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Issue with pf transfer

(Querist) 26 December 2015 This query is : Resolved 
Hi Sir,
This is Srikanth Chitturi. I have requested PF transfer from my old employer to new employer. It was done by my old employer and cheque was sent to my new employer. But, some mistake happen from my new employer, the cheque was expired and they re-initiate the process to my old employer. But, i didn't get any response from my old employer. Request you to advice me to solve the problem.

This will be much helpful to me! Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Srikanth.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 December 2015
Was the PF a/c in old employer maintained by EPFO?


If both companies are maintaining a/c's with EPFO then why cheque was sent by old employer?



IN any case it is default of current employer and let it call/talk/speak/write to old employer and resolve the matter.

You may transact on this matter in writing under proper acknowledgment, atleast from personal email id and obtain written replies.




Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 26 December 2015
Write letter to old as well as new employer under acknowledgement.
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 28 December 2015
PF account is maintained by the Commissioner Provident Fund which do not have any bearing on change of employer and need not be closed/changed on switchingover to new assignement/employer. Just inform your past and present employer with an intimation to to PF Commissioner, balance of your account shall automatically be taken case by CPF.
Guest (Expert) 28 December 2015
Is it your real problem or a hypothetical academic query? In fact your description of the problem is quite insufficient about some vital information to make any headway to arrive at some purposeful opinion.

If a real problem, please clarify the following points:

1) Whether you were a Government employee or the employee of a private/public company?

2) Whether your present employer is a Government department or some company?

3) Who maintained your PF account, the EPFO or your employer?

4) If your own employer was maintaining your account under what conditions he was maintaining your account and not remitting the dues of PF to the EPFO?

K.S.Srinivas (Expert) 31 December 2015
EPF account shall be maintained by the EPFO. For transfer of EPF account from old employer to new employer, form 13 is supposed to be filed to the EPF Commissioner. You can download from the EPFO website.

The relevant form is appended below:-

FORM-13 (REVISED)
THE EMPLOYEES' PROVIDENT FUND SCHEME, 1952
(Para-57)
[APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER OF EPF ACCOUNT]
NOTE: (1) To be submitted by the member to the present employer for onward transmission to the
Commissioner, EPF by whom the transfer is to be effected.
(2) In case the P.F. transfer is due from the P.F. Trust of an exempted establishment, the
application should be sent direct by the employer to the P. F. Trust of the exempted
establishment. with a copy to the RPFC concerned for details of the Family Pension
membership.
To To
M/s
The Commissioner
Employees' Provident Fund,
(To be filled in, if Note (2) above is applicable)
Sir,
I request that my Provident Fund balance along with the Membership details in Family Pension Fund
may please be transferred to my present account under intimation to me. Necessary particulars are
furnished below: ]
1. Name ..................................................................
2. Father's/Husband's name in case of married women: ..................................................................
3. Name & Address of Previous Employer ..................................................................
..................................................................
4. EPF account Number with the previous Employer: ..................................................................
5. By whom the PF account of the Regional PF Commissioner Name of the P.F. Trust
Previous estt is kept.
6. FPF Account Number with the previous
employer (if allotted a separate one) ……………………………………………….
7. Date of leaving service with previous employer: ………………………………………………..
8. Date of joining the present employer: ………………………………………………..
Date…………. Signature/Left Hand Thumb impression of the Member.
FOR OFFICE USE ONLY
Date Seal/Reg.No.......................
To be filled by the present employer:
9. Name and address of the establishment: .............……....................................................
10. EPF Code and Account No. allotted to
the Member : .........................……............................…….....
11. FPF Account No. allotted
to the member separately, if any : ..................................................................…...
12. By whom the EPF account of the member in the
present establishment is kept:
Being an un-exempted establishment (a) By Regional Office at....................….....
(b) Sub-Regional Office at...............…….....…..
Being an exempted establishment (c) By exempted PF, Trust, viz..........……….....
(d) By Private PF-Not covered under the actviz..................…………………............................
13- By whom the FPF Account of the member (a) PF Regional Office ….......................... at
in the present establishment is kept: (b) PF Sub-Regional Office........................at
14- In whose favour transfer is to be effected,
i.e. payee's details: ......................................................................
Date:............... Signature of Employer/Authorised
Official with Official Seal
(FOR USE OF P. F. OFFICE ONLY)
A sum of Rs..................................................................... (Rupees ...................................................
is authorised for transfer, vide Annexure, 'K' (Revised), Transfer proceeds to be sent along with
Annexure 'K' Revised),
By D.D. to the Regional PF Commissioner/office-in-charge of Sub Regional Office...........................
By D.D, to the P.F. Trust of the establishment with License to the details Serial No. 14 above.
Membership details under Family Pension Fund forwarded to P.F. Regional Office/Sub-Regional
Office at.
By transfer entries to the Member's Ledqer Card bearing Number
in the present establishment from the Ledger Card bearing Number
of the previous establishment.
Transfer intimation/copy of Annexure-K (Revised) to the member placed below :
P.I.No. Clerk Head Clerk A. A.0. A.0./A..P.F.C.
Scroll No.
Paid by Cheque No.......................................dated.............................................
Cashier/Clerk, Head clerk Asst. Provident Fund Commissioner
Advocate. Arunagiri (Expert) 31 December 2015
For PF account transfer, the old employer need not send a cheque to the new employer. In fact the old employer has no role in transfering the account.

You have to inform the new employer regarding your existing PF account. They will do the needful for continuing with the existing PF account.
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 01 January 2016
Dear Experts,
Wish you all a very happy, healthy and prosperous new year.
Regards
Dr. J C Vashista, Advocate
email: majjagdish@yahoo.com
+ 91 98911 52939


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