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Sachidanandan (Scientific Assistant)     30 July 2009

blood collection for DNA profiling and CrPC

I have a doubt regarding the collection of Blood samples at forensic Science lab for DNA profiling in paternity case. According to CrPC a registered medical practitioner is the authorised person to collect blood samples. However in several forensic laboratories and other institutions, blood is collected by technicians who are qualified in medical lab course or related subjects. But on the other hand, it is not feasible to appoint a registerd mexical practitioner in an FSL for collecting the blood sample alone. Please advice me whetehr it is violation of CrPC or there is any specific guidelines for the same.



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Dharmesh Manjeshwar (Advocate/Lawyer)     31 July 2009

Does Cr. P. C specifically say that for the collection of Blood samples at forensic Science lab for DNA profiling in paternity case, a Registered Medical Practitioner is the authorised person to collect blood samples ?? dunno ... will have to go through ....

But common sense will obviously mean that for such things as DNA Profiling in a Paternity case, a qualified persons services would certainly be required ... But does Cr.P.C. say that blood samples has to be collected by an RMP ?? Someone please help ..... 

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Sachidanandan (Scientific Assistant)     01 August 2009

Friends,

I am an expert working in the forensic science laboratory and usually appear before courts for evidence deposition.  In a DNA testing lab, the expert is doing the DNA analysis.  But the question is whether the expert can collect blood from the subjects.  According to CrPC, the blood sample has to be collected by and RMP. So clarity is required in this matter

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A Truthseeker ( A retired Indian citizen)     01 August 2009

sec-53 of the Code of Criminal Procedure runs as follows:-

                  (1)when a person is arrested on a charge of committing an offence of such a nature and alleged to have been committed under such circumstances that there are reasonable grounds for believing that an examination of his person will afford evidence as to the commission of an offence,it shall be lawful for a registered medical practitioner, acting at the request of a police officer not below the rank of sub-inspector and for any person acting in good faith in his aid and under his direction, to make such an examination of the person arresrted as is reasonably necessary in order to ascertain the facts which may afford such evidence, and to use such force as is reasonanbly necessary for that purpose.

  (2)Whenever the person of a female is to be examined under this section , the examination shall be made only by, or under the supervission, a female registered medical practitioner.

   Eexplanation.-In this section and in sections 53A and 54,-

(a) "examination shall include the examination of blood, blood stains, semen, swabs in case of s*xual offences, sputum and sweat,hair samples and finger nail clippings by the use of modern and scientific techniquesincluding DNA profiling and such other tests which the registered medical practitioner thinks necessary in a particular case;

 (b).;..

     so what the Criminal Procedure prescrbes is that the entire examination is to be done under the supervision of a RMP. The RMP may take all help from bonafide persons acting in good faith.

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Dr G V Rao (Advocate)     10 September 2009

Originally posted by :Sachidanandan
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Friends,
I am an expert working in the forensic science laboratory and usually appear before courts for evidence deposition.  In a DNA testing lab, the expert is doing the DNA analysis.  But the question is whether the expert can collect blood from the subjects.  According to CrPC, the blood sample has to be collected by and RMP. So clarity is required in this matter

Dear Mr Sachidanandan

The whole point of blood collection in the laboratory is for authenticity. Any person can draw blood for DNA Testing. He or she need not be a medical practitioner. What u r speaking is abt medical examination of an accused person as per Cr PC. There u need to have a medical practitioner. Here for DNA testing all u need is to collect blood. It appears that you have not yet adopted the oral swab method or using a FTC card for blood collection. Its very user friendly. Please try. With regards. Dr G V Rao, DNA Analyst.

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somesh kumar (prop)     09 January 2010

if there are no relation between husband and wife can it be proved by DNA

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Dr G V Rao (Advocate)     09 January 2010

What do mean by establishing relationship between husband and wife. In case u r referring to proving the biological relationship between husband and wife with their child, then YES, DNA test can prove (if done correctly) the relationship that they share.

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Arup Kumar Gupta, Korba, Chattishgarh ((m)9893058429)     12 January 2010

thanks to all for this page. is crpc used the word rmp? not mbbs? or rmp means mbbs?


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