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Rupam Ghosh (In practice)     25 October 2011

Adhar card

Dear members, Please come here with all relevant infos regarding making of Adhar Card recently launched by Govt. What are the benefits accrued to us because of this card. Can Adhar Card a subsitute for address proof ?



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DR.SANAT KUMAR DASH (Eye Specialist)     25 October 2011

Unless   Govt.   declares    it  as  address  proof,  then  how   it  can   be??

Democratic Indian (n/a)     25 October 2011

Most people have tendency to get attracted and fascinated by anything new. Dangers and risks are far more than the apparent "benefits" of "Aadhar" card. Getting an UID(Aadhar) Card is best avoided due to various possible risks to freedom, privacy and liberty which most people cannot even imagine today. Similar project was undertaken by Hitler to trap the people in his game. All democracies like USA, UK and Australia have scrapped similar projects due to inherent dangers. It is really mystifying why Indian government wants to do something that has been discarded by other nations due to its risks. Please read detailed discussions below:

 

1) https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Re-Eminent-Personalities-against-UNIQUE-Identity-Numbers-UID--25042.asp

 

2) https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Re-UID-Aadhaar-37332.asp

 

3) https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Re-Netgrid-NIA-and-outside-the-purview-of-the-RTI-39464.asp

Rupam Ghosh (In practice)     02 November 2011

hey thanks a lot. Good to see a different perspective to this UID card.

Rupam Ghosh (In practice)     02 November 2011

thats rite but this card is introduced by the Govt and Govt is not supposed to enter the details of a citizen on its card without proper verification. Then why the Govt should not accept it as a address proof for various purpose.

Democratic Indian (n/a)     03 November 2011

In order to get answer to your question, you will have to go into deeper legality of the matter, after reading this https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Re-Eminent-Personalities-against-UNIQUE-Identity-Numbers-UID--25042.asp


Constitutionality of this project, including in the matter of privacy, the relationship between the state and the people, security and other fundamental rights.



Questions have been raised which have not been addressed so far, including those about –


• Undemocratic process: UIDAI was set-up via a GoI notification as an attached office of the Planning Commission without any discussion or debate in the Parliament or civil society. In the year and a half of its inception, the Authority has signed MoUs with virtually all states and UTs, LIC, Petroleum Ministry and many banks. In July, the Authority circulated the draft NIA Bill (to achieve statutory status); the window for public feedback was two weeks. Despite widespread feedback and calls for making all feedback public, the Authority has not made feedback available. Further in direct contravention to the process of public feedback, the NIA Bill was listed for introduction in the Lok Sabha 2010 monsoon session.


• Convergence, by which those with access to state power, as well as companies, could collate information about each individual with the help of the UID number.


National IDs have been abandoned in the US, Australia and the newly-elected British government. The reasons have predominantly been: costs and privacy. If it is too expensive for the US with a population of 308 million, and the UK with 61 million people, and Australia with 21 million people, it is being asked why India thinks it can prioritise its spending in this direction. In the UK, the Home Secretary explained that they were abandoning the project because it would otherwise be `intrusive bullying’ by the state, and that the government intended to be the `servant’ of the people, and not their `master’. Is there a lesson in it for us? In the late nineties, the Supreme Court of Philippines struck down the President’s Executive Order A.O 308 which instituted a biometric based national ID system calling it unconstitutional on two grounds – the overreach of the executive over the legislative powers of the congress and invasion of privacy. The same is applicable in India – UIDAI has been constituted on the basis of a GoI notification and there is a fundamental risk to civil liberties with the convergence of UID, NATGRID etc.


(Guest)

There's a serious medical problem also about the iris scan.It cause tumors in the eye and affects the retina severely. Iris scan has been dropped in the west and replaced by Facial recognition. In any case these smart cards seriously encroach upon privacy,libery ,fundamental rights of citizens.

SUBRAMANIAN C R (ADVOCATE)     10 March 2013

This is real invasion of privacy.  See the Data Sharing policy and Open Government platform.

Under the relevant provisions of Aadhar and UID, the date can be shared under orders of competent court.  But competent court is not defined.  An officer of the rank of Joint Secretary can decide whether to divulge or not.  Thus collecting biometric data and sharing without consent of party is illegal.  Moreover most of the companies doing the work have overseas limbs and they will be forced to divulge data.

Government saying that Aadhar is not compulsory but making it applicable to various schemes is illegal.  WP(C) 494 of 2012 is pending in Hon'ble Apex Court.  Till its disposal, such proceedings by Governments are not in good spirit. 

Why should an Indian Citizen give biometric data to Government when it can be shared by the Government without his consent..

When I sent an email to Open Government Platform seeking clarification regarding sharing of biometric data collected by state, I got an evasive reply.

Subramanian

Vicky Shah (Founder)     27 March 2013

Aadhar is not mandatory.

Regards,

Vicky Shah


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