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Sober (JWO)     08 May 2012

Pay protection for exservicemen in central govt

Hello Everybody, I am an EX-Serviceman retired from Indian Air Force after 22 years of  regular combatant service (in the rank Junior Warrant Officer (JWO) . I am a pensioner and going to join Central Board of Excise and Customes as Tax Asst shortly.

While in Air Force I was drawing a  grade pay of Rs. 4200(Basic Pay in Band was 11510).  My  query is regarding pay protection, am I antitled for protection in the new job? As tax asst my basic will be much lower (around Rs. 7000 only) and grade pay will be Rs. 2400. If I am entitled for pay protection then what about my gratuity etc. am  I supposed to returned it? if yes am  I entitled for gratuity again at the end of my new job (tax asst)  at that time whether my length of service in Air Force will be counted for claculating gratuity?. PLEASE CLARIFY AND GUIDE ME........



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Sober (JWO)     11 May 2012

Hello Everybody, I am an EX-Serviceman retired from Indian Air Force after 22 years of  regular combatant service (in the rank Junior Warrant Officer (JWO) . I am a pensioner and going to join Central Board of Excise and Customes as Tax Asst shortly.

While in Air Force I was drawing a  grade pay of Rs. 4200(Basic Pay in Band was 11510).  My  query is regarding pay protection, am I antitled for protection in the new job? As tax asst my basic will be much lower (around Rs. 7000 only) and grade pay will be Rs. 2400. If I am entitled for pay protection then what about my gratuity etc. am  I supposed to returned it? if yes am  I entitled for gratuity again at the end of my new job (tax asst)  at that time whether my length of service in Air Force will be counted for claculating gratuity?. PLEASE CLARIFY AND GUIDE ME........


 

rohit (citizen)     15 August 2012

hi, i m true expert in all govt. policies

Department's 
O.M. No. 3/13/2008-Estt. (Pay II) dated 11th November, 2008 on the 
above-mentioned subject. Certain reference have been received 
seeking clarification regarding the manner of fixation of pay of 
retired defence Force personnel/officers re-employed in central 
Government Civilian posts, after the implementation of CCS (RP) 
Rules,2008. This has been considered in consultation with 
Department of Expenditure. The pay fixation of re-employed 
pensioners in Central Government, including that of Defence 
Force personnel/ officers, is being done in accordance with 
CCS (fixation of pay of re-employed pensioner) Orders, 1986, issued 
vide this Department's O.M. No. 3/1/85-Estt. (Pay II) dated 
31st July, 1986 (as revised from time to time). 

2. After the introduction of the system of running pay bands and 

grade pays, it has been decided to amend the relevant provision of 
CCS (fixation of pay of re-employed pensioners) Order, 1986 in the 
manner indicated below:- 

Existing provision 
Para 4(a) Re-employed pensioners shall be allowed to draw pay only 

in the prescribed scales of pay of the posts in which they are re-employed. 
No protection of the scales of pay of the posts held by them prior to 
retirement shall be given. 
Proposed revised provision 
Para 4(a): Re-employed pensioners shall be allowed to draw pay only in 
the prescribed pay scales/pay structure of the post which they are
re-employed. No protection of the scales of pay/pay structure of the post 
held by them prior to retirement shall be given. 

Note: Under the provisions of CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, revised pay structure 

comprises the grade pay attached to the post and the applicable pay band. 

Existing provision 
Para 4(b)(i): In all cases where the pension is fully ignored, the initial pay 
on re-employed shall be fixed at the minimum of scales of the re-employed 
post. 

Proposed revised provision 
Para 4(b)(i): In the cases where the pension is fully ignored, the 
initial pay on re-employed shall be fixed as per entry pay in therevised 
pay structure of the re-employed post applicable in the case of direct 
recruits appointed on or after 1.12006 as notified vide Section II, Part A 
of First Schedule to CCS (RP) Rules, 2008. 

Existing provision 
Para4(b)(ii): In cases where the entire pension and pensionary benefits 
are not ignored for pay fixation, the initial pay on re-employed shall be 
fixed at the same stage as the last pay drawn before retirement, If there 
in no such stage in the re-employed post, the pay shall be fixed at the 
stage next above that pay. If the maximum of the pay scales in which a 
pensioner is re-employed is less that the maximum of the scales of pay 
of the re-employed post. Similarly, if the minimum of the scales of pay 
in which a pensioner is re-employed is more than the last pay drawn by 
him before retirement, his initial pay shall be fixed at the minimum of 
the scales of pay of the re-employed post. However, in all these cases, the 
non-ignorable part of the pensions hall be reduced from the pay so fixed. 

Proposed revised provision 
Para 4(b)(ii): In cases where the entire pension and pensionary benefits
 
are not ignored for pay fixation, the initial basic pay on re-employed shall 
be fixed at the same stage as the basic pay drawn before retirement, 
However, he shall be granted the grade pay of the re-employed post. The 
maximum basic pay cannot exceed the grade pay of the re-employed post 
plus pay in the pay band of Rs. 67000 i.e. the maximum of the pay band 
PB-4. In all these cases, the non-ignorable part of the pension shall be 
reduced from the pay so fixed. 

Illustration 

A Colonel who retired with basic pay of Rs. 61700 (grade pay Rs.8700; pay 

in the pay bands Rs.53000) is re-employed as a Deputy Secretary in an 
organization with grade pay of Rs. 7600. In this case, on re-employment, 
his basic pay will continue to be Rs. 61700. However, his grade pay on 
re-employment will be Rs.7600 and the pay in the pay band Rs. 54100. 
Thereafter, the non-ignorable part of the pension will be reduced from 
the pay so fixed. 

Note; In the revised pay structure, basic pay is pay in the pay band plus 

the grade pay attached to the post. 
Existing provision 
Para 4(c): The re-employed pensioner will, in addition to pay as fixed
 
under Para (b) above shall be permitted to draw separately any pension 
sanctioned to him and to retain any other from of retirement benefits. 

Proposed revised provision 
Para 4(c): No change.
 

Existing provision 
Para 4(d): In the case of pension retiring before attaining the age of 

55 year and who are re-employed, pension (including PEG and other 
forms for initial pay fixation in the following extent:- 

(i) In the case of ex-servicemen who held posts below Commissioned 

Officer rank in the Defence Forces and in the case of civilians who held 
posts below Group 'A' posts at the time of their retirement, the entire 
pension and pension equivalent of retirement benefits shall be ignored. 

(ii) In the case of services officers belonging to the Defence Forces and 

Civilian Pensioner who held 'A' posts at the time of their retirement, the 
first Rs.500/-* of the pension and pension equivalent retirement 
benefits shall be ignored. (*Already revised to Rs.4000/- vide O.M.
No. 3/13/2008-Estt. (pay II) dated 11th November, 2008) 

Propored revised provision 
Para 4(d): in the case of persons retiring before attaining the age of 

55 year and who are re-employed, pension (including Peg and other 
forms of retirement benefits) shall be ignored for initial fixation in
the following extent:- 

(i) No change. 
so as per query if u take pay protection then you will not dearness relief on your pension.Better take pay ii your new pay band (i.e BP-7560 and GP-2400 and DA and pension with DA) and  (After pay protection u will get BP-9110 and GP-2400 and DA and no DA ON basic pension)

SS Sian (Deputy Manager)     03 February 2015

Sir,

I am requested yourself to guide me at this crucial juncture of my life where I want to take a decision to plan my career.  I am planning to joining bank (awaiting interview).  You are requested to tell approx how much salary (total gross) I will get once my pay protection is done.  The details are :

Last Pay Certificate as per 6th CPC

Pay Band : 5200 – 20200

Pay as on 30.04.2008 : 9380

Grade Pay : 2800

MSP : 2000 (Notional)

DA 12% : 1462

GSB : 120

Total : 13762

MSP applicable w.e.f. 01.09.2008 not added in total.

Your help will go a long way in deciding my career.

Thanking you,

Sukhbir Singh

8146000897

chandra sekhar (st)     16 February 2015

sir,

I have selected in Indian Postal department as Postal Assistant. weather Indian Post offering Pay protection or not? If not how to get pay protection as I am an ex-seervicemen


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