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My previous employer not given the fnf

(Querist) 08 January 2019 This query is : Resolved 
Dear All,

I need your all valuable comment on this matter. actually recently I have resigned from my last employer and they are deducting two month Salary in lieu of short month notice pay. Notice period as per it was three month in appointment letter which is signed by me. as per employee side they can terminate to me within one notice pay. Want the job eager it was overlooked by candidate if one month notice pay from Employer than the same will be from Employee side. please suggest i am on position of Senior Account Executive can i also approach to labor court.
SHIRISH PAWAR, 7738990900 (Expert) 08 January 2019
As per your narration you are liable to pay the 2 months salary in lieu of notice period. Please consult with local prudent lawyer.
Isaac Gabriel (Expert) 09 January 2019
You can raise dispute in local civil court,but think twice whether it will be cost effective.
Santosh (Querist) 09 January 2019
Ok thanks for your valuable answer
Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019
While posting such queries employee should post basic information!
What is this establishment; Govt, private, Commercial, Industrial?
What is its nature of business say; IT, ITeS?
How many persons are employed in it?
What is your designation and nature of duties?
How many persons report to you?
Do you have any power to sanction leave/increment/appoint/terminate/appraise etc etc ?
You are in which state? Since how many months you are working? Are you under probation period or your service is confirmed in writing?

Do standing orders (model/certified) apply to establishment and your designation?
What is notice period as per appointment letter/offer letter and what was notice period tendered by you?
Was your resignation accepted and FnF statement issued to you? Did you accept the FnF statement in writing?
Did you submit written representation under proper acknowledgment and did company reply in writing?

Was ever any stinker, memo, show cause notice on any misconduct issued to you?
Does the establishment have its appraisal system? Do you have copy of signed appraisal forms, matrix, KRA’s, performance date? How was your performance?
Are you a member of employee’s/trade unions?
Has the establishment issued/supplied, offer letter, appointment letter, salary slips of all months, PF number and a/c slips of all years, ESIC card, correct FnF statement, Form 16 as per correct FnF statement (showing computation of earned wages/bonus/leave encashment/incentives/reimbursements etc etc and adjustment of notice pay and final payout by employer/employee), acknowledgment and acceptance of notice of resignation/final resignation, acknowledgment of handover of charge/assets, NOC/NDC……………etc etc , relieving letter?
You may revert to relevant points.
Name of company etc is not required so don’t post names etc .

Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019
The contract of appointment should promote equitable discretions or IT may be rendered Arbitrary.
Since you have signed the contract/appointment letter establishment/employer may prees the T&C inserted in IT. Thee mployer can waive off the notice period/pay by IT’s sweet will and discretion.
You can try approaching concerned Line Managers/HR personnel..and even good offices of appointing authority/MD/CEO/Chairman-Chairperson/Board etc and apply your skills to get such waiver and employment related docs.. as already posted above.
Employee should and can acquire such skills e.g; persuasion/persisitence/reasoning/negotiations…
Some employee’s by virtue of their proximity to good offices and position they held can succeed in getting relief from establishment, and/or by applying their skills.

The notice period of 3 months may not necessarily be applicable in your case.
As notice period/pay is part of service conditions that are governed by various enactments applicable to establishment/employer/employee. The provisions of enactments shall prevail upon any private agreement/contract drafted by employer and signed with employee e.g; offer/appointment letter, contract of employment, HR policy, service rules etc etc.
The establishment can provide superior benfits but not inferior. The T&C that are villative of applicable enactments can be rendered VOID.


Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019
There are many threads on similar query/related material that you can SEARCH thru SEARCH option in threads, Articles, Files etc e.g;
Article under my profile;
“Employee is Entitled to Interest if Payment of Salary is Delayed !”
“Prospects of relief from civil courts to Employees that are not covered as 'Workman' and by umbrella of Labor Laws”
Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019

GO thru; THE INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES ACT, 1947;
ID Act ( a Statute) otherwise does not lay down any notice period for employee and lay down notice period for employer in cases of retrenchment.. assess if you are covered by the def. of ‘Workman’ as in the Act.
Notice period is part of service conditions and governed by various enactments applicable to establishment/employer/employee.. e.g;
--Standing Orders; Model (a Statute), Certified ( Instrument of law)
GO thru Model Standing orders;13 ..if you are covered by def. of ‘Workman’ as in ID Act, and respective clause of Certified Standing Orders if the standing orders of establishment (that has employed you) are certified and yor designation is covered.
Employer should display standing orders at a conspicuous place in establishment and also circulate to employee without any cost/reasonable cost say Rs10/-). The employee can also obtain certified copy of certified standing orders from certifying Officer ( e.g; DLC) at nominal cost say rs.3/page.

- -Shops & Estbs Act of the state; which may not lay down any notice period for employee but may lay down notice period for employer as per lengrth of service of employee….. By equitable discretion the same notice period may be asked from employee by mutual understanding…. The contract of employment should promote equitable discretions or IT may be easily termed arbitrary. Or the Act may which may lay down some notice period for employee and also may lay down notice period for employer… GO thru IT if the ACT applies to establishment and you are covered by the def. of ‘Employee’ as in Shops & Estbs Act Act. And any other enactment that may apply in your case..




Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019
You may approach seasoned/employee’s trade union leaders
And Authorities/courts for relief. e.g;
Works Committee/Grievance Redressal Committee (if notified in state)

Labor Inspector/ALC/ALCC (State/Central as applicable in your case if you are covered by the def. of Workman as in ID Act)
or Labor Court/CGIT (State/Central as applicable in your case if you are covered by the def. of Workman as in ID Act)

Inspector appointed under Shops & Estbs Act ( if establishment/your dept-div is covered by the Act and you are covered by the def. of employee as in the Act)
The LOCAL Inspector at your location might also be Inspector appointed under Shops & Estbs Act,
Inspector appointed under Payment of Wages Act ( This Act does not discriminate between Workman and Non Workman) if you are covered by the def. of wages under the Act.. GO thru the Act and amendments and Payment of Wages Rules in your state..
Higher Officials of dept. of Labor

Civil courts (if you are not covered by the def. of Workman as in ID Act) and court may provide relief for breach of contract..and interest for delayed period..

NCLT
You are probably engaged on monthly rated wages. Daily wages=Monthly wages/28 Hourly wages =daily wages/8
All enactments are available on Dept. of Labor website of the state..

You can try to resolve by applying your skills and/or with help of seasoned employee’s/trade union leaders/your very able LOCAL counsels/officials of Dept. of Labor
And if nothing works then you may have to approach appropriate forum as applicable in your case.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 09 January 2019
You may take help for any matter from, elders of your family, competent and experienced well wishers, seasoned PIP’s, helpgroups, community leaders, NGO’s, experienced colleagues, associations, religious scholars/leaders, influential persons, Employee’s/Trade union leaders, help groups for spouses (Husband/wife) etc and find a very able LOCAL counsel specializing in concerned filed of law e.g; Labor/Service matters as in your case, and well versed with LOCAL applicable rules, precedence, latest judgments etc …. and worth his/her salt, can advise you after examining all case related docs, inputs, evidences on record.
Obtain proper legal opinion in writing!
Avoid acting on your own on hearsay.
One should not fall for IT’s and entities loitering at online portals to allure unsuspecting querists. There are many threads on such instances at LCI also.
Online discussions are not substitute to in person discussions with a very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity specializing in concerned field of law.
One should not fall for IT’s and entities loitering at online portals to allure unsuspecting querists……the personal details of unsuspecting querists/citizens get stored in databanks/compromised……hacked.
Not only your counsel ( if other very able counsel opine that 1st counsel’s advise was bad, misleading) many posing as Lawyers (actually Liar) have been raking up disputes at online portals including LCI on subjects like ; WILL, Nomination, Gratuity etc etc with their misleading, illegal advices and conduct..and have failed due to untiring efforts by some sincere and good natured Experts that indeed want to help and contribute at such portals. Such entities operate by forming gangs ( ikdi, dukdi, tikdi, chokdi and even more)….and attempt to deflect, divert to other members of their gangs to fleece the unsuspecting querists. Many of such entities have never been to courts and might have never won in any case and may not be able to count even on their fingertips. In the end multiple fake ID’s of such IT’s and entities get permanently blacklisted, shunted out at online portals and outside online portals and even society………and that is exactly what they deserve. Make a note of such entities and if the need be act to confine them to correctional centers; Jail, and let their cost and consequences be, heritable. Why such IT’s and entities litter nuisance at online portals: to hide their own weaknesses, and to satiate their insatiable itch and due to their infectious greed. One should stay away from such infected entities and hence away from such infection. You may post if anyone has ever asked /is asking for money from you have paid.
Such IT’s and entities keep on poping up at online portals with fake and new ID’s after their old ID’s are permanently blacklisted/shunted out and money fleeced from unsuspecting is finished.
There are such very able counsels at each location.
Check for such counsels at LOCAL; Labor Court/CGIT, CAT/School-Educational Tribunal/Civil Courts, HC, SC,..
You can also try for FREE legal Aid from Legal aid center (DLSA) that is usually within LOCAL courts complex..preferably from a very able counsel specializing in Labor/service matters.
Your counsels may opine that you can appear on 1st date, and obtain copies of petition etc to reply later ….and inform the court that you shall be engaging a counsel and appear thru your counsel….Or your counsel can appear and obtain copies of petition etc and reply later or your new counsel can appear for you.
Your counsels can advise after examining all docs/record/inputs pertaining to your matter and help you. You can also search threads on similar query in SEARCH option ON left Hand side of threads in Forum/Experts section. Having learnt a lesson, remember to consult beforehand for your matters or any matter about which you are not properly informed.
There have many instances of such entities operating with multiple fake Id’s at online portals.


The FEE of all LOCAL counsels at all LOCATIONS is not high/unreasonable as mis-believed by many.
Many counsels even at State Capital/Metro towns do not demand unreasonable high FEE.
IT is rather at online portals that unsuspecting querists are mislead as per many publications, by IT’s and Entities that pose as some Lawyer (actually LIAR) and flaunt/advertise firms that are not Law Firms (Actually LIAR’s Firms) to believe that LOCAL counsels are not knowledgeable..are incompetent.
In Reality the LOCAL counsels win cases in LOCAL courts at all LOCATIONS.
You can go thru/search the cases contested by any Lawyer at court website.
Rest; Your own very able LOCAL counsel as already advised above, can advise you in person, after examining all docs, inputs in person.
Obtain proper legal opinion in writing.
If you are confident that you are well versed with provisons of applicable rules/laws and procedures and can handle the matter on your own, go ahead.
Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 10 January 2019
Forget your one month's salary, recovery of the amount shall be less than the cost of the suit/ case instituted to recover, although you may get it.
Did you get any fruitful information / advise of lengthiest respondent ? If so, appreciate him; otherwise rebuke for useless/wastage.


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