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Srinivasa   28 January 2016

Full and final settlement issue - stoping 6 lacs amount

Hi Sir, 

I have worked for one company during Feb, 2012 to March 2014 and resigned to company and that day itself my manager called me and said that he is relieving me from company. Then i said ok in the call. 

Later few days upon my request via email he has given experience and relieving letter, till that point everything was good. But, for full and final settlement he stated in the final settlement letter that I have breached NDA and Solicitated the co-worker for that he mentioned fine amount almost 1 lac 60 thousand to pay for his company . Then i have confirmed via email saying that i have not done anything such activities , really i have not done anything. Then he said that in email as a i knew him from long time he will accept that i have not done anything, but i have to sign on some wavier form saying that in next one year also if anything proved like that activities he will make penality on me. For that i have not agreed to sign on that letter, since, as per as i know and as per his company policy he can fire me from employement at that time itself if he has proofs for that.

Recently, he only communicated me to work for his company in part job role again, for that also i said ok and then i asked him saying that this is more than one year that i am out of his company and not breached anything . so, requested him to give clear final settlement letter. For that he said my account is in negative due for that i need to pay the amount. Logically speaking if i have breached NDA and solicitated co-worker he should have not come to me to work for his company. 

And, one more thing is, he with held my 3 months salary - 3lacs with him during employment and at the time of final settlement he said that i have not served the notice period i.e. reason that amount will not be paid. But, he only relieved me on my resignation day itself. 

As per his company policy , i should get approval from manager if i want to get relieved in advance which is mentioned in appointment letter. 

Basically, i left this whole issue for his goodness only, since i have lot of other priorities in my life , i though like i will not spend time for this issue.It is very clear that he is cheating me and blackmailing me to stop money. But, now he is causing problem again in my current company background verification saying that there is account due with that company. 

Now, i want to really prove my side nothing is wrong - because i have every proof. I really fedup.

I need to get 3 lcas with held salary and for early releasing from company he has to pay 3 more lacs as per company policy. Overall 6 lacs amount i should get as per my understanding. 

Mentally, personally and professionally distrubed me like anything. 

Please, please suggest me how can i proceed legally to take action on this management. 



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Kumar Doab (FIN)     28 January 2016

The draft of your query suggest that you are not proeprly informed and have not consulted any able counsel specialzing in labor-service matters and are member of any employee's/trade unions.

 

However you have given some information in your post.

You have posted that:

 

---"As per his company policy , i should get approval from manager if i want to get relieved in advance which is mentioned in appointment letter."

Did you submit notice of resignation , or resignation with immediate effect or mentioned that as per clause...............in appointment letter dated.................you are tendering resignation and relieving date be issued to you?

 

Were you relieved in writing with immediate effect?

 

---"But, now he is causing problem again in my current company background verification saying that there is account due with that company. "

 

Do you have a copy of such report with such comments?

 

---"I have breached NDA and Solicitated the co-worker for that he mentioned fine amount almost 1 lac 60 thousand to pay for his company . Then i have confirmed via email saying that i have not done anything such activities "

 

You have replied and onus is on employer to prove.

 

"Then he said that in email as a i knew him from long time he will accept that i have not done anything"

 

This statement should close the issue and you should be paid.

 

---"so, requested him to give clear final settlement letter. For that he said my account is in negative due for that i need to pay the amount.'

 

Has any FnF statement been supplied to you showing the net amount payable by you?

 

---"he with held my 3 months salary - 3lacs with him during employment'

 

Has he supplied salary slips of each month,showing deduction or any reason in writing for the withheld amounts.

 

Does your appointment letter state that notice period is 90days and notice pay in lieu of notice period is applicable?

 

What was your designation and nature of duties? Did you have the power to sanction (not just recommend) leave/increment/appoint/terminate? can your recommendation be changed/cancelled by anyone above you?

 

You were located in which state?

Your reporting office, HO was located in which state?

How many person were employed in the company?

Was it registered as ; Commercial/Industrial?

What was its line of business?

 

Did standing orders (certified/model) apply to it and yur designation?

 

 

 

 

Do not remain entangled with Line Managers and HR and attach the OK report to good offices of appointing authority,MD,Chairman and demand to supply the acknowledgment of notice/resignation and acceptance, correct FnF sheet showing computation of earned wages/bonus/leave encashment/incentives /remibursments etc,payment of FnF payouts,Form16 as per correct FnF statement,service certificate,relieving letter etc.........................within say next 7 days and add that you have been clamoring to get these and highlight your achievements,rewards,NO SCN/complaince issues etc.

 

If good offices also do not provide relief approach an able counsel specialzing in labor-service matters.

 

 

Srinivasa   29 January 2016

Hi Sir, Thank you very much for your time for reading big post and giving reply. 

Yes Sir, I took this issue to lawyer here in hyderabad, But during that time company website was down... it was almost in closed status. Not running actively. Then, that sir suggested me to leave this issue, since i will not get the solution for this. Then i left it. 

But, now the company is running and he is causing issues to me eventhough my huge money with him.

I have document proofs for above said things by you, sir. I can provide all the documents, But struggling to find counsel to take this issue. 

I am not sure whether i can ask you here for suggestion, Could you please suggest me sir if i can approach any right labor office here in hyderabad. 

Thank you in advance. 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     29 January 2016

You have not replied to all points, pointwise.

Had you replied some further could have been posted.

The functioning of the website of the company has nothing to do with your matter.

 

While you choose a counsel, choose the one that is specialized in labor-service matters.

 

This is specialzed field of law and in each city there are few counsels that specialise in it.

You have to find such counsel on your own and settle your terms fee etc on yourown.

 

The Andhra Pradesh Shops and Estbs Act is so employee friendly and you may approach the Inspector appointed under this Act and see if you can get relief by your own efforts.

You can also try thru Employee's/trade unions.

 

 

 

Srinivasa   01 February 2016

Hi Sir, Below are answers point wise:

"As per his company policy, I should get approval from manager if I want to get relieved in advance which is mentioned in appointment letter."

Did you submit notice of resignation, or resignation with immediate effect or mentioned that as per clause...............in appointment letter dated.................you are tendering resignation and relieving date be issued to you?

 

Answer:  I have sent hard copy to company address and email as well about resignation in below format

Hi XXX,  

This is my resignation from xxxx (company) technologies services as dated on:  03/04/2014.

Were you relieved in writing with immediate effect?

Answer:  

I got a call on the resigned day itself in the evening and after a short discussion, Manager told me that he is releasing me from services that will be applicable from that resigned day itself. I said ok in the call, after that I tried to login my company email – it was suspended and could not login anymore.

But, he has given experience letter and relieving letter for 31st March 2014, but I resigned as on 03/04/2014. And, I have not sent any email to relieve me early. But, some other employee who resigned later few days of my resignation – when he wanted to relieve early. This same manager asked that employee to send an email for early relieving and stating that employee is ready to pay the amount for the early relieving.

 "But, now he is causing problem again in my current company background verification saying that there is account due with that company. "

Do you have a copy of such report with such comments?

 

Answer: Yes sir, I have hard copy of the email from my current company HR team.

This Message is from background verification team in my company sent to my location HR stating that:

HR stated that Exit interview and reliving formalities completed, however the pending response on account settlement clearance activities from employee.

 

---"I have breached NDA and Solicited the co-worker for that he mentioned fine amount almost 1 lac 60 thousand to pay for his company . Then i have confirmed via email saying that i have not done anything such activities ".

You have replied and onus is on employer to prove.

Answer: Yes Sir, I have replied in email saying that this is my stand point – To the best of my knowledge I have not reached NDA and not solicited any co-worker.

For that he mentioned in email stating that verification has to be done by third party , but that verification is not yet even initiated , although almost 2 years now.

 

"Then he said that in email as a i knew him from long time he will accept that i have not done anything" This statement should close the issue and you should be paid.

 Answer: Below is the email message received from that company manager for above statement:

On trust basis and having known you I can agree to your statement to some extent but for the other stake holders of the company and for the company records I don’t have any answer and “trust” does not be accepted as a form of acceptance. For that asked my sign one waiver form with condition clauses for 1 year to settle accounts without penalty meaning if proven and accepted by both parties with in 1 year of my departure from company I have to pay the penalty.

Now, It is 1 year and 10 months that I am out of the company and he has not proved anything for that NDA and solicitation with co-worker. He asked me current company appointment letter For that wavier form supporting document which is confidentiality to me from current company point of view.

"so, requested him to give clear final settlement letter. For that he said my account is in negative due for that i need to pay the amount.'

Has any FnF statement been supplied to you showing the net amount payable by you?

Answer: Yes sir, He sent one F&F statement in that mentioned amount payable by me.

"he withheld my 3 months salary - 3lacs with him during employment'

Has he supplied salary slips of each month, showing deduction or any reason in writing for the withheld amounts.

 

Answer: Yes Sir, I have email proofs for deduction of salary payment and deducted amount by company in  a company provided statement . I have payslips for salary deducted as well.

He used to deduct salary like after completing the salary payment month. He used to announce that they are going for salary deduction because of company financial issues.

 

Does your appointment letter state that notice period is 90days and notice pay in lieu of notice period is applicable?

 

 Answer: Below are the statements mentioned in appointment letter.

 “Employees who resign are required to provide company with at least ninety (90) days written notice prior to the final day of actual work or 30 days salary in lieu of notice. This salary in lieu of notice whenever it is invoked shall be deducted in the final settlement calculated.  “

If company terminate employee: Company terminated employee by giving thirty days’ notice in writing or by paying thirty days salary in lieu of notice.

Company policy for early release: An employee may apply for an “ Early release” from serving notice period subject solely to the approval of the company management team.

What was your designation and nature of duties? Did you have the power to sanction (not just recommend) leave/increment/appoint/terminate? Can your recommendation be changed/cancelled by anyone above you?

Answer: Joined initially as a senior consultant and later on designated to Technical project manager. I didn’t have any powers to sanction.

 You were located in which state?  I located in TELANGANA – HYDERABAD. But, company, head office is in Chennai, Tamilnadu. Initially company had branch in Hyderabad as well. Later on moved completely to Chennai.

Your reporting office, HO was located in which state? Chennai, Tamilnadu.

How many person were employed in the company? Less than 10 during that time.

Was it registered as ; Commercial/Industrial? It is IT service PVT LTD company.

What was its line of business? IT services.

Did standing orders (certified/model) apply to it and yur designation? I don’t have idea on this sir.

 

Could you please suggest me on what point basis i can go ahead on this. 

Thank you very much in advance for your time and help.

 

 

 

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     01 February 2016

Your reply that:

"This is my resignation from xxxx (company) technologies services as dated on:  03/04/2014."

does not give a clear picture that you resigned with immediate effect or you tendered some notice period or you asked that relieving date be issued to you.

 

If yu submitted resignation dated 03.04.2014 and resigned from 03.04.2014 then it is resignation with immediate effect and if your manager confirmed by phone call on 03.04.2014 that your resignation has been accepted w.e.f. close of office hours on 03.04.2014 then there is nothing wrong in it.

 

However if you were paid till 31.04.2014 then you are expected to refund wages paid from 04.04.2014-31.04.2014.

Does the FnF statement issued to you show adjustment of this excess wages paid to you?

 

The deductions made from salary is to be paid to you.

You may decline to accept FnF statement and if you have accepted then you may call it back and demand this payment.

 

The company has stated that :

---"Exit interview and reliving formalities completed" and it implies that you have handed over the charge and completed the exit formalities and nothing is pending.

 

---"however the pending response on account settlement clearance activities from employee."

 

You may deny it in writing to current and past employer and explain it as you have explained in your above post and contest the waiver form and investigation by third party as well and also that company has willfully not initiated any inquiry for 2 years.YOu have full right to decline to supply the appointment letter of current and any employer as it is your nproeprty and past employer has no lien on it.

 

If you are covered by the def. of 'Employee' as in Andhar Pradesh Shops & Estbs Act or even Tamilnadu Shops & Estbs Act then the notice period may not be more than 30days. MOreover the condition on notice period is not equitable and may get termed as arbitrary.

 

Online discussions have its own limitations and you are not only facing the issue of FnF settlement but breach of Non Disclosure agreement, failed BGV as well hence if you are unable to resolve on your own entrust to an able counsel specializing in labor-service matters.

 

 

 


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