Exclusive HOLI Discounts!
Get Courses and Combos at Upto 50% OFF!
Upgrad
LCI Learning

Share on Facebook

Share on Twitter

Share on LinkedIn

Share on Email

Share More

Do matrimonial laws REALLY FAVOR WOMEN?

Page no : 11

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     10 September 2010

ok, mr jogeshwar, thanks.

Nyaayapriya (Advocate for justice)     13 November 2010

Madame Aishwarya,

You don’t seem to have a clear and wholesome picture of the present day Indian women (erring wives), matrimonial laws, the judges and the advocates. Yours is case of a “frog in the well”. Whatever you thought it may not be more than 2% of the entire ocean of bad happenings in the matrimonial courts which are guided by Judges’ pro-women, whimsical misinterpretations and decisions and also worn out laws.

Even a learned counsel Sri Prabhakar, has jaundiced eyes with which he can see only yellow colour, not any other colours.

Hats off to Arunkumar, Swatirswatir and the legal fighter. At least to a some extent” they have unveiled the truth about the prevailing Indian matrimonial laws and life (really lop sided, bad and needs to revised, rewritten).

 

I keep telling. People to at least go a couple of rounds at the Family courts. You will see more than 95% of devastating wives, always conspiring to entangle their husbands in criminal cases and inevitably, without fail, squeezing them (husbands) for unreasonably huge huge amounts of maintenance. They are always focused on amassing money and wealth. Even the husbands are made to pay the Court costs.

THE PAINFUL, RIDICULOUS, AND AGONIZING FACT IS THAT THE HUSBANDS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THE DETAILS OF THEIR EXPENDITURES. THEY CAN NOT SEEK THE EXPLANATIONS(THOUGH THEY ARE THE PAYMASTERS!!!!!!!!! AND THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY CAN JUST GO LIKE THAT!!!!! WHAT A HORRIBLE RULE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A PARTIAL LAW IT IS!!!!!!!!

ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE WIFE CAN CALL FOR RECORDS, GO TO HER HUSBANDS’ WORK PLACE CREATE UGLY SCENES, FOR THIS WOMEN ARE LEFT UNPUNISHED.

Here is a typical judgment and case wherein the glaringly erring (criminal) wife has been let off without reason and rhyme.

 

 

 

WHAT A GREAT INJUSTICE TO MEN!!!!!!?????

Oh, HARASSED MEN AND SO CALLED ASSOCIATIONS PROTECTING THEM

RAISE AND AWAKEN, FIGHT IT OUT

            I read with great interest the judgment of the HIGH COURT OF JUDICATURE AT BOMBAY CIVIL APPELLATE JURISDICTION in FAMILY COURT APPEAL NO. 116 OF 2002 WITH FAMILY COURT APPEAL NO. 47 OF 2007.

 

The said petition for cancellation of permanent alimony by the and also MA No.7/01 requesting the court to take action against the wife by lodging a complaint for the offences under sections 193, 182, 196, 199, 200 and 201 of IPC, as the respondent wife had given false evidences before the court in earlier proceedings. The family court had decreed FA No.77/01 and thereby cancelled the order of grant of permanent alimony from the date of filing of petition. The incidental relief claimed by the husband which is in the nature of direction for return of amount of

maintenance paid by the husband to the wife came to be rejected. The court also rejected the MA No.7/01 for taking action against the respondent wife for leading false evidence before the Court.

Thus the questions for determination which arises in these appeals are (i) as to whether the family court is justified in cancelling the order of grant of permanent alimony and in refusing to issue direction against the wife to return the amount of maintenance already received? (ii) Is the court justified in rejecting the request made by the husband to take action against the respondent wife for leading false evidence?

In COMMON SENSE the answer for the first question should be

(a) Cancellation of the order of grant of permanent alimony is right. It is a clearly proven fact that the wife has erred to the maximum extent possible and hence she should reap the fruits.

Regarding the second part of it, it  is worth noting that the divorce has already happened. They are no more husband and wife. THEY WILL NOT HAVE (and they need not have also) any love, affection and/or soft corner for others. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY PARTED. When the former wife (NOW AN ORDINARY WOMAN) can go to the extent of telling lies, misrepresenting and misleading the Court to derive undue benefits WHY action SHOULD be refused and rejected?  If they were to be a happy husband and wife the problem would not have been there at all. With their mutual understanding it would have been settled. They would not have come to the Courts at all.  When the aggrieved party himself complains, pin points the crimes of the opponent (I do not want to call wife or woman)  and seeks relief how can he be denied relief?  Will any other ordinary woman who has committed a crime will be let off just like that in other cases? Can it be done at the cost of men? IT IS A GREAT INJUSTICE TO MEN. The said judgment is anti-men. Isn’t it so? THIS MEANS TO SAY THAT ERRING WIVES (AND ALSO FORMER WIVES) ARE FREE TO DO ANYTHING. ALL THEIR CRIMES AND UNTRUTHFULNESS ARE HONORABLE AND UNPUNISHABLE ACCORDING TO THE PRESENT SET UP OF LAWS AND JUDGES.

Imagine a man in the place of that woman in the above case. What would have been the judgment? Definitely he would have been sent to jail. What a cruel paradox indeed.

It is conspicuous that both the Courts in the above case have been cruel to men. It has blatantly rejected the just pleas of the former husband. The Courts have been convinced about the crimes of the woman (wife). And that woman is not an ordinary, rural, uneducated one. She is quite opposite to all that. But the judgment is quite contradicting the common perception of justice. At least the Courts should have taken a positive step in upholding the already worn out statements of EQUALITY AND JUSTICE. I am sure that the first part of the judgment will be of less consequence for the criminal wives. THIS JUDGMENT IS SURE TO SEND WRONG SIGNALS. IT LEGALISES AND ENCOURAGES FURTHER MORE CRIMES AGAINST MEN/HUSBANDS.

PLEASE FIGHT IT OUT.

 

Nyaayapriya (Advocate for justice)     13 November 2010

Madame Aishwarya,

You don’t seem to have a clear and wholesome picture of the present day Indian women (erring wives), matrimonial laws, the judges and the advocates. Yours is case of a “frog in the well”. Whatever you thought it may not be more than 2% of the entire ocean of bad happenings in the matrimonial courts which are guided by Judges’ pro-women, whimsical misinterpretations and decisions and also worn out laws.

Even a learned counsel Sri Prabhakar, has jaundiced eyes with which he can see only yellow colour, not any other colours.

Hats off to Arunkumar, Swatirswatir and the legal fighter. At least to a some extent” they have unveiled the truth about the prevailing Indian matrimonial laws and life (really lop sided, bad and needs to revised, rewritten).

 

I keep telling. People to at least go a couple of rounds at the Family courts. You will see more than 95% of devastating wives, always conspiring to entangle their husbands in criminal cases and inevitably, without fail, squeezing them (husbands) for unreasonably huge huge amounts of maintenance. They are always focused on amassing money and wealth. Even the husbands are made to pay the Court costs.

THE PAINFUL, RIDICULOUS, AND AGONIZING FACT IS THAT THE HUSBANDS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THE DETAILS OF THEIR EXPENDITURES. THEY CAN NOT SEEK THE EXPLANATIONS(THOUGH THEY ARE THE PAYMASTERS!!!!!!!!! AND THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY CAN JUST GO LIKE THAT!!!!! WHAT A HORRIBLE RULE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A PARTIAL LAW IT IS!!!!!!!!

ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE WIFE CAN CALL FOR RECORDS, GO TO HER HUSBANDS’ WORK PLACE CREATE UGLY SCENES, FOR THIS WOMEN ARE LEFT UNPUNISHED.

Here is a typical judgment and case wherein the glaringly erring (criminal) wife has been let off without reason and rhyme.

 

 

 

WHAT A GREAT INJUSTICE TO MEN!!!!!!?????

Oh, HARASSED MEN AND SO CALLED ASSOCIATIONS PROTECTING THEM

RAISE AND AWAKEN, FIGHT IT OUT

            I read with great interest the judgment of the HIGH COURT OF JUDICATURE AT BOMBAY CIVIL APPELLATE JURISDICTION in FAMILY COURT APPEAL NO. 116 OF 2002 WITH FAMILY COURT APPEAL NO. 47 OF 2007.

 

The said petition for cancellation of permanent alimony by the and also MA No.7/01 requesting the court to take action against the wife by lodging a complaint for the offences under sections 193, 182, 196, 199, 200 and 201 of IPC, as the respondent wife had given false evidences before the court in earlier proceedings. The family court had decreed FA No.77/01 and thereby cancelled the order of grant of permanent alimony from the date of filing of petition. The incidental relief claimed by the husband which is in the nature of direction for return of amount of

maintenance paid by the husband to the wife came to be rejected. The court also rejected the MA No.7/01 for taking action against the respondent wife for leading false evidence before the Court.

Thus the questions for determination which arises in these appeals are (i) as to whether the family court is justified in cancelling the order of grant of permanent alimony and in refusing to issue direction against the wife to return the amount of maintenance already received? (ii) Is the court justified in rejecting the request made by the husband to take action against the respondent wife for leading false evidence?

In COMMON SENSE the answer for the first question should be

(a) Cancellation of the order of grant of permanent alimony is right. It is a clearly proven fact that the wife has erred to the maximum extent possible and hence she should reap the fruits.

Regarding the second part of it, it  is worth noting that the divorce has already happened. They are no more husband and wife. THEY WILL NOT HAVE (and they need not have also) any love, affection and/or soft corner for others. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY PARTED. When the former wife (NOW AN ORDINARY WOMAN) can go to the extent of telling lies, misrepresenting and misleading the Court to derive undue benefits WHY action SHOULD be refused and rejected?  If they were to be a happy husband and wife the problem would not have been there at all. With their mutual understanding it would have been settled. They would not have come to the Courts at all.  When the aggrieved party himself complains, pin points the crimes of the opponent (I do not want to call wife or woman)  and seeks relief how can he be denied relief?  Will any other ordinary woman who has committed a crime will be let off just like that in other cases? Can it be done at the cost of men? IT IS A GREAT INJUSTICE TO MEN. The said judgment is anti-men. Isn’t it so? THIS MEANS TO SAY THAT ERRING WIVES (AND ALSO FORMER WIVES) ARE FREE TO DO ANYTHING. ALL THEIR CRIMES AND UNTRUTHFULNESS ARE HONORABLE AND UNPUNISHABLE ACCORDING TO THE PRESENT SET UP OF LAWS AND JUDGES.

Imagine a man in the place of that woman in the above case. What would have been the judgment? Definitely he would have been sent to jail. What a cruel paradox indeed.

It is conspicuous that both the Courts in the above case have been cruel to men. It has blatantly rejected the just pleas of the former husband. The Courts have been convinced about the crimes of the woman (wife). And that woman is not an ordinary, rural, uneducated one. She is quite opposite to all that. But the judgment is quite contradicting the common perception of justice. At least the Courts should have taken a positive step in upholding the already worn out statements of EQUALITY AND JUSTICE. I am sure that the first part of the judgment will be of less consequence for the criminal wives. THIS JUDGMENT IS SURE TO SEND WRONG SIGNALS. IT LEGALISES AND ENCOURAGES FURTHER MORE CRIMES AGAINST MEN/HUSBANDS.

PLEASE FIGHT IT OUT.

 

Nyaayapriya (Advocate for justice)     13 November 2010

Mr. Arup sir,

Please let me know is there any wrong in husband asking for the details of the expenditure of her erring and litigating wife.

Why the Govt. or for the matter anybody who lends you money, you are accountable for it. You are supposed to pay taxes. In salaried class people the tax is deducted at the source itself.

But what about a woman. She knows only the gathering up of money. And spending them lavishly. But still the husband is banned from seeking the accounts or the details of her expenditure.

ISN'T IT TOO MUCH ON HUSBANDS? IS NOT A GREAT INSULT AND INJUSTICE TO THE HUSBANDS?

 

If a woman provides the details of her expenditure you can see:

a) Her extravaganza

b) Leading an enjoyable life even without the company of the husband and at the cost of that absent absent

c) Illegal and false accounting and so on

A working husband is supposed to account for even a single pie in his day to day life.

The husband is made to shed his hard earned money to her troubling wife. She can enjoy that money. To get that money she can call for records, documents and other relevant matter and materials.

But why can't a husband do it? Now a days, in most of the cases, the wives who are collecting (nor collecting LOOTING)  lakhs and lakhs rupees from their helpless husbands, are indluging in various different kinds of activities like lending the money, investing in gambling, etc.

To have pinch of it and suffer from this I wish this to happen:

A wife of a Judge or a prominent political leader/law maker shoul go astray. She should entrap the Judge, that prominent political leader/law maker in matrimonial disputes. She should file false criminal cases against the above said persons, their parents, their relatives and friends.  And all of them must be sent to jail at least for few hours. She should collect a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of maintenance but still ask for their salary slips, list of assets, properties including cycle, motor, almirahs, chairs and others through Courts. The sitting Judge, as usual, must grant a huge amount in the form of maintenance but should not allow the above persons to get the details of her expenditure.

Ho!! lo!!!!!!!!! then these people may raise. open their eyes to the realities. They may try to change the laws according the changed circumstances, lives and persons.

Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist)     14 November 2010

It is great that this thread have been revived.

Mr. AnanayaPriya, u may get posters pasted and may get pampletes distributed all over the country, highlighting those points/issue. So that whole country will awake from deep slumber and get to know the atrocities and crime women are commiting.

Nyaayapriya (Advocate for justice)     15 November 2010

Mr. Nirashutosh Bharatiya,

Thank you very much. A day will soon come when that will/should  happen.

Roshni B.. (For justice and dignity)     17 November 2010

@the lover of justice

the author is not discussing false 498A cases...she's discussing genuine cases of wronged women who get v.late or no justice.so lets not divert from the issue please....

***************************************************************************************************************************************

i am amazed at your confidence level....if u so sure that all women are v.lucky in matters pertaining to matrimonial laws,i will ask u few questions,for which i am sure u have many proofs,as i can infer from your talking style.

please attach the proofs as research papers,stats,etc in regards to the matters below:

(i'm talking of genuinely wronged women from all classes of society,ie,rich,middle class and poor )

 

1.that since 2006 when DV act was passed, all women's DV cases have been disposed off in 2 months,which this law provides for

2. that all women filing above case have been granted maintenance EXACTLY ACCORDING TO husband's income;not peanuts.

3. that when woman goes to file 498A cases,the police are always v.eager to help ,even if she has no money to bribe them or pay PPs

 

4. that poor women all over india are getting v.efficient and honest lawyers from legal aid centres

 

5. that  if woman has no proof of mental torure,or no proof that inlaws and husband killed her for dowry,the judiciary manages to give her justice owing to high investigation techniques,in few months

 

6.that  there are absolutely no adjournaments in cases like 498A,DV Act,125 etc

 

7. all genuine 498 a cases or dowry death cases have resulted in conviction and that they have been solved in less than 2 yrs when the woman chose to fight out.

 

8. all judges in women courts are present..no leaves by judges whatsoever

 

9. keeps of wives' husbands are also punished alongwith the husband,if the wife chooses to sue her...

 

10. our courts can trace runaway NRI husbands even if they run to different countries, in just few days/months

 

11. all streedhan of all indian daughter inlaws is returned to her fully..including jewels gifted by inlaws...no problems at all once she approaches the judiciary...and this happens in few days of passing of order for returning it

 

12.if the husband is abroad and his salary cannot be found out by his wife,the judiciary has helped her fully in this regard also

 

i am waiting for your research papers now to be uploaded here which prove that all innocent litigant women have benefitted fully in just few months of filing cases and they got justice exactly the way it's written on papers

 

 

 

 

1 Like

Roshni B.. (For justice and dignity)     17 November 2010

oh yeah one last point on which i want to see your research,documents,etc

 

that when the boy's side try to bribe the innocent woman's lawyer,judge,police etc these morally upright legal people immediately expose them...so obviously no bias towards the victim and no adjournaments because of any tricks played by boy';s side!!

so justice for women is superfast like a rocket!

1 Like

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     17 November 2010

" that when the boy's side try to bribe the innocent woman's lawyer,judge,police etc these morally upright legal people immediately expose them...so obviously no bias towards the victim and no adjournaments because of any tricks played by boy';s side!!" - 'boy's side try to bribe', samething done by women side. myself victim of it.

Jamai Of Law (propra)     17 November 2010

I agree with Arup ji's comments...

 

 

In any litigation, the weaker side (on merits, ethics, proofs) indulges into acts of offering bribe entice the opponent's lawyer to behave unenthical

 

 

Match-fixing for winning............... by hook or crook!!!!

 

 

The investigation side has become insensitive, more or less, ........................almost on daily basis we get to read and watch TV how..................... the evidence is also tampered in between just to make an escape route for suspects.

 

 

Justice is meant for wealthy.....Reasons:: because they can empty their wallet!!........hence the investigation side which already starved of resources, facilities, morals, welfare in thier dept.... automatically pay more attension to such cases. Since the investigation side is already starved of resources.......Is it possible to hold them accountable/responsible for lapses/delay/lethargy in the investigation? ...............No...................it's difficult to question them or hold them accountable also........as to why couldn't the investigation devote more time to cases of those who are poorand couldn;t shell out money !!!!! 

 

 

This is the loop hole which is absolutely unpluggable.

 

 

And it's been happening from ages!!!

 

 

But it has progreesed to such an insensitive level that now a days they don't even feel obliged that they have a duty to the people also...they are only worried about recovery of money that they themselves had to shell out................... while getting themselves recruited into the post/job!!!

 

Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist)     17 November 2010

 The women fights alone, without any help from their parents, society, system etc. and they faces financial constraints too. Since rebellion among women are not acceptable to not only our society but to their natal home also. Since their role is confined to producing child and to look after her matrimonial homes.

On the other hand groom side used to be resourceful, and they get support from everywhere, right from his family, friends to society. Even after divorcee they become eligible bachelors and seeks/expects unmarried and much younger girls with dowry.

 On the other hand divorcee women becomes second hand women to whom nobody wanted to marry and faces all sorts of problems right from her natal family, society to workplace.

 

Even aged single women faces lot of sarcastic comments from all quaters.

1 Like

Roshni B.. (For justice and dignity)     17 November 2010

@ nyayapriya jee

 

i posted my above post at 1:03 AM dated 17th nov,asking you to produce evidences and proofs so that all blind supporters of women are convinced that these matrimonials laws favor women fully,exactly as written in papers.u posted at LCI at 10:33 AM on 17th nov,to participate in another thread(what's the defn. of standard of living)

thus,u ignored my challenge;rather participated in other thread.

so does it mean u have no proofs and evidences to support my challenges but have been talking blah blah blah just like that?

 

ok...no issues..:)

now people like arup jee also have no answer to my 13 points that i raised in my above post.so he beautifully diverted the topic  by saying "i have also been victim as my wife bribed legal people".

i am not asking about u and ur wife....

i am repeating for the nth time now that i am talking of all indian women who come to courts as victims of marital abuses and who mostly belong to poor and mid. class families...how can these women bribe others when they cant even afford lawyers' fees?

the %age of rich women is v.small who may/may not be bribing to turn case in their own favor

 

 

so i throw again my challenge to all those intellectuals who can prove all the above 13 points that i raised that these laws have successfully given v.speedy and rightful justice to all genuine women from all strata of society

and please dont keep diverting the topic away from these points that i raised,because the author had also raised these v.issues.so lets stick to issues which this thread is talking about,instead of talking about other issues

 

thanks in advance for your cooperation..

1 Like

Tajobsindia (Senior Partner )     17 November 2010

@ Roshni B


One thing is for sure; you are a smart person here and also a brilliant person and shrewd as  to fascade pan India issues into moot 13 points ambigious discussion whose answers even the best brains in Family law forum can’t give, simple reason being they are inter-mixed issues of facts as per facts of respective cases and have a far reaching socio-strata statistics collective points in hand and PIO’s of various States HC even shun answering round about similar questions as time upon time asked by various activists (Men’s rights NGO to be straight here so to speak) !

 


I am exclusively using above three words to describe your points (counters) to various authors post here to a dead elephant’s created thread.


Now let me tell you something as a person who knows civil family Law (for and against quite well till date);
 


1. That since 2006 when DV act was passed, all women's DV cases have been disposed off in 2 months, which this law provides for

You are wrong to use words “dispose off” bze DV Act procedure itself says that the interim protection Order to be given in 60 days and yes out of 1000 cases 80% cases pan India have received Protection Order in 60 days.


2. That all women filing above case have been granted maintenance EXACTLY ACCORDING TO husband's income, not peanuts.

Now, this is mixed question of facts as evidences and quality of cross clubbed with competence of wife’s advocate are involved. It is not simple to say hey, I filed a maint. case in court and husband earns 1 L and I asked for 80 K and pops the int. maint. for 80 K. And no where in presumptive CIVIL Law it can happen. Hence granting of exact amount as prayed is totally out of question. Now, don;’t tell me your bald ipso-facto smart talks no matter I acknowledge you a smart and brilliant person (Period).
 

3. That when woman goes to file 498A cases, the police are always v. eager to help , even if she has no money to bribe them or pay PPs


To tell you the facts 498a IPC is highly misused by all strata’s of wife’s simple reason being that Police and PP’s got money out of settlement and it got distorted to using words ‘bribe’ by wife to Police and Pps and it is wrong to use the very word ‘bribe’. What clearly I mean to say here is that out of the settlement money the wife has shared the booty with Police / Advocate as well as PPs as per various emerging facts of victim men’s reporting post settlement and the beaming smile on their ex wife. That is the very reason when you involve State and or Police into Family law there is bound to be misuse by the very protector and distortion of facts down the line pops up. I have a question to you, tell me how many 498a victim and accused you have personally counseled and or met till date? My last score happens to run into nearly 8 K + and growing! 
 


4. That poor women all over
India are getting v. efficient and honest lawyers from legal aid centres.

This is why I call you a brilliant person ! Mind it poor women from rural India are hit by panchayat and traditional mind set so chances of them approaching for legal help is quite remote and distorting the fact into arm chair writing clubbing the question into the basket of lawyer’s lap as questioning them to be honest or dishonest does not even arise. 
 


5. That if woman has no proof of mental torture or no proof that in-laws and husband killed her for dowry, the judiciary manages to give her justice owing to high investigation techniques, in few months


This is the one of the reason I called you shrewed person ! Tell me are you aware of the criminal justice system stages and leaving aside dowry death for a second ? If you are aware of criminal justice system then acknowledge the fact that it is better to discharge a accused in lack of evidences than acquit him / her falsely (means on substance of quality of evidence) is golden rule of interpretation of criminal Justice family laws. World over there is nothing called ‘high criminal investigation technique in family law” by the way. High criminal investigation techniques are there only in forensic laws of evidences and
India also has the same level of standard but shrewdly clubbing family law into forensic law is far fetched thought process.   


6.That  there are absolutely no adjournments in cases like 498A,DV Act,125 etc


What a brilliant question ! Two pronged answer is that treat Judicial Presiding Officer also as a human being before pouncing on men’s and onto their sides (means their pleaders) that due to them the adjournment culture erupted. Bottom line is that adjournments is a must in family laws cases to give time to parties to think in retrospect and try to settle the cases amicably. Now don’t preach me here golden rule on adjournment as per Salem Adv. Bar Association Vs. UOI SC binding Law of the Land which was overruled by Lordship Pasyajat and gave a lengthy preaching why adjournment is necessary in a case kar key (this is what lordships said and not me) ! 
 

7. All genuine 498 a cases or dowry death cases have resulted in conviction and that they have been solved in less than 2 yrs when the woman chose to fight out.

Now you have raised a facade que. when knowingly you know that the wife is dead so how can she choose to fight it ! 


8. All judges in women courts are present. no leaves by judges whatsoever

See para 6 above as answer.


9. Keeps of wives' husbands are also punished alongwith the husband, if the wife chooses to sue her.

You are saying that Indian husbands are having ‘keeps’ so to round it off what about your and our father’s ! Bottom line never ask a que. or its evidences which falls back upon you. Well this is a general tricky que. and even you can’t bring assumption inferences on it leave aside quality of evidences on the floor if given a chance to adduce further. 
 

10. Our courts can trace runaway NRI husbands even if they run to different countries, in just few days/months

This question facts can’t be raised simple reason being that it takes minimum 10 days for a Order to reach MHA that also if dasti asked by the wife’s side. Now to activate the overseas Missions / High Commissions via protocols and then activate the specific Country’s Law and Order machinery India needs to be signatory to such bilateral protocols and conventions. India is none to many such protocols so advised to study the due process of RCN in one of my articles placed here in LCI some months back first and then discuss this out….. oh brilliant lady !It seems you have no idea on the due process of criminal due process of Courts looks so to me?
 

11. All streedhan of all Indian daughter in-laws is returned to her fully. including jewels gifted by in laws...no problems at all once she approaches the judiciary...and this happens in few days of passing of order for returning it

Empty Johnny Walker consumed on reception evening is added to un-verified stridhan list and paid for in cash or supplement by Husband side is the simple factual answer after reading down over 12 K Stridhan List given to various SHO / submitted in various Courts by me ! Tell readers that as per binding Law of SC there should not be any conditions imposed upon AB or Bail from appellate Courts, but all Appellate Courts on average impose 25 K and much much larger amount (I have practically seen 6 L amount paid by dozen husbands in bail family law). Yes, she gets largely her stridhan back.  
 

12. If the husband is abroad and his salary cannot be found out by his wife, the judiciary has helped her fully in this regard also.

The lack of process flow by Advocates clubbed with follow up via Councils / High Commissions is to be blamed for it and moreover if wife knows the name of the overseas posted Company then each Country now-a-days have official living Index Data Sheets and minimum / maximum wages (hr) is clearly indexed into it and there is no need to go over lengthy process as challenged and all she has to do is simply submit the wage index chart over to the Court and this que. shows lack of your knowledge in family law evidence collection process hence a shrewd tactical move you stirred onto a dead elephant’s post ! 
 


13. That when the boy's side try to bribe the innocent woman's lawyer, judge, police etc these morally upright legal people immediately expose them...so obviously no bias towards the victim and no adjournments because of any tricks played by boy’s side.

This is again a very shrewd way to put things over public platform. You may get hit maximum by s. 506 IPC if a smart person files a defamation suit against you so watch out by calling members of Bar as well as Law and Order subjects. Which also brings to the chapter that boy’s side does all these and wife’s side is like a Dove soap (read holy Cow in Court) said it in reference to pan –
India questions you threw on the public debate platform ?


To close your arguments let me put it for records straight facts that in Rural India the wife’s are clubbed by age old traditions / customs as well as by respective Panchayat rule of the Land and in Urban India the wife’s are more progressive due to invasion of modern tools of legal rape laws clubbed with instigating members of Law and Order subjects and thus leave end of such biased discussion to variety of crossover rebuttals for and against over period of time by newer and newer members here.


But, let me say once again you are damn smart and brilliant person here who likes to use every tricky words in English language in  its most gullible interpretation ways sofaras Family Law in India is used for interpretation by prudent persons. But in all you succeeded partially by your 13 point agenda to some extent ! 


However, all the best and think broad not in narrow sense and be specific and you are bound to succeed in your evolving mature personality is my concluding views.   

Roshni B.. (For justice and dignity)     17 November 2010

@ ta jobs india

 

finally someone here came and answered my points.thanks!

still i am not convinced by your answers...as i said i need solid proofs ....

 

i will write again as i have no time right now...but just 2-3 small things

 

first,i never said that a man earning 1 lakh monthly shud be asked to give 80,000/- as maintenance.i believe in ethics;not in looting or extrorting money from men which many "sensible" people hv. thought abt. me

i just meant that as per DV act the wife must get rightful proportion of his salary as maintenace.as far as i know,it's supposed to be 1/3rd to 1/2 his salary..not peanuts.u diverted from this issue.so if u keep account of all genuine DV cases filed till now,tell me if all these cases filed since Oct. 2006 have been continuously getting rightful maintenances?

secondly i dont expect personal comments from you.when i said that laws shud punish those "other women" who willingly have affairs with married men so that wives who want to reconcile with partners have no more harassment from such women.but you diverted this issue by talking of my dad...now wot has it got to do with the point i raised?

so again....all those who want to reply please stick to my points only with solid prrofs and i promise to accept all your counters once you manage to produce genuine proofs.... PLEASE DONT DIVERT FROM THESE POINTS BY MAKING PERSONAL REMARKS ABOUT ONE'S FAMILY

Tajobsindia (Senior Partner )     17 November 2010

@ Roshani B

First I take back so called 'personal comments" I asked you that because some day our own children may read your vague que. and may que. their own parent as today’s wife whom behalf you asked 143 que. is (may) bound to re-create one day so what you want to give to next generation a que. on ‘keeps’ culture wonderful !


Yes, you may not have time as you say but atleast don't put questions in public platform whose answers even you don't have.


Why I say so bze if you want I will chip in my money to you and now you send me your monograph for collection of 'solid proofs' pan India no matter how many days it takes but do you think so many vague que. in your 13 points list even you can get 'solid proofs' about? If YES, then publically accept my offer for research and if NO then you yourself have diverted the family law subject yourself sitting in some urban city!


Leave a reply

Your are not logged in . Please login to post replies

Click here to Login / Register