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Left job without notice period

(Querist) 24 January 2017 This query is : Resolved 
Hi,

I worked in Accenture India for 6+ years and left my job after almost one month I submitted my resignation, but HR asked me to complete 90 days period else will initiate absconding process. Since they had initiated absconding process earlier, now they ask me to pay for 2 months notice period which is more than 2 Lacs. I would like to avoid paying this amount if possible, but in worst condition I will pay. But my main concern is that, I should get all my revealing letters, experience letters etc. without any negative remarks. Also in future if any verification comes to the company, there should not be any negative remarks maintained for me in the system of Accenture.
Please provide your precious expert advice.
ADV-JEEVAN PATIL, MUMBAI (Expert) 24 January 2017
Frankly speaking, u fight against n also have clean slate is possibly difficult but not impossible. To concentrate on yr new job settle the matter cordially.
ADV-JEEVAN PATIL, MUMBAI (Expert) 24 January 2017
Frankly speaking, u fight against n also have clean slate is possibly difficult but not impossible. To concentrate on yr new job settle the matter cordially.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 24 January 2017
Agreed with essence of the post of Mr. Jeevan Patil.


What do you mean by ‘they’; HR persons?
You have not made it absolutely clear: Did they initiate absconding procedure in your case?


If yes; how?


Did they initiate written communications, memo, show cause notice?

Did you reply to these?

Have they asked you to tender notice pay for 2 months in writing?

Did you resign with immediate effect?

Do you have copy of resignation (or notice) and its proof of dispatch, delivery?


Have you negotiated (in writing) and got positive reply (in writing) that there shall be NO adverse comments on conduct/performance/abscondment in relieving letter/BGV?
Kumar Doab (Expert) 24 January 2017
You have posted that:




“I worked in Accenture India for 6+ years and left my job after almost one month I submitted my resignation, but HR asked me to complete 90 days period else will initiate absconding process. Since they had initiated absconding process earlier, now they ask me to pay for 2 months notice period which is more than 2 Lacs. I would like to avoid paying this amount if possible, but in worst condition I will pay. But my main concern is that, I should get all my revealing letters, experience letters etc. without any negative remarks. Also in future if any verification comes to the company, there should not be any negative remarks maintained for me in the system of Accenture.
Please provide your precious expert advice. “


Kumar Doab (Expert) 24 January 2017
It is believed that it is some BPO/KPO/Call center/IT/ITeS operation. Confirm!



What was your designation and nature of duties? Did you have any powers to sanction leave/increment/appoint/terminate/appraise etc?


How many persons were reporting to you?


You were in which state?


You submitted resignation and left thereafter?


Or submitted resignation after one month of your leaving, by say: email/letter thru redg. post?


Or you sent resignation by ordinary post and a copy say; 30days: thereafter by email/letter thru redg. post?


Are you member of BPO/ITeS employees union’s/ employees union’s/trade unions?
What is stated in appointment letter/employee handbook/standing orders/service rules on ;Termination by employer and Employee and exit formalities etc?
Guest (Expert) 24 January 2017
Dear Sandy,

Examination of case related documents, including the terms & conditions included in your offer of appointment/ appointment letter is necessary to be examined before arriving at some conclusive opinion.
Guest (Expert) 24 January 2017
Beware of Kumar Doab, a fake expert (without real identity, without photo, without his location in his profile). As of his habit, he always tries cleverly to sidetracks the issues to entirely new direction with his multiple posts consisting of wrong, confusing an vague advice with totally unconcerned multiple pages of downloadable links to make the problem more complex due to which you can feel as if your problem is quite complicated. Although puts innumerable irrelevant questions to the querist, but normally he does not suggest any workable solution to a solution seeker even after his irrelevant 8-10 posts.

As of his habit, through his multiple posts, at first, he normally advises a person to contact some very able counsel and then recommends the names of some of his favourable lawyers, but not knowing much about the subject matter, probably for earning his commission through them.

Since I have cautioned you against his vague advice, now you will see, his session to abuse me would start soon.
Ms.Usha Kapoor (Expert) 25 January 2017
aGREE WITH kUMAR DEAB.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear Ms. Usha Kapoor,


Thanks for agreeing wit me.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,


We believe that you are a genuine employee and have a genuine query.


You may go thru:



http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Search-of-a-missing-company-626301.asp



And carefully note the posts:



“It may attract many posers loitering at many forums to fleece the unsuspecting querist/authors.......



So you should be ...BEWARE of abusers.

Saliva may run out of mouth.

( Mooh se paani nikkal ayega)


Take help of your near and dear ones, elders of the family, family lawyer before you choose.



You may go thru all threads posted under profile all experts..under Forum/Experts sections and make your on judgment.”
And


“Mr. Kumar doab sir,
Thanks for your caution advise. Kind of you sir”
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,



We believe that you are a genuine employee and have a genuine query.



I have prohibited Dhingra to comment on me and my posts.



We have understood why Dhingra has posted in his last post that:




“Beware of Kumar Doab, a fake expert (without real identity, without photo, without his location in his profile). As of his habit, he always tries cleverly to sidetracks the issues to entirely new direction with his multiple posts consisting of wrong, confusing an vague advice with totally unconcerned multiple pages of downloadable links to make the problem more complex due to which you can feel as if your problem is quite complicated. Although puts innumerable irrelevant questions to the querist, but normally he does not suggest any workable solution to a solution seeker even after his irrelevant 8-10 posts.

As of his habit, through his multiple posts, at first, he normally advises a person to contact some very able counsel and then recommends the names of some of his favourable lawyers, but not knowing much about the subject matter, probably for earning his commission through them.

Since I have cautioned you against his vague advice, now you will see, his session to abuse me would start soon.”
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,


He has advertised his jealousy, hatred and greed once again to allure you; the one more unsuspecting querist at LCI.



Out of sheer frustration out of an unsound mind, he has pasted the above message on my profile page also, in the dead of night yesterday; 24 January,2017.



You and anyone can check it.
You and anyone can check how many times he has visited my profile in last few days; whopping 39 times.




He must have allured some of his gang members/chamchaas/co-sharers also.




While you check it you may also go thru other messages from even experts regarding habitual provocation and abuse by this Dhingra.



You can read and store all of these and show the printouts to elders of your family, competent and experienced well wishers, employee’s/trade union leaders, your own counsel/lawyer/law firm. It is possible that many of them would already be aware of this abuser, pretender and poser.




While you carefully examine alongwith help of your own family members you will also note that his unsound mind has aggravated his disorders in last 8-10 months to infinite and incurable limits.



His condition was also bad before last 8-10 months.


He needs medical attention from a medical board that he been declining to himself for many years.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,




The shrude and crude Dhingra has been loitering and stalking authors/querist/members/experts for years at LCI.




Before you get carried away and allured by his cries you may go back and go thru threads placed under his profile.



You will find; threads littered with his abuse, attacks, coercion, intimidation, and insult to; authors/querist/members/experts.
He has been operating with two ID’s and his advertisements and declarations at both are fake.



One in this thread in Experts section and one in forum section;



He has tasted one of the corporate flavors and his ID was blocked by admin of LCI.
He advertises his membership w.e.f : 16 June 2016 which is lie and false.



You need to go back to old threads in both Forum and Experts section and see for yourself the abuse, nuisance he has been littering.



He has willfully not posted link to all those threads in which authors/querist/members/experts have posted that ; “Dhingra should not post any reply in the thread…………………….”……………..” Dhingra ; you have nothing else to do” etc etc …………………and you can read and store all of these and show the printouts to elders of your family, competent and experienced well wishers, employee’s/trade union leaders, your own counsel/lawyer/law firm. It is possible that many of them would already be aware of this abuser and poser.




In deed Dhingra has nothing else to do.
He has willfully not posted link to all those threads in which he has no more option than to write: “Agreed with Shri Kumar Doab”



He has been downloading and storing in his computers, the highly illustrated threads and attachments/provisions and rights by constitution of Republic of India/Rules/ACTs/judgments/citations etc etc……………………and allure and fleece the unsuspecting querist/authors.



We have tolerated, avoided, ignored him for long and extended our threshold limits looking at the photo of a very old man that he advertises.



He has crossed our extended threshold limits.


His list is long and drafted to pose as some; “Jackaal of All Trades”




P. S. DHINGRA: sssfi2016@gmail EMAIL AT: SSSFI2016@GMAIL
““Our Organisation, "SUPER SPECIALTY SERVICES FOUNDATION (INDIA)" provides for real practical solutions on legal, Professional, Business, & Administrative problems, including analytical examination of court judgments, pertaining to: - Banking/ Cheque Dishonour Cases - Civil Law - Family Laws, matters of Sec.498A , Dowry, Cruelty towards women, Divorce issues, etc. - Labour & Services Laws, including Charge Sheets, Departmental/ Domestic Inquiries in Government, Public Sector Undertakings, & Private Companies, Below Benchmark APAR cases, Inter-se Seniority - Legal Documents, - Property Laws - Others, like ... Due Diligence; Non-Peforming Assets (NPA); Bills Collection Efficiency; Crisis Management; Disaster Control; Investigation Processes; etc.




P. S. DHINGRA: sssfi2016@gmail Email at: sssfi2016@gmail.com - for Practical Solutions to 498a Dowry issues Divorce Property Departmental Inquiry NPA Dishonoured Cheques Corporate Laws etc.


Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,



The notice period of 90days may not be necessarily applicable in your case.


Your matter can be resolved without litigation also. many threads on similar queries have been resolved at LCI and many of them were employed in your company/trade/sector.





Post your response to all points that has been raised in this thread for you to reply regarding detail of your employment.




Your own elders of your family, competent and experienced well wishers, employee’s/trade union leaders, your own counsel/lawyer/law firm specializing in labor/service matters can guide you the best.







Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Hi Sandy,

As I told you earlier about Mr. Doab, "since I have cautioned you against his vague advice, now you will see, his session to abuse me would start soon."

So, he has started abusing me.

Further, since, I cautioned you, "As of his habit, through his multiple posts, at first, he normally advises a person to contact some very able counsel and then recommends the names of some of his favourable lawyers, but not knowing much about the subject matter, probably for earning his commission through them," as of precaution he has now refrained to advise you to contact some lawyer.

BUT IF YOU SEE HIS PREVIOUS THREADS, IN ALMOST ALL THREADS, HE ADVISED THE SOLUTIONS SEEKERS TO CONSULT A VERY ABLE COUNSEL. YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH ABOUT MY STATEMENT.

From his profile, I find how many people he has tried to dupe with his wrong/ vague advice. Since he has pointed out that I have not posted some threads, now for your information I post below some examples where he misguided the solutions seekers to the extreme of his shrewdness and tried to make the problems complicated by side-tracking the issues to quite a different directions.

FOR EXAMPLE Mr. Kumar Doab confused the authors of a problem pertaining to "wife's share to property" but loaded with his HUNDREDS OF PAGES of google searched irrelevant junk material consisting of amendment of Goa Educational Rules and an Act of succession after death of the owner, while the person was still alive. You may like to see that by opening the link: http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Wife-s-right-to-share-in-property-in-Goa--626526.asp

A question arises, when the problem did not have even a remote concern with education in Goa, for what purpose that link was provided?

ANOTHER EXAMPLE can be seen in the problem of the author concerned with “purchased property without sale deed”, but Mr. Kumar Doab gave the colour of adverse possession due to that even the experts could get misled and concentrated their advice about adverse possession of the property. The same can be seen at the link: http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Notary-land-documents-625956.asp

STILL ANOTHER EXAMPLE can be seen from the following link, where Mr. Kumar Doab tried to confuse a querist with several contradictory and vague advice when he asked a question how to tackle the problem where people are threatening the family and how to transfer the property in to their name, as those persons possess No. of cheques issued by his deceased father in lieu of some personal debts: http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/details.asp?mod_id=145740&offset=3

There are several such type of examples where he used to misguide and confuse the members with his wrong advice in order to lure them to make them diverted to some of his favourite lawyers, probably to earn some commission.

From such examples you can very well judge, what type of person Mr. Doab is.


NOW SINCE HE HAS ASSURED YOU, like "Your matter can be resolved without litigation also. many threads on similar queries have been resolved at LCI and many of them were employed in your company/trade/sector," you would be justified to ask him to render his practical help in getting sorting out your problems pertaining to your absence, notice period, experience letter etc.

Best of luck, if you can get your problems sorted out through him.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Mr. Kumar Doob,

You are welcome with expression of your irritation and frustration through your above posts.

Anyway, thanks for introducing my profile to the querist.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Mr. Kumar Doob,

You are welcome with expression of your irritation and frustration through your above posts.

Anyway, thanks for introducing my profile to the querist.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Mr. Kumar Doob,

You are welcome with expression of your irritation and frustration through your above posts.

Anyway, thanks for introducing my profile to the querist.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Mr. Kumar Doob,

You are welcome with expression of your irritation and frustration through your above posts.

Anyway, thanks for introducing my profile to the querist.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Mr. Kumar Doob,

You are welcome with expression of your irritation and frustration through your above posts.

Anyway, thanks for introducing my profile to the querist.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Sorry for more than one post for Mr. Doab due to internet problem.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dhingra,


Write any number of posts due to your problems with your own persona.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,



You may go thru:



http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Search-of-a-missing-company-626301.asp


and other threads mentioned in it.It was claimed that it is initiated from fake id, created by an expert to vindicate.


We believe that you are a genuine employee and have a genuine query.


Once you revert with your reply to all points regarding your employment, I shall revert.

Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
Hi Sandy,

Have you noticed that Mr. Kumar Doob has expressed his doubt three times about your genuineness by repeating, "We believe that you are a genuine employee and have a genuine query."

A question arises, what was the need for repeating that sentence time and again, when he himself appears with his fake ID?
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dear LCI author @ Mr. Sandy,



You may carefully go thru the posts about fake id created there and honey traps..................





So you should be ...BEWARE of abusers.

Saliva may run out of mouth.

( Mooh se paani nikkal ayega)


Take help of your near and dear ones, elders of the family, family lawyer before you choose.



You may go thru all threads posted under profile all experts..under Forum/Experts sections and make your on judgment.”
........................



I have prohibited Dhingra to comment on me and my posts.



We have understood why Dhingra has posted in his last post......................Probably your company is near to Noida/Gurgaon.




Take your lesson and Once you revert with your reply to all points regarding your employment, I shall revert.
Guest (Expert) 25 January 2017
So, Mr. Doob, when you have prohibited Dhingra, how your prohibition goes futile, while comments are being posted on each of your vague attempt to justify your false position

By the way, why you are shy in posting your real ID, photo and place of your location. Please do that at the earliest.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Another Bakwaas by ............Dangar.

and also at:


http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/i-don-t-want-serviving-notice-period-due-to-health-issues-629816.asp


http://shabdkosh.raftaar.in/Meaning-of-DANGAR-in-Hindi
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Another Bakwaas by ............Dangar.


http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Search-of-a-missing-company-626301.asp
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
DhingraXXXXXXXXXX Dangar,



Any expert, member, querist, author will be deciding about him/her at LCI, not You.
Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
DhingraXXXXXXXXXX Dangar,
Any expert, member, querist, author will be deciding about him/her at LCI, not You.



At the cost of repeating:



Your memory refreshed in many threads :



If you were born and raised with Animal (Dangar) like instincts then it was duty of your father (god bless him if he is alive) to domesticate you.



We are not your father.

Although we did our best.



Keep damp clothes by your side to clean oozing saliva (Laar) from your face and keep waving tail to move away flies (Makhi).


Kumar Doab (Expert) 25 January 2017
Dangar,


Now shut up and don't come back and leave permanently.
Guest (Expert) 26 January 2017
Mr. Dooba,

Rambha rahe ho ya raink rahe ho?
Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 January 2017
Dhnigra,

I wrote your correct name in all threads.


Now since you have attacked my good name, hence befitting reply has been given on it also.



It is loudly visible that you have got the kick.


So::



DhingraXXXXXXXXXX Dangar,


Another Bakwaas by ............Dangar.


http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Search-of-a-missing-company-626301.asp

At the cost of repeating:


Your memory refreshed in many threads :



If you were born and raised with Animal (Dangar) like instincts then it was duty of your father (god bless him if he is alive) to domesticate you.



We are not your father.

Although we did our best.



Keep damp clothes by your side to clean oozing saliva (Laar) from your face and keep waving tail to move away flies (Makhi).



Install CCTV camera's {(at you or your master's cost) in your private fiefdom (Tabela; where animal is tied to a post ( Khoonta)} with mike. Watch mosquitoes,flies, lice on your body and listen to your Dangar (animal) sounds.




If condition is bad, go and see veterinary (animal's) doctor.


Injections (although painful: Even Dangar ie. animal feels pain) or capsules may help, you from medical disorders.




Or remain satisfied with Laat, Ghoonsa, Danda, hanta ( kicks, blows, sticks, lashes) that a master gifts to its Dangar (animal).


Later is applicable in your case.


Or master may sell old, diseased, rowdy animal (Dangar)...................to Skinner.
Guest (Expert) 26 January 2017
Mr. Dooba,

You have already introduced about your animal heredity. Your instict is also visible through your posts. So, you need not repeat time and again about your heredity.

Anyhow, you may rambhao or rainko, as you like.

Anyway, wish you a sleepless night to help you invent new abuses against me during the whole night!


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