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B. Chakraborty   07 May 2017

Divorce on ground of husband’s impotency

DIVORCE on ground of husband’s impotency (repeat posting)

I am posting a currently alive post marriage problematic case turning towards inevitable break. Husband, the boy: is my relation- son of brother in law. I write this being in side of boy

He is B.com (Hons), MBA(HR) aged around 40 years, working in TCS , Gross Salary Rs.45000/-approx per month. He is very child like simple and friendly. Some one not intimate to him may get confused if he is immature or not. But he is not really so. His Father (M.sc Math aged 71+ years) is retired Sr Manager of a nationalized bank and now gets  pension. He speaks very very less calm and quite without any spiral mind, deeply religious. It is very easy to cheat him.  He loves music and is a good player of ‘Siter’ and performs in regular concerts without accepting and kind of payments. Mother (Msc Math aged 65+ years) is retired Teacher of Govt School and now gets pension. They have only one issue i.e the boy under reference. The family is economically not affluent but higher middle class of first generation. Life style by choice very very simple.  They own a small but decently arranged double storied house (in name of boy’s mother). They have no car, travel in public bus/auto normally. No cook, they prepare there food own. An outsider aged woman is engaged morning to evening to perform house work other than cooking or occasionally cooking too.

 

The girl is Bsc(Bio),BEd aged aprox 35 years working in BD Memorial School, Kolkata. Salary not known may be Rs.10000/- per month around. After marriage we find she is very stylist and desires to be in focus. Her father as said is a Mining Engineer speaks in slum-style, retired  from high post at Coal  India, Nagpur now resides at Kolkata (a few kilometer apart from boy’s house) in a ownership good specious flat. The girl is more comfortable to speak in English than in Bengali. Perhaps she can not read and write Bengali. Her mother is a house wife. They have another next very very smart and stylish unmarried daughter, stated to be Cosmetic Engineer working and staying single   at Bombay. They have no third child. The gentleman, the father of girl is by nature of talking high, rough and in habit to shout with filthy languages when ever he finds some issue. From outside we see they are economically affluent owning car and in habit to maintain high life style. Frequently visits restaurant. Almost every night takes dinner outside.

 

Between them , it was purely arranged marriage by parents. Bride and groom were selected from matrimonial internet website. After in house final talks, with parental consent and mainly for girl’s desire both boy and girl mixed together for about 1-2 months. Finally marriage registration, social marriage, ritual all were held same day in April 2016. In real and good sense there was no ‘Dowry’ at all. However parents  of the girl gifted  good number of house hold items and electronic gadgets to their daughter, which may be considered as normal gifts. They also gifted as usual a marriage gold ring and chain to the boy.

 

Unfortunately soon it was felt from both side that it was not a happy marriage.

After marriage on 4th  morning ( i.e immediate morning after their first night together), the girl shouted at in anger and huge voice that her husband is powerless (Akshyam in Bengali} in  gathering of so many relatives who came to attend marriage reception (called as ‘Bouvat’ in Bengali) and over stayed next day. For information : From their(i.e Girl’s) advocate I saw personally the girl’s hand written allegation  where he in uncovered language  mentioned that after marriage night she kept quite for one night  as per Hindu norms and there after from next night she desired to get love and  satisfaction from husband who failed to do so.

 

After ward for months together wife’s/girl’s shouting on same issue is every day’s issue. The boy/husband got embarrassed and continuously denied the allegation. While asked the boy replies that her demand of love is so infinite and her demand and  act-style so that every time he can not act as per her wish & choice and many a time he fails. He is OK for one hour or so but not Ok for long hours in a night. He definitely gets exhausted thereafter.

 

However thereafter when the girl and her parents desired, the boy/husband  visited one Doctor to another for test and treatment just to satisfy the girl and her parents and to maintain peace. All doctors except last one suggested no problem accept a bit low male hormone with the boy which is very common and should not cause any problem in married life. They said all problems are psychological and would be solved without medication or external intervention provided partners are having mutual cooperation. As preferred by parents of girl the boy  was taken even to a ‘Tantrik’ too. How ever one doctor lastly wrote there is problem with the boy and the problem persisted from the time before marriage. The boy denied but the girl kept the prescripttion with her and using it to make a case against the boy.  

 

At the same time the girl continued shouting every day at in laws of not having good food , climate is hot etc etc  In laws arranged AC only for her room. Newly married husband-wife exclusively stay in first floor and in laws proposed if desired they can stay separate independently, servant/cook all would be arranged at the cost of in laws. She refused stating that after outside work in school she will not be in position to look after all her family work. Most of the nights, she dragged her husband to outside restaurant for dinner. And in Sundays and holidays, lunches too are at outside. Travel by taxi only. On honey moon trip to Delhi and trip to sister at Bombay were by flight –stay, lunch and dinners at star hotel. The boy expressed to his parents that he is exhausted and could not afford the cost of all theses. The girl never did a single work in laws house , not offered a cup of tea any one. She refused to visit the relations of the husband.

 

 

Now the boy  is afraid of her shouting and filthy language. She does not attract him. He tries to avoid her. Girl’s father also landed in the field and abuses the boy in very filthy language. The boy says ‘ seeing her mood  and remembering her shouting face and abusing behavior,  I  do not know why my ‘power’ itself gets lost’. Doctor says he is afraid of to be nearest to wife. The  girl and her parents  alleged  that the boy and his parents cheated the her  by suppressing the known impotency of the boy.

 

Last in March 2017, one Sunday the father of the girl came locked the room of couple and took away the girl shouting at the   boy and her parents loudly in public threatening that they are going take action as per law alleging cruelty and cheating by groom suppressing boy’s inability to lead conjugal married life satisfying wife.

 

The boy and his father made a general dairy at Police Station narrating the fact that the girl left in laws’ house locking the room and keeping the key with them.

 

Giving information through their advocate on 01 May 2017 , the advocate, father and girl came, unlocked their room  and took away all  items giving signed statement  of taking back all their items exhaustively. It was peaceful shifting. The boy out of his own wish returned the wedding ring and chain; he got from the parents of the girl.

 

The subsequently on behalf of girl’s side  Advocate threatened that he is going to file a case of divorce showing ground of husband’s impotency and failure to lead  conjugal life. He said in such case it is lengthy process to get divorce order and more over court will order for monthly alimony and housing for wife and certainly it would be at the end a blow to husband and his parents. And also threatened at first they will lodge complaint under 498 against boy and his parents.

 

Alternately the advocate proposed for mutual amicable settlement and then with consent of both sides submit before court a case of ‘nullity’ of marriage registration.

 

Provided under mentioned THREE conditions are accepted :

i) One time and final compensation /reimbursement of marriage cost of Rs 5 lakhs to bes paid by boy/husband  side to girl/wife. However the entire amount would be paid in cash and nowhere to be mentioned or recorded.

ii) Payment of Rs.2 lakhs as reimbursement of legal cost to be paid to wife and this Rs.2 lakhs too would be paid in cash and nowhere to be mentioned or recorded.

iii)All the amount to be paid to the Advocate in his chember and he himself would transfer the due amount to girl and her parents.

 

The advocate assures within six months the court will order nullity of marriage registration when both the parties would be free from wedding lock without any future liabilities. The boy would not pay any alimony.

 

Boys Side/Our  Approach:

We strongly feel the girl is mentally not healthy to lead a family life of middle class. So in no way the girl would be taken back as daughter in law in the family.We now like to take opportunity to get rid of the girl and her parents. The issue of boy’s ‘power’ may be true or alibi but other fact is that the marriage was settled unknowingly between two families who are extremely at two opposite ends of socio-economic life style. Two persons from extreme opposite different socio-economic life styles can not stay happily under one roof for whole life. So boy-side wants very quick breakage of wedding lock without any damage to any side and also without any future load like alimony. Hence an EARLY PEACEFUL divorce/Nullity of marriage registration is welcome for both sides

 

From Boy side what we want:

1. We do not want any revengeful action in any way.  We want smooth settlement.

2. We want to settle the issue ie ‘Nullity’  of marriage registration without any payment(boy-side's natural primary desire) to girl side as compensation/reimbursement of marriage cost and legal cost as asked by girl-side advocate . It is to be understood that marriage expenditures and also legal expenditures were there in both the sides so why only girl-side would raise the point of reimbursement of marriage and legal cost. Boy-side too may talk of reimbursement of marriage cost. We diser a win-win solution.

3. All said and done, we/boy-side  are a little inclined (or say bow down) to pay because we want soon to get rid of the  girl who is from extremely opposite socio-economic life style we can not absorb her as house wife. Taking all the healthy steps towards happy married life  we want to see our boy is again settked soon. 

4. We want all payments, if to required be paid,  should be recorded and by cheque only and not under the table. Their/girl-side  advocate said payment could  not be recorded or shown in case of a mutual agreement and submission of ‘Nulity case’ before court. And that is why the payment by cheque can not be accepted as their advocate says. The payment should be in cash only and that too to  advocate in his chamber before signing the mutual agreement. Surprisingly our advocate too speaks in line of girl-side advocate.  We doubt if all these are tricks of the girl-side advocate in connivance with our advocate. Where is the problem to pay by cheque and record it in agreement of  ‘Nullity’ case papers to be submitted before the court ? We doubt if payment from boy-side  is really demanded by the girl side or not ? More over cash transaction of huge amount 5-7 lakhs without record, we feel, is a crime as per IT Act

 

5. We want that ‘Nulity’ order from court should be free of any future burden of   alimony and housing to girl.

 

6. The girl when entered as house wife some traditional old costly family gold ornaments from mother-in-law  and grand mother in law were gifted to newly married bride. We are keen to get back ONLY those traditional ornaments which bear a value system of the family being transmitted from one generation to next generation house wives of the family. The girl’s advocate advises nothing would be returned- all those are ‘Streedhan”. We do not know what rule says.

 

We would happy to get advices from  experts and our forum members  suggests 



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 13 Replies

Manish Prasad   07 May 2017

Better try fir mcd. Money is not a big issue wrt to peace full life ,u earned after divorce or his mom, dad has earn. So any how paid the amount and left her immediately. As his age is going to 40. It's better with every aspect to give divorce by mcd.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     07 May 2017

Take 2nd opinion from a senior and very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity at your location, specializing in Family matters.

Your own able counsel can draft the T&C for MCD so as to defend your long term interest.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     07 May 2017

It is good that you have collcted receipt of articles, returned, medical reports.....

Once you are convinced that your present lawyer is not in your favor, change the lawyer.

I am sending yous a few links that you may go thru and discuss amongst yourself, elders of the family, and your own able and sincere counsel(s).

B. Chakraborty   08 May 2017

yes we are ready to pay- but we want to offer Rs.7 lakhs payment on record in legal way. While girl-side advocate  says there is no space for payment on record in case of Nullity of Marriage Registration. The advocate says on case papers it must be on 'No demand and nothing paid' condition. More over Rs.7/- lakhs transaction in cash appears to be itself a punishable offence.

Further are  MCD and 'Case of Nullity of Marriage Registration' same ?? 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     08 May 2017

Hope you shall take it positively.

Are you a lawyer or legally trained mind?

Have you engaged a very a senior and very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity at your location, specializing in Family matters?

You have been posting on Nullity, Annulement and in your last post MCD.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     08 May 2017

 

Go thru my 1st post in the thread:

Take 2nd opinion from a senior and very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity at your location, specializing in Family matters.

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     08 May 2017

Go thru my 2nd post in the thread:

It is good that you have collcted receipt of articles, returned, medical reports.....

Once you are convinced that your present lawyer is not in your favor, change the lawyer.

I am sending yous a few links that you may go thru and discuss amongst yourself, elders of the family, and your own able and sincere counsel(s).


The right prspective is to handover anything under proper acknowledgment.

 Have you dicussed and obtained 2nd or even 3rd further opinion from your own very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity?

Kumar Doab (FIN)     08 May 2017



Simple to understand descrition at Delhi Govt website:

 

Hindu Marriage Act 1955

 

Section 12 - Voidable marriages :- Any marriage solemnized, whether before or after the commencement of this Act, shall be voidable and may be annulled by a decree of nullity on any of the following grounds, namely:-

Section 13B - Divorce by mutual consent :-

 

https://dcw.delhigovt.nic.in/Nullity%20of%20Marriage%20and%20Divorce.htm

Kumar Doab (FIN)     08 May 2017

 

Engage a senior and very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity at your location, specializing in Family matters.

Your own counsel can update you after examining whole case file:

What is what?

And what should be done and what suits you?

Kumar Doab (FIN)     09 May 2017

Originally posted by : B. Chakraborty
DIVORCE on ground of husband’s impotency (repeat posting)

I am posting a currently alive post marriage problematic case turning towards inevitable break. Husband, the boy: is my relation- son of brother in law. I write this being in side of boy

He is B.com (Hons), MBA(HR) aged around 40 years, working in TCS , Gross Salary Rs.45000/-approx per month. He is very child like simple and friendly. Some one not intimate to him may get confused if he is immature or not. But he is not really so. His Father (M.sc Math aged 71+ years) is retired Sr Manager of a nationalized bank and now gets  pension. He speaks very very less calm and quite without any spiral mind, deeply religious. It is very easy to cheat him.  He loves music and is a good player of ‘Siter’ and performs in regular concerts without accepting and kind of payments. Mother (Msc Math aged 65+ years) is retired Teacher of Govt School and now gets pension. They have only one issue i.e the boy under reference. The family is economically not affluent but higher middle class of first generation. Life style by choice very very simple.  They own a small but decently arranged double storied house (in name of boy’s mother). They have no car, travel in public bus/auto normally. No cook, they prepare there food own. An outsider aged woman is engaged morning to evening to perform house work other than cooking or occasionally cooking too.

 

The girl is Bsc(Bio),BEd aged aprox 35 years working in BD Memorial School, Kolkata. Salary not known may be Rs.10000/- per month around. After marriage we find she is very stylist and desires to be in focus. Her father as said is a Mining Engineer speaks in slum-style, retired  from high post at Coal  India, Nagpur now resides at Kolkata (a few kilometer apart from boy’s house) in a ownership good specious flat. The girl is more comfortable to speak in English than in Bengali. Perhaps she can not read and write Bengali. Her mother is a house wife. They have another next very very smart and stylish unmarried daughter, stated to be Cosmetic Engineer working and staying single   at Bombay. They have no third child. The gentleman, the father of girl is by nature of talking high, rough and in habit to shout with filthy languages when ever he finds some issue. From outside we see they are economically affluent owning car and in habit to maintain high life style. Frequently visits restaurant. Almost every night takes dinner outside.

 

Between them , it was purely arranged marriage by parents. Bride and groom were selected from matrimonial internet website. After in house final talks, with parental consent and mainly for girl’s desire both boy and girl mixed together for about 1-2 months. Finally marriage registration, social marriage, ritual all were held same day in April 2016. In real and good sense there was no ‘Dowry’ at all. However parents  of the girl gifted  good number of house hold items and electronic gadgets to their daughter, which may be considered as normal gifts. They also gifted as usual a marriage gold ring and chain to the boy.

 

Unfortunately soon it was felt from both side that it was not a happy marriage.

After marriage on 4th  morning ( i.e immediate morning after their first night together), the girl shouted at in anger and huge voice that her husband is powerless (Akshyam in Bengali} in  gathering of so many relatives who came to attend marriage reception (called as ‘Bouvat’ in Bengali) and over stayed next day. For information : From their(i.e Girl’s) advocate I saw personally the girl’s hand written allegation  where he in uncovered language  mentioned that after marriage night she kept quite for one night  as per Hindu norms and there after from next night she desired to get love and  satisfaction from husband who failed to do so.

 

After ward for months together wife’s/girl’s shouting on same issue is every day’s issue. The boy/husband got embarrassed and continuously denied the allegation. While asked the boy replies that her demand of love is so infinite and her demand and  act-style so that every time he can not act as per her wish & choice and many a time he fails. He is OK for one hour or so but not Ok for long hours in a night. He definitely gets exhausted thereafter.

 

However thereafter when the girl and her parents desired, the boy/husband  visited one Doctor to another for test and treatment just to satisfy the girl and her parents and to maintain peace. All doctors except last one suggested no problem accept a bit low male hormone with the boy which is very common and should not cause any problem in married life. They said all problems are psychological and would be solved without medication or external intervention provided partners are having mutual cooperation. As preferred by parents of girl the boy  was taken even to a ‘Tantrik’ too. How ever one doctor lastly wrote there is problem with the boy and the problem persisted from the time before marriage. The boy denied but the girl kept the prescriptttion with her and using it to make a case against the boy.  

 

At the same time the girl continued shouting every day at in laws of not having good food , climate is hot etc etc  In laws arranged AC only for her room. Newly married husband-wife exclusively stay in first floor and in laws proposed if desired they can stay separate independently, servant/cook all would be arranged at the cost of in laws. She refused stating that after outside work in school she will not be in position to look after all her family work. Most of the nights, she dragged her husband to outside restaurant for dinner. And in Sundays and holidays, lunches too are at outside. Travel by taxi only. On honey moon trip to Delhi and trip to sister at Bombay were by flight –stay, lunch and dinners at star hotel. The boy expressed to his parents that he is exhausted and could not afford the cost of all theses. The girl never did a single work in laws house , not offered a cup of tea any one. She refused to visit the relations of the husband.

 

 

Now the boy  is afraid of her shouting and filthy language. She does not attract him. He tries to avoid her. Girl’s father also landed in the field and abuses the boy in very filthy language. The boy says ‘ seeing her mood  and remembering her shouting face and abusing behavior,  I  do not know why my ‘power’ itself gets lost’. Doctor says he is afraid of to be nearest to wife. The  girl and her parents  alleged  that the boy and his parents cheated the her  by suppressing the known impotency of the boy.

 

Last in March 2017, one Sunday the father of the girl came locked the room of couple and took away the girl shouting at the   boy and her parents loudly in public threatening that they are going take action as per law alleging cruelty and cheating by groom suppressing boy’s inability to lead conjugal married life satisfying wife.

 

The boy and his father made a general dairy at Police Station narrating the fact that the girl left in laws’ house locking the room and keeping the key with them.

 

Giving information through their advocate on 01 May 2017 , the advocate, father and girl came, unlocked their room  and took away all  items giving signed statement  of taking back all their items exhaustively. It was peaceful shifting. The boy out of his own wish returned the wedding ring and chain; he got from the parents of the girl.

 

The subsequently on behalf of girl’s side  Advocate threatened that he is going to file a case of divorce showing ground of husband’s impotency and failure to lead  conjugal life. He said in such case it is lengthy process to get divorce order and more over court will order for monthly alimony and housing for wife and certainly it would be at the end a blow to husband and his parents. And also threatened at first they will lodge complaint under 498 against boy and his parents.

 

Alternately the advocate proposed for mutual amicable settlement and then with consent of both sides submit before court a case of ‘nullity’ of marriage registration.

 

Provided under mentioned THREE conditions are accepted :

i) One time and final compensation /reimbursement of marriage cost of Rs 5 lakhs to bes paid by boy/husband  side to girl/wife. However the entire amount would be paid in cash and nowhere to be mentioned or recorded.

ii) Payment of Rs.2 lakhs as reimbursement of legal cost to be paid to wife and this Rs.2 lakhs too would be paid in cash and nowhere to be mentioned or recorded.

iii)All the amount to be paid to the Advocate in his chember and he himself would transfer the due amount to girl and her parents.

 

The advocate assures within six months the court will order nullity of marriage registration when both the parties would be free from wedding lock without any future liabilities. The boy would not pay any alimony.

 

Boys Side/Our  Approach:

We strongly feel the girl is mentally not healthy to lead a family life of middle class. So in no way the girl would be taken back as daughter in law in the family.We now like to take opportunity to get rid of the girl and her parents. The issue of boy’s ‘power’ may be true or alibi but other fact is that the marriage was settled unknowingly between two families who are extremely at two opposite ends of socio-economic life style. Two persons from extreme opposite different socio-economic life styles can not stay happily under one roof for whole life. So boy-side wants very quick breakage of wedding lock without any damage to any side and also without any future load like alimony. Hence an EARLY PEACEFUL divorce/Nullity of marriage registration is welcome for both sides

 

From Boy side what we want:

1. We do not want any revengeful action in any way.  We want smooth settlement.

2. We want to settle the issue ie ‘Nullity’  of marriage registration without any payment(boy-side's natural primary desire) to girl side as compensation/reimbursement of marriage cost and legal cost as asked by girl-side advocate . It is to be understood that marriage expenditures and also legal expenditures were there in both the sides so why only girl-side would raise the point of reimbursement of marriage and legal cost. Boy-side too may talk of reimbursement of marriage cost. We diser a win-win solution.

3. All said and done, we/boy-side  are a little inclined (or say bow down) to pay because we want soon to get rid of the  girl who is from extremely opposite socio-economic life style we can not absorb her as house wife. Taking all the healthy steps towards happy married life  we want to see our boy is again settked soon. 

4. We want all payments, if to required be paid,  should be recorded and by cheque only and not under the table. Their/girl-side  advocate said payment could  not be recorded or shown in case of a mutual agreement and submission of ‘Nulity case’ before court. And that is why the payment by cheque can not be accepted as their advocate says. The payment should be in cash only and that too to  advocate in his chamber before signing the mutual agreement. Surprisingly our advocate too speaks in line of girl-side advocate.  We doubt if all these are tricks of the girl-side advocate in connivance with our advocate. Where is the problem to pay by cheque and record it in agreement of  ‘Nullity’ case papers to be submitted before the court ? We doubt if payment from boy-side  is really demanded by the girl side or not ? More over cash transaction of huge amount 5-7 lakhs without record, we feel, is a crime as per IT Act

 

5. We want that ‘Nulity’ order from court should be free of any future burden of   alimony and housing to girl.

 

6. The girl when entered as house wife some traditional old costly family gold ornaments from mother-in-law  and grand mother in law were gifted to newly married bride. We are keen to get back ONLY those traditional ornaments which bear a value system of the family being transmitted from one generation to next generation house wives of the family. The girl’s advocate advises nothing would be returned- all those are ‘Streedhan”. We do not know what rule says.

 

We would happy to get advices from  experts and our forum members  suggests 

 

You have posted that:

"While asked the boy replies that her demand of love is so infinite and her demand and  act-style so that every time he can not act as per her wish & choice and many a time he fails. He is OK for one hour or so but not Ok for long hours in a night. He definitely gets exhausted thereafter.

All doctors except last one suggested no problem accept a bit low male hormone with the boy which is very common and should not cause any problem in married life.

2. We want to settle the issue ie ‘Nullity’  of marriage "

 

 

 

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     09 May 2017

Why Nullity is your choice?

Why monies under the table?

You are unable to explain and make it clear.

Born Fighter (xxx)     10 May 2017

S o long as you have a properly drafted legal papers which will not allow wife to claim any money post divorce you should not break your head on mode of payment. Get in touch with a legal expert and take steps IN LEGAL DRAFTING .

You should also feel lucky that girl is asking for only 5+2L TOTAL settlement amount, there are claims of MIN 50L in cases like yours .....

Kumar Doab (FIN)     10 May 2017

Approach a senior and very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity at your location, specializing in Family matters.


 


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