Disciplinary proceedings
Querist :
Anonymous
(Querist) 29 December 2017
This query is : Resolved
Dear Sir,
I am facing departmental enquiry for major penalty. As there were no witnesses from both sides. The IO asked general question and regular hearing was concluded. The PO submitted the brief . In reply I also submitted the defence brief. Certain copies of departmental rules, government orders and official correspondence in the form of letters etc were also quoted and copies of same were attatched with my defence brief. These documents were not listed earlier as defence documents but all the documents are from rule book and and relevant to the case. But the IO remarked that " the above referred rule cannot be treated as defence document as same was not produced by CO during regular hearing"
Kindly enlighten me whether IO's is right to deny the evidence which was from a standard rule book.
Guest
(Expert) 29 December 2017
The end result cannot be arrived at without discussion of the proceedings of the inquiry.
In fact, the whole of the process of departmental inquiry was farce right from the beginning to the end, as your description itself gives no inkling about the various stages of inquiry proceedings, including preliminary hearing to the end stage of defence case. Even you have not stated, at which stage the I.O. asked you the questions and of what nature..
P. Venu 
(Expert) 30 December 2017
Departmental (Disciplinary proceedings - under which law/rule? Where you are employed?
No disciplinary proceedings could be conducted in the fashion you have stated. Please post the complete facts.
Isaac Gabriel
(Expert) 30 December 2017
MrAnonymous, I presume that disc.action pertains to Government service, and the charges framed aiming major penalty.Neverthless, allegations would have specified about the gravity combined with facts and dereliction which would have been made available by the presenting officer and your statement against the charges to be recorded by the IO . Perhaps u would have submitted decided cases and copies.Uless the charges touched moral turpitude, major penalty would not have been suggested. Before expecting the Authority pass orders in your favour, you should convey the actual case to experts to offer opinion. You are aware exeperts usually respond to genuine doubts and queries.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 December 2017
AQ…………..so NO reply………
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 December 2017
Pls post with your ID and you can get many replies….
Guest
(Expert) 31 December 2017
Two vague posts by Mr. Kumar Doab (fake expert) when he does not know ABC of disciplinary proceedings. Apparently he made two vague posts as of merely playing a number game just to add scores to his credit.
Dr J C Vashista
(Expert) 01 January 2018
No reply. for anonymous author, sorry
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 02 January 2018
IT=@PSD
The entity at 2nd,7th post in this thread and also in other threads of same querist and from the day the query is initiated, and everyday in all threads from Day1 from all of IT’s=@PSD’s multiple fake ID’s have done NOHING else than
Littering IT’s=@PSD’s TRADEMARK TAMASHAA ( IT’s own admission) , nuisance, abuse, sarcasm, quarrels,
IT’s=@PSD’s contribution in the threads of the querist and all threads is NIL and ZERO.
Advertising picture of a sick, old entity in one of multiple fake ID’s was/is/will not be of NO impact/effect/consequence…..
The daily TRADEMARK TAMASHAA is just to earn points and claim IT as qualification at other ONLINE portals outside LCI…….while indeed this is NO qualification at LCI or any other ONLINE portals…
While IT=@PSD unsuccessfully tries to pose as Jackal of all Trades and fails DAILY………..to know that IT does not know A,B,C, upto…………..Z of all trades….
IT=@PSD will convert A,B,C, upto…………..Z into Alph, be, te, pe,…..upto last alphabet….
http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/urdu.htm
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 02 January 2018
In all threads you initiated/will initiate with your ID have been/will be provided with meaningful inputs that you my take home and leave the Trademark nuisance/sarcasm/personal attacks/daily quarrel that is littered at LCI from Day1 by chronic and habitual offenders …………………………
And go back to elders of your family/competent and experienced well wishers ……………..senior LOCAL counsels of unshakable repute and integrity specializing in such matters and having a successful track record in such matters…………
Arrange to get a senior LOCAL Defense Assistant of unshakable repute and integrity specializing in such matters and having a successful track record in such matters…………
Your OWN senior LOCAL counsel as suggested above can draw strategy for you and render a considered opinion as per facts and details of your matter and render a considered opinion to you.
Finally you may decide on what exactly you would prefer to do as per merits or NO merits…….
IT shall be futile to litigate IF there are NO favorable points at the moment …….and until merits are built..
Your OWN senior LOCAL counsel as suggested above, worth his/her salt shall update you on recourses, options and merits in each option….
Your query is rightly suggested by Shri. P.Venu, Shri. Issac Gabriel, Shri Kumar Doab, Vashsitaji………
In case you want to read material lot of IT is available and perhaps is available with you also e.g;
https://web.nlcindia.com/webcount/HandBook/CHAPTER-2.pdf
I have posed links in many threads earlier as well.
Guest
(Expert) 03 January 2018
Mr. Anonymous,
Vague query shoud not have been expected to get a real solution. If the inquiry officer adopted short cuts and conducted inquiry in an arbitrary manner, what your own defence assistant had been doing there? Why he did not raise any objection on wrong procedure having been adopted by the I.O.?
Instead of making half baked query here, you may better get your case examined by some defence specialist in departmental inquiry to still take some right course of action to set right the case.
Guest
(Expert) 03 January 2018
@ Kumar Doab fake expert)
With his two more vague and irrelevant posts, besides fulfilling his lust to play a number game Mr. Kumar Doab, a tamasha man, has given a good demonstration of his extremely disturbed unsound mind, which he should have given before some psychiatrist.
Anyway, welcome again to Mr. Kumar Doab with his extreme irritation and frustration.
