by Rajput females” and killing of a newly born girl child in a bath tub filled of milk, etc are outcome of cruelty/brutality of Muslim invaders and their rule. Since women especially young unmarried were easy prey and target during any invasion, war, arson, rioting, looting, plunders etc.  Presence and birth of a girl child was used to be considered as potential danger, an open invitation of disaster. Safety of girl was used to be only concern.

On the other hand during Gupta Dynasty and other good Indian King’s rule women have enjoyed high respect and all kind of liberty.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     31 July 2010

mr jaiswal,

what you wrote about hinds and muslims are your personal views and not true.

your these postings are full of communal attitude and not reality.

i have come in this thread for posting of the following matter but seeing  your communal postings i am offended.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     31 July 2010

Yes Mr Raj, it is your personal views. not bare fact.  -  the bare fact is something elese.

 

WE THE INDIAN - HINDUS AND MUSLIMS BOTH, TRIED OUR BEST TO DOMINATE THE FEMALES, BY THIS OR THAT MANNERS.

 

We should ACCEPT IT.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     31 July 2010

WOMENS LIB STARTED AT DELHI, BUT  A T CALCUTTA IT TAKES SHAPE OF A POPULAR A MOVEMENT, BY THE HELP OF COMMUNISTS, - INITIALLY.

 

EITHER BJP OR MUSLIM LEAGUE NEVER ABLE TO ROOTED THEIR DEEPLY.

 

BUT NOW A DAYS, THE SO CALLED ' MUSLIM  TUSTIKARAN POLICY'  SO DEEPLY ROOTED THAT ONE SYUDENT'S UNION DEMANDING THAT - THEIR FEMALE TEACHER HAS TO WEAR BURQA TO COME TO COLLEGE. THE COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION, TRANSFERED HER.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     31 July 2010

PLEASE READ STUDENT'S INSTEAD OF SYUDENT'S.

MUSLIM  TUSTIKARAN POLICY

THE WORD 'TUSTIKARAN' IS HINDI WORD. ANY LEARNED MEMBER PLEASE PUT IT'S ENGLISH TRANSLATION. THANK'S FOR THE SAME.

Satyaprakash Sharma (Advocate & Legal Consultant)     31 July 2010

Mr. Arup,

I am unable to understand that in replyng Mr.Rajeev's post, you are actually supporting the French ban on Burqa OR opposing it (And supporting the domination of MALES over FEMALES).

 

I am unable understand whether you want to say that though muslims MALES are trying to dominate muslims FEMALES, it is Ok, because HIndus (or say Indians) are doing the same. IF I SAY THAT, IF HINDUS WERE/ARE DESIRING THEIR BRIDES TO WEAR "GHOONGHAT" IS BAD AND CONDEMNABLE, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE.

As regard, Indian history is concernec, I completely agree with Mr. Jayaswal and I have evidence and propoer reason to do so.


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