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sunil sharma (Manager)     21 October 2011

How to marriage with my father's sister's daughter

Hi,

 

Me and my first cousin are in love with each other and we wish to marry. She is the daugher of my Father's younger sister. We are Hindu (Brahmin) and both of us are adults. I am financially stable in karnataka and perfectly capable of taking care of her and our family thereof (should this matter). I have the following questions:

 

1) Is this marriage allowed under Hindu Marriage Act or any other special act applicable to Hindus?

 

2) We belong to West haryana; but I am not sure whether there is a local or community tradition supporting such marriages (from the legal perspective). I have seen some cases of such marriage but I am not sure whether they enjoy a valid legal status. Kindly cite any past judgements which have favoures such marriages in the community (W.B).

 

3) Does the state (within India) where we intend to marry have any legal bearing on the marrriage. Or to put it differently, does the interpretation of the act differ in one state and the other?. If so, are which Indian state offers the most legal protection for such couples?

 

4) Is it possible to get married in Arya Samaj Mandir under Arya Samaj Hindu rites and then get the marriage registered by the Marriage officer/Registrar of the particular state so as to get a Marriage certificate issued. Will such a certificate be valid in the court of law inspite of the consanguinity in marriage?

5) Lastly, in case such a marriage cannot be made valid under any Hindu Act / Civil Act, what are the legal chanllenges for the future generation (succession, etc). Can any individual ( say, our family members) forcibily separate us in connivance with the authorities? Can we go to court and get legal protection considering that we are willing adults and perfectly capable of taking decisions regarding our life?

 

You would appreciate that this is very critical for both of us. We would still be ready to be ostracized by our families or society, so as our act is legal and would not cause any hardships to the future generation.

 

Note that I would be separtely looking at the medical challenges and undergo a pre-marriage genetic counselling (there are reports that the genetic risk is overrated).

 

I love her soo much, please let me know from you as we are very much tring to be live togher.

please suggest to do me the needful so that she would be my wife as per indian LAW.

 

please must reply

 

Thanks, in advance.



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Nadeem Qureshi (Advocate/ nadeemqureshi1@gmail.com)     21 October 2011

Dear Sunil

you can not marry her under hindu law and special marriage act too

due to

Degree of Prohibited Relationship

1. Mother
2. Father's widow (step-mother)
3. Mother's mother
4. Mother's father's widow (step grand-mother)
5. Mother's mother's mother
6. Mother's mother's father's widow (step-great-grandmother)
7. Mother's father's mother
8. Mother's father's father's widow (step-great-grandmother)
9. Father's mother
10. Father's father's widow (step-grandmother)
11. Father's mother's mother
12. Father's mother's father's widow (step-great-grandmother)
13. Father's father's mother
14. Father's father's father's widow (step-great-grandmother)
15. Daughter
16. Son's widow
17. Daughter's daughter
18. Daughter's son's widow
19. Son's daughter
20. Son's son's widow
21. Daughter's daughter's daughter
22. Daughter's daughter's son's widow
23. Daughter's son's daughter
24. Daughter's son's son's widow
25. Son's daughter's daughter
26. Son's daughter's son's widow
27. Son's son's daughter
28. Son's son's son's widow
29. Sister
30. Sister's daughter
31. Brother's daughter
32. Mother's sister
33.Father's sister
34. Father's brother's daughter
35. Father's sister's daughter
36. Mother's sister's-daughter
37. Mother's brother's daughter

 

sunil sharma (Manager)     21 October 2011

I am living in rajasthan since i born and I have a domosile of Rajasthan and the girl have adomosile od Haryana....

I am staying in karnataka since past 7 years, can it is possible that i can marry her in karnataka as in karnataka the custom allows the cousin marriage as per the special merriage act 1955.

what is the Exect problem....sapanda relationship or  digree od probhited relationship.,

 

just go throug the attached link andd see...in this lawers are saying that the

A boy can marry his mother's brother's Daughter.

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Marriage-with-cross-cousin-31687.asp.

sunil sharma (Manager)     21 October 2011

I just want that she can live with me legaly........wather it may be by doing marriage or any other option as per Law so that her parents can't take a support of Law to take her away from me............kindly suggest us any option to live toghter....

Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer)     21 October 2011

Under Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 marriage between first cousins of all types is prohibited. But if such marriage is customary in a community, it is permitted. Generally in the South, marriage between first cross-cousins is regularly practiced. But I do not think that the permissibility of such marriages is not based on the State in which such a marriage takes place, but on the community to which such couples belong. Marriage between first cousins, whether parallel or cross, is not permitted in most of North India. Hence I would think that first cousins, who belong to North Indian communities, cannot marry.

Marriage between brother and sister is prohibited the world over. The reason why consanguineous marriages are not permitted, is because the chances of the offspring inheriting congenital defects, is believed to be high. Hence law or no law, custom or no custom, it is advisable not to marry close relatives and to respect the Hindu Marriage Act in principle. Government has not codified Muslim marriage laws just only for political reasons. It is only for the same reason that Hindu Marriage Act precludes customary marriages from its purview. In the South marriage between maternal uncle and niece is permitted and is also very common. But it is my personal opinion that such marriages are atrocious.    

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K. GOPALAKRISHNAN (ADVOCATE)     21 October 2011

There is one possibility, you may insist your cousin to convert into another religion and there is a chance for you getting married.

Tajobsindia (Senior Partner )     21 October 2011

@ ld. Gopalakrishnan

If you may then;


A Supreme Court Bench consisting of Justice S. Saghir Ahmad and Justice R.P. Sethi passed a historic judgment on 5 May, 2000 which has almost given a death-blow to the phobia of the uniform civil code and has also sternly dealt with such persons who outwardly convert to Islam only for the purpose of contracting a second marriage thereby depriving the first wife of her legitimate, legal rights.

Reference - 2000 (4) Scale 176


The present judgment was passed in a petition seeking a review of the earlier judgment [See 1995 Vol.3 Supreme Court cases page 635) passed by a Bench consisting of Justice Kuldeep Sing and Justice RM Sahai (both now retired). Though the issue of Uniform Civil Code was not at all involved in the case before the court, even then Justice Kuldeep Singh in his separate judgment referring to the earlier Constitution Bench’s recommendation for a uniform Civil Code in the infamous Shah Bano judgment, directed the Central Govt. and the Prime Minister to legislate and implement the UCC and directed that a responsible officer of the Central Govt. shall file an affidavit after one year stating therein about the steps taken by the Govt. in this regard. It was further held that if a Hindu despite his Hindu wife, converts to Islam, and contracts a second marriage, his first marriage shall subsist and the second marriage shall be illegal and he shall be liable to be prosecuted and punished under section 17 of the Hindu Marriage Act and under Section 494 of the Indian Panel Code which prohibit second marriage during the subsistence of the first marriage.


The above judgment was challenged by the All India Muslim Personal Law Board and the Jamiat Ulema Hind etc on the ground that it violates the Fundamentals Rights guaranteed under Article 20, 21, 25 and 26 of the Constitution of India. According to Article 20 (1), a person can be convicted of an offence only when there was a law to that effect at the time of the commission of the offence. Article 21 guarantees right to a dignified life and personal liberty and Article 25 and 26 protect religious freedom.


I am open for further discussion on re. Sarla Mudgil case on above lines if any by your ld. self............

Tajobsindia (Senior Partner )     21 October 2011

oops

pls. ignore above post (it is on different footings)

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sunil sharma (Manager)     21 October 2011

If she convert to christen......then after merriage she would be again convert to hindu again after merriage.....means I have to be convert or we both have to be convert.......

please go through the attached link......is it would be right....

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Hindu-cousins-can-marry-after-converting-to-christianity-41558.asp

 

Is there any other option because I love Hinduism very lot......I want to be a part of Hindu Religion.

sunil sharma (Manager)     21 October 2011

I think where is Law, there is also some Liberation or reliefe...

I know that all the Greatest ADVOCATE are available at this site... I hope that with the Great experiance of you all...I would surely got a right Way....

Please Help Me...or Suggest me to do the needful..!!

 

Thank you

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b.k.sodhi (advocate)     21 October 2011

dear sunil sharma.if you intend to marry afirst cousin then you have to convert to christanity or islam .in arecent case  which icame across through this platform of lawyers club of india. but reconsider the matteras you may be left alone in this way.a man cannot live alone in the society.

Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer)     21 October 2011

If one of the two converts to another religion, as advised by Advocate Gopalakrishnan, then they can marry only under the Special Marriages Act, 1954. For marriages under that Act also the list given by Advocate Nadeem Qureshi will apply. The plea of Mr. Sunil Sharma reminds me of a play “Sambhavami Yuge Yuge” by Cho Ramaswamy, the journalist lawyer from Chennai. In that play there is a lawyer, who considers his profession as his Dharma as defined in the Gita. He helps people to evade income-tax, criminals to escape punishment etc. When he is asked why he is helping people to do the wrong things, he says that what he was doing was only his dharma as ordained by Lord Krishna in the Gita. It appears Mr. Sunil Sharma is also looking for a dharma-conscious lawyer. Hope the  lawyers out there are listening.

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Anand k (Professor)     22 October 2011

 

Please NOTE for Gods sake, don't enter into any marriage contract. Think twice. This is not advisable, medically. We should not think about how the world started and  how we are continuing our hereditary , the tree may be totally different. Our existence in this world has different meaning in this modern world.  After  all s*x is nothing and you will know this truth only when you become old like me. Don't regret later. This world is big enough and you can select anybody outside your family tree. Read good books on genes and this will open your eyes.

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sunil sharma (Manager)     22 October 2011

If it was the only Matter of s*x then i would never think for that.

As we love each other So, to be live toghter is a queastion right now....we know the importance of each other, thats why we are trying to get the answer.....

we are trying to find a way because we feels very happy when we are spending toghter....

 

my dear the person like you who made a relationship only for the S*X will never understand the feeling of love.....the importance of the person to whom you love the most....the feeling for someone who care you the most......the depth of the affection & love.....the rememberance of someone when you feel lonlyness...........!!

We know one thing that we are too much commited to each other........and we hope we will surely find a way & live toghter....!!

 

Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer)     22 October 2011

If you love your sister, would you marry her too?

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