Police verification for government job
Vinod
(Querist) 29 June 2016
This query is : Resolved
Hello sir.
I have been selected in railway job as class c employe in march 2016.
I am undergoing training.
But few day back my native Police station people has called for Police verification.
I have visited the station. In course of enquiry Police people told that a closed case crpc 107 in 2009 is there in your name and sent me from Police station.
Kindly advise me this will affect my appoinment since I have not filled about this matter in previous attestation form while submitting to railway.
As my passport verification was done in 2013 with the same Police station and Police people dint said about this case crpc 107. So I have not filled in railway attestation form.
Please advice me. What I should do further and possibe solution.
Really I dont understand what is this crpc 107 means. I have not involved in any cases previous.
Waiting for your reply.
Regards
Vinod
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 30 June 2016
repeated
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Police-verification-of-Job-appoinment-in-railway--605691.asp
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
The case crpc 107 was writen as closed in the year 2009.
Kindly advice does it leads to disqualification from railway services.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
I am really worried sir
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Sir,
I have visited the Police station yesterday.
They told that verification details of crpc 107 of mine has been sent to Police commissioner office then it will be sent to magstrate office.
Police people told that they have written that crpc 107 in 2009 is closed.
I have asked the details of crpc 107 case, but No document have been maintained.
In the crpc 107 in 2009 it is written as 'SURRENDERED IN COURT AND BAILED OUT' as Police showed me in database.
Kindly advise me does it leads to disqualification from sservices.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Please reply me sir
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Depends upon the language of the verdict in sec.107 case, even if closed? That you have not mentioned so far. Discuss clearly, if you really want solution to your problem. Bailed out is not exoneration from the case. Did you execute andy bond on the order of the magistrate?
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Rajendra K Goyal
(Expert) 30 June 2016
It seems it was precautionary measure. Without details nothing can be advised. If Railway takes any action, contact lawyer expert in service matters.
Section 107 in The Code Of Criminal Procedure, 1973
107. Security for keeping the peace in other cases.
(1) When an Executive Magistrate receives information that any person is likely to commit a breach of the peace or disturb the public tranquillity or to do any wrongful act that may probably occasion a breach of the peace or disturb the public tranquillity and is of opinion that there is sufficient ground for proceeding, he may, in the manner hereinafter provided, require such person to show cause why he should not be ordered to execute a bond, 1 with or without sureties,] for keeping the peace for such period, not exceeding one year, as the Magistrate thinks fit.
(2) Proceedings under this section may be taken before any Executive Magistrate when either the place where the breach of the peace or disturbance is apprehended is within his local jurisdiction or there is within such jurisdiction a person who is likely to commit a breach of the peace or disturb the public tranquillity or to do any wrongful act as aforesaid beyond such jurisdiction.
It seems it was precautionary measure, without details nothing can be advised. If Railway takes any action, contact lawyer expert in service matters.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Hello,
Does it leads to disqualification sir.
Since I have not mentioned in the attestation form...??
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Hello,
Does it leads to disqualification sir.
Since I have not mentioned in the attestation form...??
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Kindly reply sir. I am Waiting please
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Mr. Vinod,
What is the use of repeating, "does it lead to disqualification," when you don't want to discuss complete facts of the case. If you don't prefer to discuss full facts, better wait for the outcome of the verification, you will know automatically.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Sir. Kindly reply what facts you are required to give solution. Please sir
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Kindly reply me sir
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Read my query again, that is quite clear. Discuss about the judgment in the case. Give verbatim detail of the decision here if you want to know the solution, otherwise no solution to your academic query.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Hello sir.
As I said previously, I dont about the case crpc 107 in 2009 involment. Nor I have visited the exexutive magstrate Nor been submitted any bail bond.
But Police station IT database is showing the case in my name.
I have asked the details from Police station, but they say that case is old and record is not maintained. So I am in argue with Police people that i have not involved in the case, why my name is there in the IT database, but No reply.
Police people Giving report to Police commissioner office is mentioning in the report that case crpc 107 is closed without any further Explanation.
For reference crpc 107 in 2009 is booked against some people in my native as per Police ledger record Book and there is No mention about my name.
But why name alone is mentioned in IT database, there is No reply from Police people.
I have visited the magstrate office for verification of this case two days before but No record is there.
Kindly advise me what is the consequence
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Kindly reply sir. It is sufficient information or need further any clarification
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Already replied.
Why to repeat?
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Sir
I dint get solution. As I have all the details
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Posted again at:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Railway-character-verification-attestation-form--605706.asp
and it is posted that:
" I have visited the station. In course of enquiry Police people told that a closed case crpc 107 in 2009 is there in your name and sent me from Police station.......................... I have not involved in any cases previous. "
Is the police record false?
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Police people are orally saying that this case has mistakenly might be entered in your name as there is No mention of my name in the Police ledger book and I am confident enough that I have not called for any bail summons.
But Police people mention only to Police commissioner office that case is crpc 107 is closed. They dint mention that it is mistakenly entered nor I have involved in the case. Only they written is " crpc 107 is closed in the year 2009 with reference to my name" Police people also dint mention for what it was kept in force in the report to commissioner.
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Ask in writing from the police station where report was lodged originally. If they still not reply, take the help of some local lawyer to get report from the police.
If you have not recieved any reply from the police, the experts also do not hold any right to ask the police on your behalf to provide you solution without knowing the background and the order of the magistrate.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 June 2016
As rightly advised get help of a very able counsel and get yourself cleared.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
This is my request with you sir, for my satisfication, For my Knowledge /information, are there cases where disqualification for government job is made on grounds of crpc 107 available.
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
No use of extending the thread without any cause. First satisfy the experts about the truthfulness of the problem, your satisfaction is second to that. Otherwise, I have already advised you to wait for the outcome of the police verification.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
I have already enquired about the matter in the magstrate office But No records of the case is maintained.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
I want to say that without reason I have been mentioned as guilt in front of Police commissioner office
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
I am in strong belief that you people experts will resolve my problem.... Kindly advise me
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Maska chhodo, without fact, experts would not give you false promise for solution unless you state the facts after getting information from police or court.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 30 June 2016
were you on bail?
have you reported this case in attestation form.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Agreeing with Mr Dhingra I will add that the experts of this forum are not superhuman or Jinn In Alauddin's Lamp who can solve your problem without knowing facts.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Hello Sudhir sir.
I have previous told that i have not involved in the case But case has been sent as closed without mentioning anything detail in the report to commissioner.
What else clarification you need
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Unnecessarily stretching the thread without the requisit fact!
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 June 2016
As rightly advised get help of a very able counsel and get yourself cleared.
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Kumar ji,
His problem is that he does not seem to be ready to spend a small money in hiring services of a lawyer, as his problem seems to be of merely an academic nature, not a real problem.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 30 June 2016
Shri P.S.Dhingra,
Sir,
My hunch is that the author wants to contemplate on ' But case has been sent as closed without mentioning anything detail in the report to commissioner. '
He probably dos not understand the nuances involved and that the fee paid by him shall be worth it.
Guest
(Expert) 30 June 2016
He needs to make his own efforts.
Vinod
(Querist) 30 June 2016
Sir, I have not paid any fees
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 30 June 2016
when you are not listening to experts here it is better to get paid services of any lawyer.
Vinod
(Querist) 01 July 2016
Ok sir, I want to say that I have not paid any penalty or fine
Guest
(Expert) 01 July 2016
You may say whatever you like, as an after thought, that would not fetch any answer to your academic question.
You have been advised appropriately to hire services of some local lawyer to get the facts on the judgment of the case. But still you are adament to unnecessarily continue with your thread. By doing so, you are doing nothing, except wasting yours as well as others time.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 01 July 2016
Now stop posting.
Get paid services of a lawyer.
Vinod
(Querist) 01 July 2016
Why are saying to stop posting . I think you dont have solutions. And also not upto mark of experts . change yourself as learling club rather than experts . Otherwise find solutions to me deeply.
Vinod
(Querist) 01 July 2016
Why are saying to stop posting . I think you dont have solutions. And also not upto mark of experts . change yourself as learling club rather than experts . Otherwise find solutions to me deeply.
Guest
(Expert) 01 July 2016
Mr. Vinod,
Quite simple, you don't have problem, the others don't have any solution a non-existing problem. Had you any problem, you would definitely have run from pillar to post to extract information about the judgment recorded in the case.
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 01 July 2016
@ Author @ Vinod,
We are exhausted.
It solution has has repeatedly been pointed out to you.
Vinod
(Querist) 01 July 2016
Sir, I have already said it is false record.
So how to remove the false record from the Police IT database.....
Guest
(Expert) 01 July 2016
False or true that only judgment can say, not you, which you don' want to produce.
Vinod
(Querist) 01 July 2016
I am not involved in the case..... Then what is the truth to produce documents
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 02 July 2016
some persons have problems.
some do not have they have to imagine.
Guest
(Expert) 02 July 2016
When you admit you were not involved, where is the problem for which you want solution? When there is no problem, I wonder what is the craze to unduly extend the thread?
Kumar Doab
(Expert) 02 July 2016
If you are not involved then engage a very able local counsel and get your self cleared from the case.
Vinod
(Querist) 03 July 2016
What is the procedure to get remove the false crpc 107 against me in the IT database. Kindly explain me. I think this will solve my problem
Vinod
(Querist) 03 September 2016
Hello sir,
Good afternoon everbody.
As discussion of my case crpc 107 with you all people is pending from last few Month. I want to give Now precise details to you what happend in mean time.
An enquiry about crpc 107 has been sent from railway personal branch to district magstrate.
District magstrate has asked both Police station and Taluk magstrate to report about this matter.
Taluk magstrate has reported to district magstrate that there is No entry of my case in all his official records, but the case can be considered completed since the case is passed more than 6months(7years).
Police station people has reported to district magstrate that my name is present in the FIR and enclosed the Taluk magstrate report.
Now Total conclusion is that the case was intaiated by police station but but handled or recived by Taluk magstrate.
Kindly advise me what will be the consequence Now. Will there will be problem for me...???
Vinod
(Querist) 03 September 2016
Hello sir, Good afternoon everbody. As discussion of my case crpc 107 with you all people is pending from last few Month. I want to give Now precise details to you what happend in mean time. An enquiry about crpc 107 has been sent from railway personal branch to district magstrate. District magstrate has asked both Police station and Taluk magstrate to report about this matter. Taluk magstrate has reported to district magstrate that there is No entry of my case in all his official records, but the case can be considered completed since the case is passed more than 6months(7years). Police station people has reported to district magstrate that my name is present in the FIR and enclosed the Taluk magstrate report. Now Total conclusion is that the case was intaiated by police station but not handled or recived by Taluk magstrate. Kindly advise me what will be the consequence Now. Will there will be problem for me...???
Vinod
(Querist) 03 September 2016
Hello sir,
Good afternoon everbody.
As discussion of my case crpc 107 with you all people is pending from last few Month. I want to give Now precise details to you what happend in mean time.
An enquiry about crpc 107 has been sent from railway personal branch to district magstrate.
District magstrate has asked both Police station and Taluk magstrate to report about this matter.
Taluk magstrate has reported to district magstrate that there is No entry of my case in all his official records, but the case can be considered completed since the case is passed more than 6months(7years).
Police station people has reported to district magstrate that my name is present in the FIR and enclosed the Taluk magstrate report.
Now Total conclusion is that the case was intaiated by police station but but handled or recived by Taluk magstrate.
Kindly advise me what will be the consequence Now. Will there will be problem for me...???
Vinod
(Querist) 03 September 2016
Kindly reply me
Vinod
(Querist) 04 September 2016
Please reply
Vinod
(Querist) 06 September 2016
Reply sir.............
Guest
(Expert) 06 September 2016
Mr. Vinod,
So, up till now you had been playing your tricks with the members of this forum with different statements!
In your original query, you stated, "I dont understand what is this crpc 107 means."
But you also stated, "I have visited the station. In course of enquiry Police people told that a closed case crpc 107 in 2009 is there in your name and sent me from Police station."
A question arises, when you visited police station was there any specific reason for not asking why they booked you u/s 107 CrPC?
Now you have come forward with another story, which is fine details of inside stories of the railway personnel branch, police, district magistrate, taluk magistrate, etc.
Now you have also stated, "An enquiry about crpc 107 has been sent from railway personal branch to district magstrate."
The question arises, how the railway personal branch could come to know about a case u/ 107, when you stated that you did not report through the attestation form.
Moreover, with what specific interest the railway personnel branch has sent the case of crpc 107 to the district magistrate, when they are supposed to act upon only on the report on police verification for the purpopse of recruitment.
In nutshell, in my views, your story still makes no sense.
You have asked, "Kindly advise me what will be the consequence Now. Will there will be problem for me...???" The question arises, how anyone can predict, what can be the decision of the railways in your case. You may apply probability is 50:50, as can be or can also not be in you favour.
Vinod
(Querist) 06 September 2016
Brance. And district manager I have not said... U people dont have capability to handle my case..
Guest
(Expert) 06 September 2016
OK, you are free to take help of some most competent lawyer of India, if he can solve your hypothetical problem without full facts of the case.
Your description of status of job, as "class c employee" and "I am undergoing training," in themselves are the examples of hypothetical query. I wonder, how you were sent for training without police verification, which is the very first formality before making an appointment in any Government department.
Guest
(Expert) 06 September 2016
OK, you are free to take help of some most competent lawyer of India, if he can solve your hypothetical problem without full facts of the case.
Your description of status of job, as "class c employee" and "I am undergoing training," in themselves are the examples of hypothetical query. I wonder, how you were sent for training without police verification, which is the very first formality before making an appointment in any Government department.
Vinod
(Querist) 08 September 2016
Thank you for hypothetical answers.. For hypothetical lawyers and hypothetical experts forum... Kindly change your profile name as just learnining lawers
Vinod
(Querist) 08 September 2016
Mr. Dingra Kindly tell me how much your qualified
Vinod
(Querist) 11 September 2016
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