About pension for an unmarried daughter
Querist :
Anonymous
(Querist) 13 December 2017
This query is : Resolved
I am an unmarried daughter of class 1 officer who was drawing pension till about 2000...when he died...want to know if I am an unmarried and only daughter...what all documents do I need to get to get his pension..secondly if succession certificate is needed where can one get that in Delhi...and since his pension was getting deposited in Allahabad treasury how should I go about it to get it...and will I get it now that I am applying after 17 yrs...I did not know a daughter can get a pension...also will I get the arrears...
kavksatyanarayana
(Expert) 13 December 2017
Are your mother alive? If she alives you cannot get pension. And if you are un-married and no income for livelyhood and dependant to pensioner/employee, you have to apply to the officer concered by enclosing papers that 1) legal heir certificate (2) your marital status and (3) un-employment status ( affidavit by a Notary)
Querist :
Anonymous
(Querist) 13 December 2017
no my mother is not alive and I have no.job ...can I get the arrears also.
R.Ramachandran
(Expert) 14 December 2017
You are entitled for the family pension. Approach the department from where your father retired.
Querist :
Anonymous
(Querist) 14 December 2017
he rwtired from Archeological survey..so should I contact there or the Allahabad treasury where the pension is deposited
Guest
(Expert) 14 December 2017
Your story does not seem to be convincing when you have become alive for pension after a long period of 17 years of death of your father as also a major part of vital information is missing in your description, as if you don't want to reveal the exact position of the case.
Can you clarify the following points:
1) This is not an issue to be kept secret on account of any reason. So, why you tried to remain anonymous while asking your query on pension?
2) Whether your mother was alive at the time of death of your father?
3) How many brothers and sisters were you and of what age art the time of death of your father and mother respectively?
4) What is your age now?
5) Is there any specific reason that you are still unmarried?
6) What is your source of income and livelihood after the death of your father?
7) If your mother was alive at the time of death of your father, had she been getting family pension after the death of your father? If so, in which year your mother died?
8) If your mother dies after your father, after the death of your mother, who used to draw family pension and till which period/ year?
9) If your mother was not alive at the time of death of your father, after the death of your father, who had been drawing family pension for the last 17 years, ever since the year 2000?
10) Was there any specific reason that you had been keeping silent on the issue of family pension for you for the last 17 years and what made you wake up after 17 years of the death of your father to claim family pension for you?
Querist :
Anonymous
(Querist) 14 December 2017
Well thanks for answering
Answering your questions
1.I don't think writing my name of the public forum really helps anybody...I need an ans for a cause I have raised and not personal sympathy
Secondly, my mother was not alive when he passed away
3.I have no other siblings am the only child
4.My age is 46 now
5.I am highly diabetic and am unable to work and so unemployed as off now and hence need money for my survival
6.The only source of Income I had after my father death was his savings and small jobs that I did at times
Nobody ever took any family pension all these yrs because I did not know I was eligible.I happened to come across this article yesterday and this forum so I reached out for help
Sometimes we are not aware of such provisions...hence the delay...no other reason...and also now I am struggling to make ends meet.
Please let me know if someone can help...and if this option can still be exercised
Guest
(Expert) 14 December 2017
It is not that anybody who is going to get any help by knowing your ID or would be benefited from your identity, but it is only you who wanted to take some help. But by keeping yourself as anonymous, you have tended to make your own position doubtful about your being the real beneficiary for the family pension. Moreover, it has already been pointed out that this matter cannot be such an issue, the reply of which could have harmed your interest had you come forward with your real ID.
Keeping anonymous gives a clear doubt as if the problem is of hypothetical nature merely of an academic interest. Please don't mind, although you have replied very aptly, seemingly well prepared for the questions, but I am still in doubt about your description.
A pertinent question arises, when a Class-I Officer dies, it cannot be said that he did not have any sympthiser of family out of his official contacts, more particulars when he had a lonely daughter who was still unmarried at the time of his death. Rather, a hapless daughter of Class-I Officer would have readily deserved voluntary help by the pension sanctioning staff after the death of her father to make timely arrangement for the source of her livelyhood.
So, on several counts, I have some reservation in believing the version to be true, as if not merely an academic query.
Further, it is not understood, with what specific reason you have avoided to answer the question pertaining to your being unmarried till now.
Anyway, there are a lot of ifs and buts like conditions to be fulfilled for your becoming eligible for family pension, even if your version is true.
TO BE VERY FRANK, although two experts have given you some hope, YOU STILL HAVE TO STATE THE REAL FACTS IN FULL AND TO SEEK HELP OF A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE EXPERT IN PENSION MATTERS, IF YOU ARE REALLY A BENEFICIARY, SO THAT YOU MAY MAKE SOME HEADWAY TO THE EXTENT THE RULES PERMIT. But it is certain that even in spite of your hardest toil for years together, you may not be able to get pension from the year 2000.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 22 December 2017
agreed with Mr Dhingra.
I would just add if your name is there in the PPO.
R.Ramachandran
(Expert) 22 December 2017
You have to approach the office of Archeological Survey from where your father retired. They have to examine your case based on documents that would be presented by you, and then if satisfied would issue necessary Pension Payment Order sanctioning the pension in your favour. Only then the Treasury office would come into picture. Therefore approach the Archeological Survey office concerned.
